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ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 or ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3??

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August 19, 2011 11:50:11 PM

Please help me decide which motherboard to buy:

Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3
(http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Fatal1ty%20...)

or

Z68 Extreme7 Gen3
(http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Extre...)

Both Really looks nice but which one is best for gaming?
Please give reasons.

Thank you.

Marius Geldenhuys
August 20, 2011 12:08:28 AM

I don't think the Extreme7 is even out yet so good luck getting opinions on it.
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August 20, 2011 12:18:31 AM

It appears you are in the same boat as me... The z68 pro gen3 looks nice ... but if theres an extreme addition version i havn't seen that.

I have read that z68 mobos have existing gpu's on there... I'm worried about conflicts between a gtx 590 3g and the onboard gpu. P67 mobo's maybe the go.

But then the question is... is it worth getting a z68 over a p67? Im just buying a 3g gtx 590 with no intention of sli... i7-2600k processor not planning to OC it for now but left the option open incase i want to learn more about that field.
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August 20, 2011 12:33:33 AM

Well both of them are future proof and both can run sandy bridge and ivy bridge and the onboard GPU shouldn't goes any troubles. (I hope)
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August 20, 2011 12:39:16 AM

i7-2600K $319

Sata Blu-Ray Writer Pioneer $122

AsRock Z68-Pro. Gen3 $209

Kingston SV100S2 128G $200
Seagate SATA3 1T $59

3G GTX590 asus $929

8G (4Gx2) 2133 G.Skill Ripjaws-X / Patriot Viper-Xtreme Div.2 $102

Antec 900 Nine-Hundred Gaming Tower without PSU $117

Corsair TX-750 ATX Power Supply Unit $144

Noctra NH-D14 $90

3m V1.3c HDMI-HDMI M-M Cable Ritmo $24

undecided on 120mhz monitor or 3d tv

this is my future build im planning at :)  roughly $2100 without monitor which will probably cost me another 600-800 ez...

Can you see anything that could be changed for the better?
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August 20, 2011 6:08:00 AM

Get a bigger power supply atleast W1000 for when you want to go sli you won't have a power issue.
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August 20, 2011 6:33:38 AM

it'll cost more to run monthly energy wise though
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August 20, 2011 10:41:27 PM

I would go with the Z68 Fatal1ty Pro Board (I did). The Fatal1ty Pro has more features that I need, so for me it's the better board and it's $40-$50 less. I like having some old tech on board (floppy port and IDE port). And the Fatal1ty board has 2 PCI slots. The Extreme7 only has 1 PCI slot. That's a deal killer for me right there. I really don't think you could go wrong with either board, though, as long as you know you will not need more than the 1 PCI slot for the life of the Extreme7.
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August 20, 2011 10:47:45 PM

sweet i thought i was missing out on something because my shop doesn't sell the extreme. Good to know theres an IDE so i can keep my old HD and transfer over to the new drives :) ...

roscolo is there plenty of room to possibly sli in the future with the pro board? it says its got quad sli capability which is 4 cards... I'm still deciding on graphics card to be honest atm

I was going to get the gtx 590 but it seems it doesnt rate as good as other cards like the 4990 etc.

My choice was going to based if i was going to sli... pick the 590 and then when its time to upgrade in the future just add another 1 or 2 :)  and theres my future proof.

If i decided to just get 1 card on its own i was going to get the 4gig 6990 i want overkill so i dont need to worry about having to buy a computer for a few yrs and enjoy max settings for quite a long time
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August 20, 2011 10:48:34 PM

4990 is a typo for 6990 :)  oops sorry
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August 20, 2011 11:09:35 PM

Hey, I don't have much interest in or knowledge of SLI or Crossfire, but quad sli does not necessarily mean 4 cards. Go to Asrock's website and download the manual:

http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Fatal1ty%20...

In my printed manual the section is 2.1, page 21. "For Quad SLI technology, you should have two identical Quad SLI -ready graphics cards that are NVIDIA certified."

