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September 30, 2010 2:01:29 AM



Approximate Purchase Date: 1 to 2 weeks or sooner


Budget Range: 1000-1300 Before rebates or w/e

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, some limiting editing etc

Parts Not Required: keyboard, speakers, monitor, mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: Yes, limited experience

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments:

Ok, so I really want to build a gaming pc that will run most games. My budget doesn't include the monitor, but I do need to purchase it, so any suggestions are welcome.

I've been researching the past few weeks and have found this build in another thread.



CPU : $300 Core i7-950

Mobo : $200 ASUS Sabertooth X58.

RAM : $160 GCORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB)

HDD : $55 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3

GPU : $560 2 X $280 Radeon HD 5850

PSU : $110 CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX

HSF : $30 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus

ODD : $21 LG SATA DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support

Case : $90 COOLER MASTER HAF 922

Cost approx $1550 total.


My concerns/questions are:

CPU: It seems like the i5-750 is more efficient in terms of price performance, but will it somehow bottleneck me in the future?

Mobo: I don't know which brands/models are really great, but this one has USB 3.0 and what not so it seems more futureproof than some ive seen.

GPU: Would it be better to go with one 5870 and then maybe add another in the future? It seems like going SLI/crossfire from day one would leave no upgrade path

Case: I dont really like the crazy industrial boxy look of these coolermaster cases, does anyone know of one thats still quality but looks a big different?


So, should I instead go with a cheaper i5-750 and a cheaper motherboard with some dual channel ram and get one fairly powerful videocard?

Advice please! Thanks
September 30, 2010 2:39:05 AM

I definitely think this should be an i5-based build. It doesn't have hyperthreading, and you lose about 3% performance when running dual GPUs, but it's about 200$ cheaper after mobo/ram savfings.

GPU: avoid the 5870 unless you can get it sub 280$, it's overpriced.

PSU should be swapped for an XFX black edition 750 for 5850 CF.
September 30, 2010 2:42:37 AM

You could keep the power of the i7-950 and still have the economy of LGA 1156 with an i7-870. Might be able to shave some pennies with careful use of combos. Also, could save a chunk of money with SLI GTX 460s.

Lots of options here, and your budget is ample.

Some of the selections are old, and need to be updated. Do you live near a MicroCenter?
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a b 4 Gaming
September 30, 2010 2:57:38 AM

Looks ok to me here's some alternatives.
Ram-Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 6GB -$139.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CASE-COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN3 CM690 II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Productcompare.aspx?Submi...
http://www.coolermaster-usa.com/product.php?category_id...
http://www.hardwarecanucks.com/forum/hardware-canucks-r...

yes doing an 1156 build with an i5 760 is a very good option and gaming performance will not suffer imo
A 5870 or GTX 470 are good more powerful options on either platform.
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB -$89.99 for 1156
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Mobo-ASUS P7P55D-E Pro -$179.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Psu for either platform
XFX Black Edition P1-750B-CAG9 750W -$129.99/$114.99 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
September 30, 2010 3:36:13 AM

Here are my suggestions:

Processor: i5-750, with a CM hyper 212 plus heatsink thrown into the combo for $222.

Motherboard: ASUS SABERTOOTH 55i LGA 1156 Intel P55 ATX Intel Motherboard I like this board – saw it at Frys today, and it looks good, but then green is my favorite color. No matter my bias here, is still has received good reviews. Combine the mobo with Win7 (which was not in the $1550 build) for $220.

First Graphics card: GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB for $200

Second graphics card and Corsair 850 TX PSU for $290 after rebate.

HDD: Samsung Spinpoint F3, 1TB is on sale with a promo code for $59. That is only $4 more than the 500 GB you had listed. Add to it a combo for the Thermaltake V9 Black Edition ATX case for a very low price of $80 after rebate and discount. Combo Hard Drive and Case for $129 Is that case more appealing to you, or should the crowd here keep looking?

Cannot forget the memory: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB for $93. Not cheap, but fast (1600), low latency (7) and really low voltage (1.35v). This stuff overclocks nicely.

