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September 27, 2010 11:48:03 PM

My old computer just died on me so am stuck on my laptop at the moment. I have been putting together a list of what I am going to buy in order to build myself a new gaming computer. I would like to run games such as DR2 and SC2 at close to max settings with the computer I'm going to build. I went with a medium sort of build in terms of power and cost since im looking to spend between $1000-$1200. I am looking for some help in terms of making sure all of these parts are compatible and also wondering what everyones take is in terms of the brands and models i chose. Any input would be appreciated.

My build list is as follows:

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1372-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: (I'm buying 2 of these so 8 GB total) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Once again thanks for looking over my build and honestly any and all information or opinions would be greatly appreciated.
September 28, 2010 12:03:01 AM

.... first... u dont need 8gb for gaming...

and seccond with that budget i think ts better to go with an amd build...

so...

phenom ii x4 955

ati 5850/5870

for the mobo a 790x chipset its ok

psu xfx black edition 750w/850w ( i prefer the 850w to be safe if u crossfire)

hdd samsung spinpoint f3 500gb or 1tb

ram 4gb ddr3 1600mhz cl7 g.skill

case ur choise... make sure it fits the card u will get and try to get a case with good airflow and good build quality

i think im not forgeting anithing
September 28, 2010 12:11:57 AM

Thank you for your quick reply. A couple comments on what you stated however.

I would like to stay away from amd and ati products since I have always gone with intel and nvidia. If you were forced to go with an intel build would mine be an acceptable build in your eyes? Also could you elaborate more on why I should go with 4Gb of memory instead of 8Gb? I am looking to have this build last about 3 years or so without having to upgrade if possibly which is why i went with the 8Gb in the first place. Also I will not be doing any crossfire or SLi so would my PSU be sufficient or should i be safe and go a little higher? I would like to save money where I can without hindering my computers performance too much if possible. Thanks again
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September 28, 2010 12:24:43 AM

Thegolfpro said:
My old computer just died on me so am stuck on my laptop at the moment. I have been putting together a list of what I am going to buy in order to build myself a new gaming computer. I would like to run games such as DR2 and SC2 at close to max settings with the computer I'm going to build. I went with a medium sort of build in terms of power and cost since im looking to spend between $1000-$1200. I am looking for some help in terms of making sure all of these parts are compatible and also wondering what everyones take is in terms of the brands and models i chose. Any input would be appreciated.

My build list is as follows:

Motherboard: GIGABYTE GA-P55-USB3 LGA 1156 Intel P55 USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Processor: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Recommend: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
This is a good board imo, should save you some case in the long run. Unless you are looking for USB 3 out of the box- which is really not important at all IMO.


Video Card: EVGA 01G-P3-1372-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Like the card, would consider going with the GIGABYTE model to save some cash, however, and the EVGA models are loud: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Memory: (I'm buying 2 of these so 8 GB total) G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As previously stated, no need for 8GB- but appears to be good RAM so I'll leave this to you.

Case: Rosewill Blackbone Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I see no issues with the case @ $40. May not be large enough for a big heatsink- but thats a $40 case anywhere you buy.

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-650TX 650W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Good, budget power supply.

HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black WD6401AALS 640GB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I see no issues with this HDD, you may want to consider the Samsung Spinpoint F3- which often gets great reviews and one of the fastest non-SSD's out there.

Once again thanks for looking over my build and honestly any and all information or opinions would be greatly appreciated.



With some of the freed up cash you can get a good heatsink for your i5 750. Not sure if your case will take a big one, so may want to stick to the Hyper 212+
September 28, 2010 12:26:50 AM

... mm if i where forced yes :p ... but for gaming the most important is the gpu... with and intel build u have less money to spend on gpu.. so

first... i think u should consider to sli in the future cause maby u will not be able to play the games in the future :p ....

if u do sli a 750w power supply its what i would get...

if u dont want to sli for nothing in the world.. lol that its ok and u should get another mobo cause that one has sli suport.. so ur paying something u will not use

games can use a maximum of 3gb so i dont thing u need more than 4gb... even if u do u can allways get the other 4gb in the future.. and they will be cheaper too
September 28, 2010 12:34:34 AM

I see I'm really twisting your arm choosing intel. hehe

I think I may take your advice and get a higher Watt PSU because like you said, there is alwayss that just in case for the future.