Specs for the slots:
- 2 x PCI Express 3.0 x16 slots (PCIE2/PCIE4: single at x16 (PCIE2) / x8 (PCIE4) or dual at x8/x8 mode)
- 1 x PCI Express 2.0 x16 slot (PCIE5: x4 mode)
- 2 x PCI Express 2.0 x1 slots
- 2 x PCI slots
- Supports AMD Quad CrossFireX™ , 3-Way CrossFireX™ and CrossFireX™
- Supports NVIDIA® Quad SLI™ and SLI™

Sorry I cannot be of more help, but I'm sure someone with more / better knowledge will chime in.
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August 20, 2011 11:17:50 PM

Othrys said:
i7-2600K $319


Antec 900 Nine-Hundred Gaming Tower without PSU $117


Can you see anything that could be changed for the better?

Not sure if money is an issue for you, but if you wanna save 100$, i'd go with the i5 2500k. They do pretty much exactly on gaming benchmarks, the only reason why anyone should go with the 2600k is if they are doing video rendering or any sort of heavy multi-tasking.

Don't get the Antec 900 btw, the cable management is a NIGHTMARE. I've had that case with my old build. Check out the NZXT Phantom, Corsair 600t Carbide 400r/500r, Cooler Master Haf X or 912, Corsair 650D or Silverstone cases, much much muchhh better options for the money.
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August 20, 2011 11:18:49 PM

must be those cards which claim to be doubled up in 1 ... 2 of those would make quad

i feel more money on an uber single gpu is the go and 1 card means less probs... future blue screens means with sli one more thing i need to pull out to eliminate issues
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August 20, 2011 11:20:40 PM

i7-2600K $319

Sata Blu-Ray Writer Pioneer $122

AsRock Z68-Pro. Gen3 $209

Kingston SV100S2 128G $200
Seagate SATA3 1T $59

4G 6990 HIS $739

8G (4Gx2) 2133 G.Skill Ripjaws-X / Patriot Viper-Xtreme Div.2 $102

Coolermaster RC-932-KKN1 HAF 932 $147

Corsair TX-750 ATX Power Supply Unit $144

Noctra NH-D14 $90

3m V1.3c HDMI-HDMI M-M Cable Ritmo $24

Arctic Silver 5 3.5gram $9

updated list ... i went haf932 yesterday, every1 loves the haf ... couldnt ignore
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August 21, 2011 4:05:23 AM

Looks good to me. You don't need the Arctic Silver. The Intel preinstalled compound is better:

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Intel-Stock-Ther...

I went with the Azza Hurrican 2000 full tower case.

If you can get the z68 Fatal1ty Pro board for $209, jump on it. That's a remarkable deal. Running $250 on Newegg right now.
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August 21, 2011 4:40:57 AM

Yeah as i'm determining the best components to get a narrowing down the build... i will still need to save up and get my tax return and get some more poker wins under the belt.

Another thing to i have in mind is when does the next wave of upgrades come? Perhaps that'll drop everything down in price say if the 2700 comes out etc.

I'll also need to find someone to build it for me ... the only things i'm not confident with though is installing a motherboard into a case and never tried inserting a chip in a motherboard... ive put a cooler on and all those cards/ram etc though

Good to know that it should have an onboard soundcard which will b good enough for my z5500 speakers logitech.
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August 21, 2011 5:01:09 AM

Build it yourself. You can do it. Not that big of a deal. Folks here are always willing to help.
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August 21, 2011 5:12:08 AM

Yeah your right... i just need the patience to sit down and see demonstrations though probably figure out how just by looking at it... Will need to do it during the afternoon while my 2 and a half yr old is asleep hah..

Yeah i'll start looking at demonstrations and get familiar with it.. thanks for the booster :)  it saves doing it yourself and its really not that hard im sure.