DVD: ASUS Black 24X DVD+R for $19. 2X faster than the cheapest DVD burner, and it got 5 eggs on Newegg.

Wow, Total is $1173, including shipping less rebates and promo codes. Buy now to get these prices - they will change in a couple of days. Also, you may not get an additional rebate on the second graphics card, so the total might be $1193. That is still pretty good. Let me know on the case.
September 30, 2010 3:42:29 AM

Ok,

I guess that for my needs a 750 or 760 is most feasible/efficient.

760 is only 10$ more right now... but it seems like theres more positive feelings overall regarding the 750.

Sadly I don't live near a Microcenter, no love for North Carolina.

Ok, so here an update:

CPU: Intel Core i5-750 Lynnfield 2.66GHz 8MB w/ some cooler $220ish
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mobo: ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 $170ish
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM: G.SKILL ECO Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $93
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD : $55 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU : GIGABYTE GV-N460OC-1GI GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 1GB $200ish x2 ???
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX 850W ATX12V 2.2 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Active PFC Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ODD : $21 LG SATA DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support

Case: COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced $90


Thanks Davcon eloric and sp12 for your guidance so far!



EDIT:

Oh man I replied before your most recent post eloric!

Wow, yeah that build really seems solid and I do like that case! The most out of all the suggestions so far! Although looking through some of the negative reviews about makes me a little tense... I'm probably too paranoid, but I'm going to keep searching.

So 2x 460's from the start.... I guess that will hold me for a few years!

Still need a monitor but don't factor it into the budget.

EDIT2;

Gahhh I cant decide,

Should I just steal this build

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296113-31-purchased-p...

And get the nice dell monitor and the better RAM?

Maybe I would be ok with with a HAF 922 case after all... the looks could grow on me.
a b 4 Gaming
September 30, 2010 9:55:59 AM

I like single card solutions. Less power consumption, less heat, no problems in games that are not optimized for SLI/CF.

Intel Core i5-760 + ASUS P7P55D-E Pro
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
G.SKILL Ripjaws + LIAN LI Lancool PC-K58W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB + XFX P1-650X-CAG9 650W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
ASUS Black 24X DVD+R
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MSI R5870 Lightning II
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ASUS VH236HL-P Black 23" 2ms
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$1,298.92 before rebates, $80 rebates.

September 30, 2010 11:49:00 AM

Good catch, Devil_Poo. Looks like there are a whole slew of Cons that reviewers have mentioned - even when they gave it 5 eggs. Something is up there. I withdraw my proposal on the Thermaltake case.

Let's start with inexpensive. Rosewill CHALLENGER Black Gaming for $55. This price of this case keeps creeping up, so it is probably pretty good.

Here is the classic black case. LIAN LI owners love their cases, and this one is no exception. Lancool PC-K7B Black for $83.

One more LIAN LI, this one a little less austere. LIAN LI PC-8N Black for $103.

The classic alternate to Cooler Master HAF is Antec. Here is the grand daddy Antec 1200 tower to consider for $132.

Sorry, ran out of time for monitors. ASUS VW224U Black 22" for $159. It has good response at 2ms, 16 million colors, good viewing angle of 170 degrees. Need to buy it today at that price.

September 30, 2010 12:22:51 PM

Oh man... too many choices...

I like the look of those cases, but after reading through alot of reviews I'm starting to rethink the HAF922.

Its looks aren't so bad and it does seem to have great airflow and cable management potential...

Still thinking.



Mosox, your build seems pretty solid, but I have a few concerns.

1. It seems like some people on this forum assert that Mushkin 1600 ram is better/faster than the G.Skill, but does it really matter? I know G.Skill has a combo, but I'm not sure about the case anyway.

2. Is 650W psu enough to handle a future crossfire of 5870's? Seems to be pushing it...

3. Some have said the 5870 is overpriced at this point, so why get it over say a GTX 470?



In terms of monitor, I can't help but be draw to this $270 Dell ultrasharp
http://accessories.dell.com/sna/products/Displays/produ...