If games are only able to use 3Gb, why do so many motherboards support up to 16 to 24 Gb? What use would people have with that much ram unless going that high is more for video editing and things like that. I have a decent amount of computer knowledge but not as much as I would like. lol =)
September 28, 2010 12:40:26 AM

Thegolfpro said:
I see I'm really twisting your arm choosing intel. hehe

I think I may take your advice and get a higher Watt PSU because like you said, there is alwayss that just in case for the future.

If games are only able to use 3Gb, why do so many motherboards support up to 16 to 24 Gb? What use would people have with that much ram unless going that high is more for video editing and things like that. I have a decent amount of computer knowledge but not as much as I would like. lol =)


Someone can fact check this next part for me, but I'd say: more than 4gb starts to become more useful as you dedicate lots of RAM to PCI-E.

Example: I have 4GB RAM in my system, i use a GTX 460 1GB GPU, which means I lose 1GB to be dedicated to the card and only the card. This is fine, because that leaves me with 3GB which is a very efficient amt of RAM to have.

This isn't to say that more than 4GB is bad, it just isn't a very good value for your money in the same way that buying a $1200 video card isn't good value. Yeah, its fantastic to have lots of RAM- but you'll see marginal returns beyond 4GB, and almost no returns in most games- as they simply aren't coded to use more.
September 28, 2010 12:43:59 AM

That makes sense the way you put it. I am purchasing a 64 bit version of Windows 7 with my computer parts from newegg. Would this play into my decision of needing more than 4 Gb at all or would 4 Gb still be sufficient that I wouldnt notice any difference?
September 28, 2010 12:57:40 AM

Thegolfpro said:
That makes sense the way you put it. I am purchasing a 64 bit version of Windows 7 with my computer parts from newegg. Would this play into my decision of needing more than 4 Gb at all or would 4 Gb still be sufficient that I wouldnt notice any difference?


I think its a near non-factor. You should not run 64 bit with less than 2GB RAM, but I do not believe that your ceiling for diminishing returns also increases. If I were wrong, the ceiling would still be no higher than 6GB optimal.

Keep in mind that 32bit windows can only use 3.5GB of RAM- even if it has access to 4GB, so that extra .5GB would offset any kind of usage increase (real or imagined). I think 64 bit is a good call, but doesnt mean that you need more ram to run it, in and of itself. In reality, 64 bit is assumed when speaking of more than 4GB of RAM- as anyone with more than 4GB on a 32 bit system would clearly have no clue what they were doing!
September 28, 2010 1:02:12 AM

u shouldnt run 64 bit with less than 1gb not 2...
September 28, 2010 1:10:39 AM

Alright, I have been convinced. 4 GB of ram it is! I can always go to Best Buy and get more if needed down the road anyways since Memory is the easiest thing to upgrade by far. I'm going to update my full list here shortly and see what you guys think again. Thanks again for the continuous help.
September 28, 2010 2:30:56 AM

Alright here is my new list after talking with many helpful people on here:

Motherboard and Processor Combo:
1. Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
2. EVGA P55 SLI 132-LF-E655-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... (This combo is a great value)

Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Again, best bang for the buck)

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Only going with 4GB, instead of original 8GB from above)

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Went with 750W in case I do SLi later on)

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS Black 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think that is everything that I need. Overall it comes to about $925 after mail in rebates and shipping and what not, which I think is quite affordable for such a strong computer in my eyes. I will be connecting this unit to my 32" HD TV using an HDMI cord I already have so no monitor or speakers are required. I also already have wireless mouse and keyboard so don't need those either. Based on all of the above information does anyone have any comments or suggestions before I place the order? (Have to order within 24 Hours to get some of the deals) Any input is appreciated as always. =)
September 28, 2010 2:41:52 AM

ohh i didnt know that lol.... i thounght that u will need more :p 
September 28, 2010 2:42:23 AM

I don't need more than 500GB so need there, but I am curious as to why some people think I need more watts and others less. Is there any way to know for sure since I would love to save $30 and get the 650W but dont want to get it and then be screwed down the road.

Also is the only difference between those 2 Memory options the Voltage of 1.35 and 1.65? If so, why is 1.35 Voltage better?...I dont know too much about specifics when it comes to RAM.

As for the combo you listed. I went with the 750 instead of the 760 for $7 less since the 750 Overclocks to the same amount as the 760.