The only tricky part which i am covering now on forums i guess is compatibility and making sure i don't miss out on anything... Seems its important to evenly spread the compound on the cpu as well
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August 21, 2011 7:04:19 AM

Too little is better than too much.
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August 21, 2011 7:18:04 AM

No worries thanks sir ... can't wait now im just drooling watching over the reviews of my 932 case and motherboard etc...

Im going to cut out the noctua and keep the hyper 212+ just to drop the $60 and go the 2500k for a 100$ less..

$1600 to save up now... i have around 410 now and i'll find out how much money from tax i'll get which could be anything between 600-2500 :)  i'll be upset if under 1000 tho.
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August 21, 2011 8:49:09 AM

Thanks for all the replies people but I think I'm just going to wait for z77 motherboard and Ivy Bridge Intel CPU's
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August 21, 2011 11:02:17 AM

thanks aznguy ... i am going to go with the i5-2500k and clock it to like 4.2ghz like i would've the i7-2600k anyways so 100 dollars off the overall price is good.

And thanks for the warning on the 900 i have seen it a few times and it does look rather messy.. the haf 932 which i have decided to go towards hides cables behind and even if i wanted to go one step further i can use ties to keep it away to stop any cables blocking the airflow... its really an impressive case i can't wait til i buy the case :) 

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August 23, 2011 1:15:51 AM

Between the two: ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 and ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3

The main differences are on PCIE lane width and number of PCIE Gen3 slot

ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3 has a single Gen3 PCIE but with nVidia nf200 chip therefore it supports
single video card at x16 (Gen2 speed with Sandy Bridge or Gen3 speed with Ivy Bridge plus 3.0 video card)
dual video cards at x16, x16 (Gen2 speed only)
triple video cards at x16,x8,x8 (Gen2 speed only)

vs

ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3 has two Gen3 PCIE but without nVidia nf200 therefore it supports
single video card at x16 (Gen2 speed with Sandy Bridge or Gen3 speed with Ivy Bridge plus 3.0 video card)
dual video cards at x8, x8 (Gen2 speed with Sandy Bridge or Gen3 speed with Ivy Bridge plus 3.0 video card)
triple video cards at x8,x8,x4 (Gen2 speed only and the 3rd card at x4 is useless)

If you plan to use triple SLI or Crossfire now, go with ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3, but it is less future proof
since it has only one PCIE Gen3 slot, you won't be able to achieve SLI or Crossfire in Gen3 speed even with Ivy Bridge.

If you plan to use only dual video card (SLI or Crossfire), go with ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3. In
the future, you could upgrade with Ivy Bridge and run dual 3.0 video cards at Gen3 speed. But triple SLI or Crossfire
is useless since the 3rd PCIE slot is only at x4.

So it all depends on how many video cards you plan to use on these boards.

http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1232/pg1/asrock-z...

This review shows that the ASRock Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3 run fine with two gtx590. I think it is also same
for ASRock Z68 Extreme7 Gen3. I doubt a lot of people plan to use two gtx590 or two hd6990 ...
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August 23, 2011 4:46:42 AM

Othrys said:
Yeah your right... i just need the patience to sit down and see demonstrations though probably figure out how just by looking at it... Will need to do it during the afternoon while my 2 and a half yr old is asleep hah..

Yeah i'll start looking at demonstrations and get familiar with it.. thanks for the booster :)  it saves doing it yourself and its really not that hard im sure.