I can't tell if my biases toward Dell monitors is worth spending $70-100 than on an ASUS.


Thank you both for your suggestions!
a b 4 Gaming
September 30, 2010 1:25:14 PM

1.The RAM is the same, doesn't really matter. Everybody recommends what he likes.

If you don't like that case, here's another combo:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Review:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4XCT9yibwQ

2. A good 650W PSU is able to run even two HD5870 but not two GTX470. The 5870 is a bit slower but much cooler, silent and has a smaller power consumption.

This card is very good too and has lifetime warranty:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Anyway I wouldn't SLI/CF a high end video card (by the time you will need to SLI/CF, that card will be obsolete). Think like having a GTX 275/HD 4890 now, those are still good for gaming and you won't buy another one when they won't be, they're way too old. So, get one very good card now or get two slower video cards and SLI right away as eloric said - he suggested two GTX460, I think you can also get two GTS 450, SAY:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Those should be better than a single GTX 470 and you can easily power them with a 650W PSU (also you can power two GTX460).



September 30, 2010 2:15:21 PM

Ok ok,

So now I'm thinking based on what you say,

The i5-760 combo above
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Coolermaster HAF 922 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The Spinpoint 1TB and 650W PSU combo
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

The asus DVD drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GTX 460 x2 but I don't know which brand to get... hmm im still torn on 2 460's vs the 5870.......

4 gb mushkin ram
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So without a videocard chosen it comes to about $740 which leaves plenty for the Vcard and maybe a CPU cooler hmmm




a b 4 Gaming
September 30, 2010 3:20:24 PM

I think your build is shaping up quite nicely.
I wouldn't change a thing regarding the base platform cpu/mobo/ram selections.
I also recommend this case combo.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
Hdd-SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB -: $58.99With Promo CodeEMCYXNW34
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Tough call on the gpu both are very good .
ASUS ENGTX460 DirectCU/2DI/1GD5 GeForce GTX -$229.99
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=14-121-...
XFX HD-587X-ZNFC Radeon HD 5870 1GB -$379.99/$359.99 after mir
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Who knows if they actually send you the pictured model which is a preferred reference card.
September 30, 2010 3:50:45 PM

Devil_Poo said:
Approximate Purchase Date: 1 to 2 weeks or sooner


Budget Range: 1000-1300 Before rebates or w/e

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Internet, some limiting editing etc

Parts Not Required: keyboard, speakers, monitor, mouse

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.com

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: none

Overclocking: Yes, limited experience

SLI or Crossfire: Yes

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200

Additional Comments:

Ok, so I really want to build a gaming pc that will run most games. My budget doesn't include the monitor, but I do need to purchase it, so any suggestions are welcome.

I've been researching the past few weeks and have found this build in another thread.



CPU : $300 Core i7-950

Mobo : $200 ASUS Sabertooth X58.

RAM : $160 GCORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB)

HDD : $55 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3

GPU : $560 2 X $280 Radeon HD 5850

PSU : $110 CORSAIR CMPSU-850TX

HSF : $30 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus

ODD : $21 LG SATA DVD Burner - Bulk LightScribe Support

Case : $90 COOLER MASTER HAF 922

Cost approx $1550 total.


My concerns/questions are:

CPU: It seems like the i5-750 is more efficient in terms of price performance, but will it somehow bottleneck me in the future?

Mobo: I don't know which brands/models are really great, but this one has USB 3.0 and what not so it seems more futureproof than some ive seen.

GPU: Would it be better to go with one 5870 and then maybe add another in the future? It seems like going SLI/crossfire from day one would leave no upgrade path

Case: I dont really like the crazy industrial boxy look of these coolermaster cases, does anyone know of one thats still quality but looks a big different?


So, should I instead go with a cheaper i5-750 and a cheaper motherboard with some dual channel ram and get one fairly powerful videocard?

Advice please! Thanks



Case: Look for Cooler Master - Sniper. Good quality, airflow, spacious, good looks.
CPU: Stay with i7 if you stick with X58 MOBO, but go for i7-930 and OC if you need to.
HDD: You should have 2 x HDDs at the minimum (SSD+HDD if budget allows)

September 30, 2010 3:54:37 PM

Information overload. :pt1cable:  I understand. Let's help you get through the last of this!

