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September 25, 2010 9:03:46 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: This Week

Budget Range: up to $1800

System Usage from Most to Least Important: General Usage, Video Editing, Gaming

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, speakers, OS

Country of Origin: US

Overclocking: Maybe

SLI or Crossfire: Maybe

This is my build so for but i cannot decide the ssd , graphic card, motherboard and case
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Processor: $199 Core i7-930 Processor Boxed (MicroCenter)

Case: $119.95 Antec Nine Hundred Two Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case (Newegg)

Memory: $169.99 CORSAIR XMS 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory Model CMX6GX3M3A2000C9 (Newegg)


Motherboard: $199.99 GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard (Newegg)

Power Supply: $109.99 CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply (Newegg)

Video Card: $329.99 MSI N470GTX-M2D12-B GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card (Newegg)

SSD: (For Boot) $259.99 Crucial RealSSD C300 CTFDDAC128MAG-1G1 2.5" 128GB SATA III MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD) (Newegg)

SATA HD: (For Storage) $109.99 Western Digital Caviar Black WD1501FASS 1.5TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive (Newegg)

DVD RW: $18.99 ASUS Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM (Newegg)

Total : $1498


Which Graphic Card ?
gigabyte super o.c seems to have best clock ratings

MSI GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) N470GTX-M2D12-B Video Card - 299 $
EVGA GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 012-P3-1470-AR Video Card - 314 $
ZOTAC AMP! GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) ZT-40202-10P Video Card - 349$
GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) - 349$

Comparison Link : MSI GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) N470GTX-M2D12-B | EVGA GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 012-P3-1470-AR | ZOTAC AMP! GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) ZT-40202-10P | GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) GV-N470SO-13I

Which Mother Board ?

which one i should choose?

Comparison Link : GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R | ASUS P6X58D-E | ASUS P6T | EVGA 132-BL-E758-A1 | ASUS P6X58D

Which SSD ?

Which ssd is better ? or buying two 60 gb ssd and make them raid 0? its like same price?

Comparison Link : Mushkin Enhanced Callisto Deluxe | Crucial RealSSD C300 | Corsair Force CSSD-F120GB2-BRKT 2.5" | OCZ Vertex Turbo OCZSSD2-1VTXT120G | Corsair P128 CMFSSD-128GBG2D

Which Case?
I dont like big fancy cases, i like simple designed, quiet and good cooling ability cases.

Comparison Link : Thermaltake V9 | Antec Nine Hundred | LIAN LI Lancool PC-K62 | COOLER MASTER HAF 932 | Corsair Graphite Series 600T

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September 26, 2010 1:29:00 AM


This memory is a bad value. You will rarely benefit from running DDR3 at frequencies higher than DDR3 1600. You won't even be able to do it without overclocking. The latency of the memory is just as important for performance. DDR3 1600 CL7 is similar in performance to DDR3 2000 CL9. This article covers the subject in depth:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2792

Consider these cheaper memory kits with lower latencies and similar performance:

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 Desktop Memory (Mushkin is a top shelf brand)
$135
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB (3 x 2GB) DDR3 1600 CL7 Desktop Memory (Slightly better 7-8-7-20 timings)
$140
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


An 850W power supply would be a better choice if you want to add a second GTX 470 later.

XFX Black Edition 850W 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Power Supply
$156
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-850HX 850W 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Power Supply
$149 with promo code psu168 after a $10 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

You could make due with a 650W or even lower output power supply if you don't want to add a second GTX 470 later.

CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W 80 PLUS Certified Power Supply
$53 with promo code sept10 after a $30 rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

XFX 650W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular Power Supply
$72
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

felisportus said:
Which Mother Board ?

which one i should choose?

Comparison Link : GIGABYTE GA-X58A-UD3R | ASUS P6X58D-E | ASUS P6T | EVGA 132-BL-E758-A1 | ASUS P6X58D

All of those motherboards are very similar. I like the value of the UD3R.

felisportus said:
Which SSD ?

At 128GB or 256GB the Crucial C300s offer the best performance and value.

felisportus said:
Which ssd is better ? or buying two 60 gb ssd and make them raid 0? its like same price?

Setting up SSDs in RAID is not a very good idea. Higher capacity SSDs generally perform better than lower capacity ones (especially the Crucial C300s). There have also been reports of frequent data corruption issues with SSDs in RAID. Sandforce SSDs in particular should not be set up in RAID.

felisportus said:
Which Case?
I dont like big fancy cases, i like simple designed, quiet and good cooling ability cases.

All of those are decent cases. I prefer the all aluminum Lian Li cases because of their lighter weight and better build quality:

LIAN LI PC-7FN Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
$110
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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September 26, 2010 6:00:04 PM

Best answer selected by felisportus.
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September 26, 2010 6:18:18 PM

Thanks for the answer wielander.
I have a last question and than i am ready for the order the parts. what do you think about those video card whats the best video card nowadays for the price/performance.

gigabyte super o.c seems to have best clock ratings on those cards

MSI GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) N470GTX-M2D12-B Video Card - 299 $
EVGA GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 012-P3-1470-AR Video Card - 314 $
ZOTAC AMP! GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) ZT-40202-10P Video Card - 349$
GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) - 349$

Comparison Link : MSI GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) N470GTX-M2D12-B | EVGA GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 012-P3-1470-AR | ZOTAC AMP! GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) ZT-40202-10P | GIGABYTE Super Overclock Series GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) GV-N470SO-13I


and this is going to be my first build at home, do i need any tools or extra supplements to finish building other than thermal compound for cpu like this :
Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM
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September 26, 2010 6:35:24 PM

Gigabyte 470 OC Review http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-reviews/36477-gigabyte-geforce-gtx-470-super-overclock-review.html

Zotac - Cannot find a qualified reviewer.

EVGA - Stock, not OC'd, known for decent customer service.

MSI - Stock, not OC'd.

Given those choices, the I'd buy the EVGA unless the review of the Gigabyte card's performance was worth the $30-$50 to you. There's enough detail in that review for you to make that judgement. Don't forget the "cooler and quieter" - when talking Fermi that's useful to say the least.

No really special tools are required, but having both long and short/thin screwdrivers is often helpful, Philips head and standard. Sometimes a magnetic p-head is useful for one or two motherboard screws, depending on the build, usually the top screws nearest the cpu. You might also find pliers useful for tightening the standoffs to the mobo tray if not tool is provided with the mobo, but do not overtighten.

Best advice I can offer is go slow and enjoy the build! Don't try to do two things at once, and don't be reluctant to dis-assemble if it will help (eg) get a motherboard screw in without gouging the mobo with a slipped screwdriver.
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