The only tricky part which i am covering now on forums i guess is compatibility and making sure i don't miss out on anything... Seems its important to evenly spread the compound on the cpu as well


All you need to do is watch two videos:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_56kyib-Ls&feature=relm...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RxaVBsXEiok&feature=relm...
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August 23, 2011 7:19:58 AM

Well at this stage i'm pretty set using 2 x 6950 crossfire... seems to be the sweetspot now but at 8 x 8 on the pro which is the board i was going to go with ... perhaps i'm better just going the extreme...

i wont be looking to upgrade until prolly 2 more generations of boards n cpu's have come out and i'll spend another 1500-2000 then :) ... i just wanted to try and last for the next 4-5 yrs without having to upgrade anything
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August 23, 2011 7:43:17 AM

come on thanks for your sharing
i wont be looking to upgrade until prolly 2 more generations of boards n cpu's have come out and i'll spend another 1500-2000 then :) ... i just wanted to try and last for the next 4-5 yrs without having to upgrade anything
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August 23, 2011 9:03:14 AM

ohhh i think i just learnt something, call me a noob haha ... radeon ati if i want to crossfire i will need amd motherboard and cpu.

sli i will need intel chipset....

i know single cards it won't matter so much but if i want to sli or crossfire i have to stick to each other...

ouch almost a big boo boo
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August 23, 2011 9:21:07 AM

Do radeon cards or crossfire have problem running on windows 64 bit?
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August 23, 2011 12:05:01 PM

madox750 said:
Please help me decide which motherboard to buy:

Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3
(http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Fatal1ty%20...)

or

Z68 Extreme7 Gen3
(http://www.asrock.com/mb/overview.asp?Model=Z68%20Extre...)

Both Really looks nice but which one is best for gaming?
Please give reasons.

Thank you.

Marius Geldenhuys



i have put down some cash on a fatal1ty z68 pro $315 for my reasons are :

1 i had to update my gcard and forked out for 6950 2gb for obvious reasons GAMING which took a chunk out of the budget @265$

2 i decided to go intel this time as amd well might be an equal and thankyou amd for the competition ;)  but this board is designed for the ivy cpu which is pcie3 goods and match the board along side switchable video processing from discrete without reboot as well as ssd sata3 hdd raid os ocz agility3 60gig is fine

3 the extreme7 gen3 is a good board but not for gaming like the fatal1ty z68 is ie mouse port overclocking ,
the only thing that the fata1ty z68 doesn't has is 16x16 pcie3 xfire sli which i think will be the pinacle of his boards if it is produced along side the z68f options like xfast usb etc and app charge i like two

but when you do match up mgu it will be like 16x16 pcie2 i have read quote? and pcie speeds don't get fully utilised anyways quote? i guess its to allow for the gpu progression like flex and 3d with mgu ? so if your thinking like me and preying for intel and nvidia and amdati to sober up so when can join the party go for it

the only thing i would research is ,does the nf200 chip (true sli/xfire16x16) on the ex7gen3 board have the pcie3 option aswell as this is really the difference between the z68f

for the extra 100buks i'd save it for a all in 1 water cooling block as at ivy speeds you'll need it esp when their unlocked and quad cored

and the really cool thing i like is the z68f has sound adjustments so when the mov is playing on the 40 inch i can pump up the headset vols ,my quote?
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August 23, 2011 6:15:22 PM

raytang said:
nf200 chip on the extreme7 board is limited to gen2 speed, not gen3.

Actually SLI x8 using native Intel CPU is a little faster than SLI x16 using nf200.
Take a look at this comparison:

http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4147/nvidia_nf200_x16...


That is completely not the conclusion reached in that article

"When it all comes down to it, there's little difference between the two setups." is a exact quote from that article
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August 23, 2011 6:52:19 PM

At least from that article, we know HD6990 / HD6970 SLI in x8 using Intel vs x16 using nf200 give almost no difference in performance. The difference is so small that you can't tell in gaming.
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August 23, 2011 10:03:56 PM

so there it is and i have purchased the right board z68fatal1ty is the better buy
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August 23, 2011 10:29:50 PM

my coming soon to a gaming server near you rig is

Thermaltake Chaser MK1 case $175
Antec 900 high current gamer psu $156
Asrock Fatal1ty z68 pro GEN3 $315
G SKILL ripjaws @2133 2x4g $100
Sapphire 6950 2g cayman $265
OCZ Agility3 Sata3 60g $128
Western Digital Black Caviar Sata3 2tb $156