The HAF922 is a very nice case. Get it.

When I look at mosox's links for the video cards, it does not seem to make too much difference which card to pick. They are all tweaked at different speeds - the faster the settings, the better the score. So don't be concerned now - you can overclock later. Buy the most inexpensive one, or the quietest one if noise is important.

As for the power supply, here is the the tool that I use: Antec Power Supply Calculator . If you do mild overclock and add 20% for capacitor aging, then you are looking at 650 W as the rock bottom minimum. 700W or 750W would be better. The 850W that was in your original build will allow you do anything you want, and let you carry it over to the next major upgrade.

The Muskin memory that I recomend (for the same resons as the G. Skill) is this:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 4GB for $96. Looks very similar, but it has lower voltage, so there is a lot more "gas in the tank" when it comes to overclocking. You will probably spend $5 less in power over the life of the memory too. Oh, it is sold out, which is why I did not tell you about it before. It should be back in stock next Tuesday, per Newegg.

One last word: This will be the fastest machine you have ever owned - it is going to scream! Any of these recommendations are going to work for you, and you will not really be able to tell the difference in the final build, so don't worry, and have fun. :hello: 
September 30, 2010 9:27:17 PM

Woo ok I'm glad to cement a few choices!

I now know I could never build a house because I'd want the "best" of every variable involved and would be mad at myself forever if I decided I had picked a shabby material/layout.


So I'll change my RAM to that lower voltage model... ahhh Tuesday seems so far away.

In terms of power supply, what do we all think about the 850 watt corsair paired with the GTX 460 combo?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Then just another identical GTX 460. I'm having a hard time discovering which GTX is most quiet or W/e.

I'll get a cpu cooler just to be safe in case I feel adventurous with my overclocking.


Ok, so its almost done... Is this system pretty balanced? I hope the i5-750 wont bottleneck me spending like $450 on 2 gtx 460's.


Those Asus monitors seem kinda sketchy... gah but the Dell went up in price.

Thank you all for your aid!
September 30, 2010 11:57:55 PM

Balanced? Hell no, it is not balanced. It is a monster gaming machine built to hack and slash in as much gory detail as possible.

Its not a balanced family sedan to keep the budget on spreadsheets, its a racing car, and you are going to make it fly around the track, flat out, at over 100 degrees celsius. If it were a surf board it would be one of those huge long boards that the big kahuna uses to surf 3 story tall waves in Hawaii.

You are going to have a PC that will beat some of the best machines that TH can build. Don't believe me? Here is an article from today where they had to go back and rebuild a $2000 configuration because it got beat up by the $1000 PC. http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/newegg-combo-toms-h... Go build yours, and see how it compares to these other PCs.

My money says it will top them all in the gaming benchmarks.

Enough said.
October 1, 2010 1:14:15 AM

YES! I got an email while in class tonight!

Ok, I'm putting it all together...

So I've got

--i5-750 with w/e motherboard it is

--2 Gtx 460's

--Spinpoint 1 TB

--HAF 922 coolermaster case

--Corsair 850 Watt PSU

--The low voltage 4 Gb mushkin ram mentioned

--Cooler master CPU cooler for $30
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

--Asus dvd burner everyone recommends

Total = $1206

Plus i want to get a monitor:

SUS VH242H Black 23.6" 5ms HDMI Full 1080P Widescreen LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 1000:1 (ASCR 20000:1) Built in Speakers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

So if my budget for CPU is 1300ish I still have 100ish I could spend...

Would an SSD be a good investment, I know it only improves loading times, but still....

Its all coming together!
I'm so stoked, I can feel a purchase next day or two of something.

I just need to make sure all my components are compatible and will fit etc I suppose!



October 1, 2010 1:42:28 AM

OCZ Agility 2 OCZSSD2-2AGTE60G 2.5" 60GB for $120. This is one of the fastest on the market today. It is a good size to hold your OS and your favorite games. Price is very good.

