Hi all,
I'm looking to build a new PC for myself after not having made one for years. The last time I built one was in late 05 / early 06 when I put together an Opteron 170, Asus A8n32-SLI, twin 7800GTXs, etc. and overclocked the Opty. Can't remember what overclock I reached. It's been getting on a while now and it looks like Civ 5 is gonna stink on my laptop, so its time for a new gaming PC.
Budget is around $2000 (although I'm UK-based so imagine prices here are a bit more expensive) and I don't need a monitor in that. After a few years 'out the loop' it's hard to come back and work out what's changed since, but am I right in thinking:
-AMD processors now lag behind Intel somewhat but are generally a lot cheaper
-Creative soundcards are no longer the 'de facto' choice
-Sata III and USB 3 are the new standards
-Booting off an SSD is the way forward
Any other big developments I've missed?
With the above in mind, I've been considering the following:
CPU: Very undecided here. I can get an OEM i7 960 for $475. I guess there's not going to be a massive performance difference between a 930 and a 960 though. But also out there is the possibility of an OEM Xeon W3680 (which I think is the equivalent of the 980X) for about $885. Is there any advantage/disadvantage to getting a Xeon? From what I recall with Opterons, they also OC'd better than Athlon x2s, does the same apply with Xeons and i7s? (960 $475, Xeon $885).
Mobo: Asus P6X58D-E. Seems a good solid motherboard at a reasonable price - is there any particular reason why I would want anything more expensive than this (the Big Bang or Rampage III, for instance)? ($250)
Graphics: XFX HD 5870 1GB. It seems ATI cards have the edge in general heat output/power needed, etc. But would I be better off waiting for the 6xxx series, or is this not going to be a massive leap forward? Should I pay the premium and get a 2GB model? It's also my understanding that its better to get one top-spec gfx card than SLI/crossfire two 'good' cards, as I've always got the upgrade potential in the future. (5870 $425)
RAM: Not entirely clear on this, the Asus supports 2000mhz RAM but suggests that's OC'd so I'm guessing 1600 is stock. In this case, I'd be looking at 6gb, either Corsair Classic or Corsair Dominator. Presumably getting the former will limit my OC potential (unless I get a CPU with an unlocked multiplier)? (Corsair Classic $190, Dominator $270).
SSD: 60GB Corsair Force F100, read 285mb/s and write 275mb/s. Have seen others with faster read speeds but very low write speeds and figure a good balance is needed. ($150)
Regular hard drive: 1TB Western Digital WD1002FAEX. Bit of a jump in price between this, a 7200rpm model, and faster 10,000rpm models. ($100)
Soundcard: Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3. Looks like Creative isn't the way forward anymore, and this card allows full Blu-ray audio output (which is handy as I will try and connect my PC to my AV receiver on occasion). ($200)
Case: Either NZXT Hush or NZXT Phantom. Have been looking at some nice Silverstone HTPC cases but am I right in thinking my cooling will be worse and overclocking potential quite a bit worse if I plump for one of these? (Phantom $160, Hush $100).
CPU cooling: Noctua NH-U12P. Looks to have pretty good reviews and won't be too loud. ($75).
Optical: An LG Blu-ray writer ($120).
Any comments or thoughts on the above would be much appreciated.
I'm looking to build a new PC for myself after not having made one for years. The last time I built one was in late 05 / early 06 when I put together an Opteron 170, Asus A8n32-SLI, twin 7800GTXs, etc. and overclocked the Opty. Can't remember what overclock I reached. It's been getting on a while now and it looks like Civ 5 is gonna stink on my laptop, so its time for a new gaming PC.
Budget is around $2000 (although I'm UK-based so imagine prices here are a bit more expensive) and I don't need a monitor in that. After a few years 'out the loop' it's hard to come back and work out what's changed since, but am I right in thinking:
-AMD processors now lag behind Intel somewhat but are generally a lot cheaper
-Creative soundcards are no longer the 'de facto' choice
-Sata III and USB 3 are the new standards
-Booting off an SSD is the way forward
Any other big developments I've missed?
With the above in mind, I've been considering the following:
CPU: Very undecided here. I can get an OEM i7 960 for $475. I guess there's not going to be a massive performance difference between a 930 and a 960 though. But also out there is the possibility of an OEM Xeon W3680 (which I think is the equivalent of the 980X) for about $885. Is there any advantage/disadvantage to getting a Xeon? From what I recall with Opterons, they also OC'd better than Athlon x2s, does the same apply with Xeons and i7s? (960 $475, Xeon $885).
Mobo: Asus P6X58D-E. Seems a good solid motherboard at a reasonable price - is there any particular reason why I would want anything more expensive than this (the Big Bang or Rampage III, for instance)? ($250)
Graphics: XFX HD 5870 1GB. It seems ATI cards have the edge in general heat output/power needed, etc. But would I be better off waiting for the 6xxx series, or is this not going to be a massive leap forward? Should I pay the premium and get a 2GB model? It's also my understanding that its better to get one top-spec gfx card than SLI/crossfire two 'good' cards, as I've always got the upgrade potential in the future. (5870 $425)
RAM: Not entirely clear on this, the Asus supports 2000mhz RAM but suggests that's OC'd so I'm guessing 1600 is stock. In this case, I'd be looking at 6gb, either Corsair Classic or Corsair Dominator. Presumably getting the former will limit my OC potential (unless I get a CPU with an unlocked multiplier)? (Corsair Classic $190, Dominator $270).
SSD: 60GB Corsair Force F100, read 285mb/s and write 275mb/s. Have seen others with faster read speeds but very low write speeds and figure a good balance is needed. ($150)
Regular hard drive: 1TB Western Digital WD1002FAEX. Bit of a jump in price between this, a 7200rpm model, and faster 10,000rpm models. ($100)
Soundcard: Asus Xonar HDAV 1.3. Looks like Creative isn't the way forward anymore, and this card allows full Blu-ray audio output (which is handy as I will try and connect my PC to my AV receiver on occasion). ($200)
Case: Either NZXT Hush or NZXT Phantom. Have been looking at some nice Silverstone HTPC cases but am I right in thinking my cooling will be worse and overclocking potential quite a bit worse if I plump for one of these? (Phantom $160, Hush $100).
CPU cooling: Noctua NH-U12P. Looks to have pretty good reviews and won't be too loud. ($75).
Optical: An LG Blu-ray writer ($120).
Any comments or thoughts on the above would be much appreciated.