Undecided in the cpu as the i5 2500k is nice but will be replaced asap so i don't want to waste money but a quad core i5 will be dropped just finding the cheapest one but if they drop below the $200 dollar mark the fish might just take the bait as its the last part i will be getting as i'm building this on a fortnightly basis

rest of the rig is

AOC 1080p 24"
Plantronics Gamecon headseet
Razor Lycosa
Gigabyte M8000X mice which is really nice due to the up and down dpi Ladder SWitch

which is keeping me happy

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August 24, 2011 6:32:37 AM

So after all that it doesn't really matter pro or extreme... if i've decided to go 6950 crossfire... will the intel motherboard make any difference at all or stop me... is it universal yet?
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August 24, 2011 7:01:40 AM

I will go for Fatal1ty Z68 Professional Gen3! I am use the Fatal1ty P67 at this moment.

I have a question, about the Gen 3. Sicne there is no such a CPU and PCI-E 3.0 available in the market, how did they test it? To claim it has Gen 3 ready?
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August 24, 2011 10:44:47 AM

dude they have these things in code red lock down years ahead they get tested by gamers ,hackers,tekheads , progys etc and when the tests come in they sort out a product line top end to low end then they get produced ,its the youtube video yet to be made

the only thing that we all must know is what type of RAM the new ivy cpu will take ASAP

tom are you listening ??? from tom himself "dual-channel DDR3 memory controller with official support for DRAM speeds of up to DDR3-1600 MHz"
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August 24, 2011 10:53:05 AM

Othrys said:
So after all that it doesn't really matter pro or extreme... if i've decided to go 6950 crossfire... will the intel motherboard make any difference at all or stop me... is it universal yet?


they use to be universal before amd bought ati then tech war broke out then flowers started to grow out from the underneath of a pc case in ones micros-of office then peace was declared forever more granting the power to intel to flourish the harmonous peace between ati and nvidia thus universal we are once again , but you can't mix your cards!!! stick to one flavor as much as your hearts desire
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August 24, 2011 11:29:52 AM

okay so 2 6950's ... should work with the pro gen 3 z68 asrock card no problems at all with no sacrifice... 16x16??? ... hmm someone also told me that x58 1366 socket i will be able to tripple and quad my gpu cards...
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August 24, 2011 1:39:52 PM

forget what you hear about reference past boards! 6950's will kick but if you can get the flex models your guarenteed eyefinity sapphire without the expense of highend monitors or adapters straight up http://www.sapphiretech.com/presentation/product/?cid=1...

i haven't seen a pcie3 16x16 mgu board yet and i guess it will take a nf300 chip to do that but at pcie3 speeds 8x8 is oomph

only some 68 boards will get the ivy go ahead as not all will be able to handle the pcie3 speed thats why the fatal1ty z68 is guarenteed to house the ivy thus the new gen gcards as it is built with the pcie2/pcie3 switch chip

sounds like your in my boat hehehaha need to feel comfy in that ol game chair got that bf3 on pre order found out that you can also preorder diablo3 and do i need a new rig ? well for me i've got a raid0 sata2 phenomx4 940 4gigs of ddr2 1066 and i just chucked a 2gig 6950 in her to keep me happy until i upgraded ,man you can wait for the z68 fatal1ty to go down in $ but they go like hot cakes especially with the new tweaks it has remember they only make a certain amount of these baby its just a shame it doesn't have 16x16ppcie3 but like the posts 8x8 will grant you first place as the gcards never pull pcie lane speeds at max and when you've got 2 2gig flex sapphire 6950's in xfire the shampers is all yours one of those flex's will even grant you that right as you'll be gaming with over 30fps easily a little fatal1ty mouse tweek and boom HIGHLIGHT REEL
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August 24, 2011 9:34:41 PM

haha *runs hands together* can't wait :) 
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