All the parts fit - the Cooler Master case is a good size. Darn, it does not have the 2.5" conversion kit to hold the SSD. You need to buy one of those, and an extra SATA cable.
October 1, 2010 1:44:53 AM

850 watt PSU is mega-overkill and not that nice for the price.
October 1, 2010 2:32:14 AM

Ooooo Yea that SSD is looking so fine!

So 120$ for SSD, 7$ for drive enclosure converter, and 5ish for a sata cable...

is this an appropriate cable?
Nippon Labs Ultra Thin Premium SATA II Cable 1M (3.28 ft.) Mini SATA Cable with Locking Latch SATA 2 for SATA I and SATA II Hard Drive Model SATA-1-MINI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


As to the PSU,

I dunno, the 850 seems like a good deal... I mean the XFX 750W is $115 after MIR, but the 850 corsair is 130 then like $30 in combo savings plus a $10 MIR.


Thank you all!
October 1, 2010 2:43:09 AM

The combo savings are nice on that, but the XFX has the advantage of modular cabling and silver efficiency. In the end it's a tossup, but I would consider dropping to the TX-650 if you want to go on the lowend of the scale.

Dual 460s+an overclocked i7 pull less than 550 watts, so 650 gives you a lot of wiggle room for overclocking and component degradation.
October 1, 2010 2:59:27 AM

Are modular cabling and silver efficiency really worth it?

Im not sure I understand the advantages.

Gah Its just that the cards selected are a good combo and I like having more power than not enough, I dont feel comfortable with only 650W.

I guess I could spend like 80$ to go XFX 750w with two fancy "superclocked" gtx 460s...

GAH the choices are tearing me apart!

But I still appreciate the advice!


-------------------------------------
EDIT EDIT EDIT EDIT


Ok, so after some considerable thought...

I think Im going to switch a buncha stuff around

go with the XFX 750W psu in a Combo with an antec 900 case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

and 2 of these super clocked gtx 460's
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My total cost increases to 1290, so I may have to wait on an SSD, but all the reviews mentioning quality issues for the gigabyte card were freaking me out. Plus, after some research the XFX psu does seem quite nice.

But now I worry the antec 900 to too small for SLI...... GAH

So, how about that for a final draft?

Is it hard to add an SSD boot drive after the initial build process?
October 1, 2010 4:26:12 AM

Devil_Poo said:
,


Gahhh I cant decide,

Should I just steal this build

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296113-31-purchased-p...

And get the nice dell monitor and the better RAM?

Maybe I would be ok with with a HAF 922 case after all... the looks could grow on me.


Lol nice! My psu ram and 470 come in tomorrow and I can framing wait... Login the haf 912 so far it's awesome lords room great features etc

Edit: thx iPhone autocorrect
October 1, 2010 7:27:15 PM

muckle said:
Lol nice! My psu ram and 470 come in tomorrow and I can framing wait... Login the haf 912 so far it's awesome lords room great features etc

Edit: thx iPhone autocorrect


Dude, I know!

I'm excited too... I'm going to order mine after I decide finally what to get lol.

Your build seems solid though!

I'll be going from my busted Toshiba laptop that stutters playing a youtube vid to a game destroying monster. I cant wait or decide.

-----------------------------------
EDIT

Gah my cpu mobo combo expired.....

But I found a GTX 460 combo to offset.



So I've actually switched to the HAF 922 case and sycthe mugen cooler.

Based on the setup and those changes, does this setup look ok?

In terms of mobo - cpu compatibility, quality ect?

I just dont want any regrets hahha
October 3, 2010 4:26:33 PM

OK!

Shameless bump / final need of advice

Here is my config as it stands now!




ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ok so is there anthing I could possible do to improve this build at my budget of $1300?

And is this mobo a pretty good one? I wanted one with usb 3.0 and whatnot so it will be slightly more futureproof.