One last thing I forgot to add/ask is what is a good adapter to get if I need to add wireless internet to my desktop PC? My router is quite far from my bedroom so it would be best if the adapter had some good range on it as well but not be too overpriced.
September 28, 2010 3:16:22 AM

Thegolfpro said:
Alright here is my new list after talking with many helpful people on here:

Motherboard and Processor Combo:
1. Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Processor BX80605I5750
2. EVGA P55 SLI 132-LF-E655-KR LGA1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite... (This combo is a great value)

Video Card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Again, best bang for the buck)

Memory: G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL7D-4GBRM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Only going with 4GB, instead of original 8GB from above)

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... (Went with 750W in case I do SLi later on)

HDD: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD502HJ 500GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Optical Drive: ASUS Black 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Cooler: COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think that is everything that I need. Overall it comes to about $925 after mail in rebates and shipping and what not, which I think is quite affordable for such a strong computer in my eyes. I will be connecting this unit to my 32" HD TV using an HDMI cord I already have so no monitor or speakers are required. I also already have wireless mouse and keyboard so don't need those either. Based on all of the above information does anyone have any comments or suggestions before I place the order? (Have to order within 24 Hours to get some of the deals) Any input is appreciated as always. =)

That build looks great!
The only thing i would change is the psu not because it's not good just because it's non-modular and the 300 isn't the greatest for cable management.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...

Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus -$19.22
http://www.ncixus.com/products/index.php?sku=41337&vpn=...
September 28, 2010 3:35:00 AM

I knew it was non-modular and am absolutely fine with that. And thanks for the link to the good price on the heatsink however shipping from that place is absolutely ridiculous. $17 shipping to Phoenix, AZ for a $19 item. hehe =)
September 28, 2010 4:22:26 AM

Thegolfpro said:
I knew it was non-modular and am absolutely fine with that. And thanks for the link to the good price on the heatsink however shipping from that place is absolutely ridiculous. $17 shipping to Phoenix, AZ for a $19 item. hehe =)

Well i'm glad you got back to me and told me so!
I was always curious to know their rates.
It's expensive because it ships out of Vancouver.
I'm Canadian and Newegg.ca is just as bad their warehouse in Canada is about an hour away from me and their shipping charges are atrocious $10 and over.
I've never bought anything from them unless it's a Shellshocker and includes free shipping.
http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml...
http://www.amazon.com/Cooler-Master-RR-B10-212P-G1-Univ...
Enjoy your new rig!:) 
September 28, 2010 4:27:59 AM

Yea you've gotta love the pricing between countries even when they aren't really shipping out of country. The amazon one saves me $8 or so since they have free shipping and newegg doesnt so I think I might go with them. Thanks for that.

On an off note, do you happen to know what would be a good wireless adapter for me to get that has decent range on it? I would also like it to be somewhat fast since I do online gaming a lot.
September 28, 2010 5:08:59 AM

Thegolfpro said:
Yea you've gotta love the pricing between countries even when they aren't really shipping out of country. The amazon one saves me $8 or so since they have free shipping and newegg doesnt so I think I might go with them. Thanks for that.

On an off note, do you happen to know what would be a good wireless adapter for me to get that has decent range on it? I would also like it to be somewhat fast since I do online gaming a lot.

You know what i use a cheap Belkin G usb adapter got it for $20 and never have problems.
Can't swear about gaming performance though because it's on my non-gaming secondary rig.
Obviously you'll want an N unit from my own experience and from some reviews i've read Belkins have very good range.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
Btw i have the G.Skills Ripjaws CL7 ram kit and it's awesome.
Actually runs at 1.6v not 1.65v.
September 28, 2010 8:26:30 PM

Thegolfpro said:
I don't need more than 500GB so need there, but I am curious as to why some people think I need more watts and others less. Is there any way to know for sure since I would love to save $30 and get the 650W but dont want to get it and then be screwed down the road.

Also is the only difference between those 2 Memory options the Voltage of 1.35 and 1.65? If so, why is 1.35 Voltage better?...I dont know too much about specifics when it comes to RAM.

As for the combo you listed. I went with the 750 instead of the 760 for $7 less since the 750 Overclocks to the same amount as the 760.


Then get the combo 1TBF3+TX650, ends up being the same price as the 650+500GB separately.

The majority of PSUs are crap, as people are loathe to spend money on quality units. A good 550 watt can power it, but a cheap OCZ 1000 watt would probably kill your componentry when asked to deliver that load. Anandtech has benches and reviews up with power consumption, and even in furmark 460 SLI+an i7 never pull 550 watts.

Yes, 1.35 is better for overclocking and longevity in that it reduces stress on the IMC.

760 is 7$ more, but 5% faster, making it better price/performance. It will also overclock higher as it's better silicon (and hence, why it's been labelled a 760 instead of a 750).
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