Which "package" ?

[akashic]

i'm looking to do a new build my budget is apx. 600$ (that is comparing neweggs hardware prices to the prics of hardware in my country)

Mainly i'm going to use it for gaming, however i do some light video editing and some re-encoding (basicly chaging my dvds into avi so i can play them on my Phone)

I'm not interested in doing any serious overclocking nor interested in going SLI, with my budget it doesn't seem posible to get an improvement compared to a single card. I'm not planing on doing any "upgrades" on the hardware till about 2½-3 years. Here is the two packages i've considered

Packages 1
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103872
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814500169
Memory: which ever DDR3 4gb kit(2x2gb) that is cheapest running atleast 1333mhz(PC3-10600)
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181


Packages 2
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103808 (this should be the cs3 model)
MOBO: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813130228
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127512
Memory: which ever DDR3 4gb kit(2x2gb) that is cheapest running atleast 1333mhz(PC3-10600)
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139004
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152181


I've chosen NOT to use the form as neither of you is propbly gonna be able to navigate the sites that i'm going to be purchecing the parts from, but as i said at the start of the post if anyone do have a different idea the budget is apx. 600$.(if you are looking at newegg)

I've got a Case, ODD, mouse, keyboard, operating system (Windows 7 x64 professionel), speakers and my a monitor(resolution 1440x900) so the parts i need is those i've given links for

 

[dndhatcher]

The difference is trading a PhenomII x4 955 for an AthlonII x3 and using the money to upgrade from a 460 (768MB) to a 460(1GB).

In most games the x3 with the better GPU will get better performance. Some games (like BFBC2, GTA4) the X4 with the weaker GPU (with AA/AF turned off) will perform better.

 

[wielander]

At your resolution the GTX 460 1GB will perform 5-10% better than the 768MB depending on the game you choose. Neither of the processors in your builds should bottleneck the performance of these graphics cards at your resolution except in the most CPU intensive games.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/6.html


The Phenom II 955 will perform 25-35% better at video editing and transcoding.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-After-Effects-CS5,2427.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS5,2428.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Transcode-Handbrake-MPEG-2-to-H.264,2421.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Transcode-Mainconcept-Reference-v2.0-MPEG-2-to-H.264-AVC,2424.html

 

[Mr Pizza]

Well wait until October 12-ish for the new 6XXX GPUs, they are the 4XX remedies

 

[akashic]

At your resolution the GTX 460 1GB will perform 5-10% better than the 768MB depending on the game you choose. Neither of the processors in your builds should bottleneck the performance of these graphics cards at your resolution except in the most CPU intensive games.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/MSI/GTX_460_HAWK/6.html


The Phenom II 955 will perform 25-35% better at video editing and transcoding.

http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-After-Effects-CS5,2427.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Editing-Adobe-Premiere-Pro-CS5,2428.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Transcode-Handbrake-MPEG-2-to-H.264,2421.html
http://www.tomshardware.com/charts/desktop-cpu-charts-2010/Video-Transcode-Mainconcept-Reference-v2.0-MPEG-2-to-H.264-AVC,2424.html

so posible getting the GTX 460 1gb with an Athlon II x4 640 and posible a cheaper HDD would be a better choise ? or how much does HDDs have to say in preformance of video encoding and gameing?

 

[akashic]

Well wait until October 12-ish for the new 6XXX GPUs, they are the 4XX remedies

I assume you mean the new series from AMD/ATI. I believe that you are right the unoffecial release is apx. 12 october. But seeing that i don't really have any idea about what the details mean and i need FPS/3DMark scores to compared GPUs i really can't tell if the "low models" are better, and i'm not sure if Nvidia will be dropping the prices cause AMD/ATI will release a new series that is going to be close to there current series.. Now that having been said, i've read that the cuda that Nvidia GPUs have is better at re-encoding videos(as said making my dvds playable on my phone) They also have Physx, where ATI have eye infinity, am am not(nor will i ever) be using more then one minitor, so the it would seem i'd get more from a Nvidia GPU then an ATI gpu.

 

[Mr Pizza]

Well the Barts XT has a little better specs then the 5870, unofficially. I don't know, I would just see what they have to offer. AMD and ATi work better together at these levels.

 

[wielander]

so posible getting the GTX 460 1gb with an Athlon II x4 640 and posible a cheaper HDD would be a better choise ? or how much does HDDs have to say in preformance of video encoding and gameing?

That would probably be a better choice for gaming, especially first person shooter gaming. The Athlon II x4s aren't all that much better for gaming than the X3s typically, but they are markedly better for video encoding. The 640 would still be ~10% behind a Phenom II X4 955 in encoding.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/122?vs=119

Your HDD performance will make very little difference in video encoding and gaming. There's so much work to be done by the processor that those applications aren't limited by how quickly data is read off of the disk. A faster hard drive would only really improve loading times for games. That said, faster hard drives aren't very much more expensive than slower ones.