I'm so stocked about ordering something soon, I just want one final lookover, or someone to say "this looks perfect, go for it"

October 3, 2010 5:01:49 PM

first off, I built mine Saturday. The HAF 912 was GREAT to work with. GREAT. I did add fans to the expansion slots. check out ebay for deals on extra fan packs. I would wholeheartedly recommend it over the 922 unless you need that side window. cable management was just awesome. dust filters, u can remove the cages you aren't using, etc. check out a review. I can't believe the thing was 60 bucks.

I think you should look at this RAM and psu combo:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

It's a great deal... and the RAM is fine dude. Don't waste money on a nearly impercievable difference in latency. Plus the more power in PSU is always good - think future.

I can't speak for the scythe, but I really like the hyper 212+ cooler - highly rated, and install wasn't bad.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

amazon has it with free shipping.


And I hate complicate things further, but I want to suggest an alternative to the 460's. I just got my gigabyte super overclock 470 and this things a beast

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Check out the tom's review:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gv-n470SO-13I-super...

I know the 460 setup would be faster off the bat, but I gotta tell you that 470 is a monster. I've tried out a few games so far - starcraft 2 runs smooth as silk maxed out. I did that with Fallout 3 too. And just imagine adding another one of these things for SLI (think PSU i recommended )... droool. By the time you'd even need another they'd be cheaper anyway :)  Peopel criticize the 470s for their noise and heat etc but this thing is the exception - again read that review. It's quieter, faster, and cooler and was made of top notch components. The 912 with 5 fans AND this thing is.... quiet.

Anyway, we have the same proc, mobo, HD, and dvd burner. I've got em all rockin and rollin in my new build and this baby is fast fast fast.
October 4, 2010 12:10:44 AM

Thanks muckle!

I took some of your advice and switched to the 850W PSU / ram combo

Also the HAF 912 case, and I bought an extra 120 mm and a 200mm fan for it.

I stuck with my 460 sli's just because these seem like too good a deal.

Coupled with a 21.5 inch Dell U2211H, this should be insane!



Its all ordered... the wait is killing me.

SO STOKED

Thank you all!


I've never done a whole building from start to finish before so we'll see how I do with keeping cables neat and such!
October 4, 2010 3:17:49 AM

Wow,

Your initial build, the one you posted at the beginning of this thread is a lot like the one I'm planing on building. However, i do not want my build to be just for gaming. I plan on doing a lot of video editing, adobe premiere, and after effects, editing AVCHD video, at 1080p.

I was going to start new thread on advice for my build, but the feedback here seems really good and your build is really good. The biggest thing that struck me is that everyone here recommends you to switch to i5 from your i7. I guess for gaming alone i7 is overkill but what about if your also video editing a lot?

Oh keep in mind, I'm from Toronto, Canada. So the prices I'm listing are Canadian dollars. And i'm actually trying to avoid NewEgg as i do not want to have anything shipped. I have some bad experiences with the UPS man coming to my apartment, long story.

Anyhow, here is the build...

CPU = Intel i7 950 3.06ghz...............................$309.99 at NCIX

Mobo = Asus Sabertooth x58...........................$214.99 at Canadacomputers

PSU = Corsair HX 750W....................................$159.99 at Canadacomputers

RAM = Mushkin Blackline 6gb 1600mhz.............$142.00 at Canadacomputers

Case = Coolermaster HAF 922 Mid-ATX.............$89.99 at NCIX

GPU = eVGA GTX 460 756mb.............................$199.99 at Tigerdierct.ca

HDD = WesternDigital Caviar Black 650gb.........$57.99 at NCIX

DVD = ASUS Black 24x........................................$24.99 at NewEgg.ca

Total = 1199.93

I also need to get a heatsink and probably some more fans for the case.

I already have mouse, keyboard, monitor, and also an external 1TB.

So what do you guys think.
October 4, 2010 3:56:13 AM

Well, I don't really know too much about non-gaming builds, or even gaming builds for that matter, but I'll try to help!

1. The consensus seems to be that the Samsung Spinpoint 1 TB is the best hard drive all around, if you are willing to spend a bit more.

2. I think that most games dont take advantage of the hyperthreading that the i7 provides. But I'd imagine most of the applications you use would.

That's all I really know!

As a side note, you may want to start your own thread, just to draw more attention to your needs, but its up to you!

October 4, 2010 11:15:46 AM

thank you,

Would games start taking advantage of it within the years though. and also, if they are not, is it slower on the i7 than the i5 or just the same. I think it would be worth it for me to keep i7 due to faster processing power needed for transcoding HD Video.

Well then, sorry for trying to hijack your thread.

Best of luck,

keep us posted on your progress, and be sure to post pics :) 
October 4, 2010 4:20:25 PM

Oh nonono I wasn't trying to say you were hijacking!

I was merely saying that people who look at this thread will see "1000-1300 gaming pc advice" so the people who may know the most about making a great pc for video editing / multimedia may not stop to read.

Thus, less people seeing your post that could help.

Anyway I'll post pics for sure!
October 5, 2010 2:36:24 AM

I just built a system in your price range actually:
i7 950 got it for $275 promo, but you can also bundle items and save $30-20 Bucks currently $299
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ZOTAC ZT-40404-10P SYNERGY GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB $130 Each with rebate and you can get rebates on both if they SLI capable $260 Total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Patriot Viper II Sector 7 Edition 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 $108 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ700MXSP 700W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V SLI Certified CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Modular Active PFC Power Supply compatible with core i764454966 $65 after rebate

OCZ Vertex 2 OCZSSD2-2VTXE60G 2.5" 60GB SATA II MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)64454966 $125 after rebate
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Haven't picked out a Motherboard yet but I am leaning towards $199 x58 sabertooth like you were. I am just worried about the 2x gtx 460 fitting.

Total price= $1032 after rebate Enough room for case of your choice/cooler/Windows Software ECT.
Don't think you can build much better for cheaper right now
October 11, 2010 3:54:44 PM

Well this threads been dead for awhile.
Whats the deal mr. devil poo

You got your build or what?
October 11, 2010 5:01:47 PM

Oh yes I did!

It went flawlessly overall! Posted and started on the first try!

Few issues I encountered:

1. XFX PSU cables are ultra stiff so my poor cable management became even worse.

2. It was really hard to connect the 2 extra fans I installed to those 4 pin PSU cables ( the big chunky general ones, not the fan connector ones) In the process I broke two of the fan adapters, but the case came with 2 so it worked out.

3. My Dell ultrasharp monitor displays a vertical blue line on the right side of the screen, coupled with backlight bleed through issues means im going to send it back, hopefully the next one will be less defective!

Nothing I have thrown it so far has posed any sort of challenge. Everything is so fast and snappy, it is mindblowing. (although admittedly I've only been playing left4dead, fallout III, DOW II and Dragon Age Origins)

Thank you all! couldnt have done it without the advice!

Ill try to take some pictures tonight.

Now on to overclocking... *shiver*
October 12, 2010 12:20:08 PM

so how do you find the HAF912 case?
Im considering between the 912 and the storm scout or even the 690 II Advanced...not sure what to get though.

any feedback about your case?
October 12, 2010 3:10:49 PM

Well I really like the look of it.

Install was easy, removable drive cage was great because I have no need to mount 5 extra hard drives right now.

Airflow seems wonderful! But it only comes with 2 120mm fans, so I installed a 200mm on top and another 120mm in the front.

Plenty of space behind the mobo for running cables. Some of the XFX cables had huge connectors, and even those fit in the space (although the size does bulge out a bit).

I love it! but i have little experience with the other cases you are considering.

When my girlfriend saw the the HAF 912 she said "WTF its giant" and I responded "you should be glad I didnt get the HAF 922 then!" hahaahhhah
October 12, 2010 5:34:35 PM

I absolutely love the 912 in my new build. I did install extra fans from the start so I couldn't even tell you about the stock cooling. But air flows GREAT. Even in long sessions gaming with my super oc gigabyte 470 the exhaust air is literally cool. Mega spacious interior with fantastic cable management. I hid almost everything. Dust filters, etc. I can't believe the things 60 bucks
!