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September 30, 2010 1:24:01 PM

For work, I’d like to build a robust system for a $10,000 dollar budget revolving every 24 months. The work I’ll do is 20% 3DsMax, 20% Revit, and 60% Autocad Architecture all 2011. You guys seem to be gurus, so your thoughts would be appreciated on the following system?

-Configurable- HP Z800 Workstation Microsoft® Windows®
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HP Z800 Workstation
Genuine Windows 7 Ultimate Edition 64-bit
HP Z800 1110W 89% Efficient Chassis
1 - Intel Xeon X5680 3.33 12MB/1333 6C CPU-1 HIGHPWR (Only supported with 1110 W chassis. )
HP Air Cooling Solution (When choosing this option, a Technical AV - Heatsink MUST be selected)
HP 1x High Perf Heatsink Thermal Kit (This module is required if AIRCOOL is selected. 1st Processor must be high power, greater than 95W. Not supported with two processors. ESTAR=SP)
NVIDIA Quadro 5000 2.5GB Graphics (Vista OS not supported)
NVIDIA Quadro 5000 2.5GB Graphics 2nd (Second graphics must match first graphics. Only supported with 1110 W chassis.)
NVIDIA SLI Graphics connector (Supported only with Dual FX4800 or Dual FX5800. ESTAR=H)
HP 16GB (8x2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC RAM (Supported only with Dual Processor. ESTAR=DP)
HP 160GB SATA X25-M 1st SSD
HP 160GB SATA 7200 2nd HDD (Primary drive must be SATA)
HP 16X DVD+-RW SuperMulti SATA 1st Drive
HP RAID 1 (Mirrored Array) Configuration (All HDDs must be the same size/speed/type. Must have 2 HDDs)
3 years parts, labor and onsite service (3/3/3) standard warranty. Certain restrictions and exclusions apply.
HP Promo LP2475w 24-inch Widescreen LCD Monitor
LSI 3041E 4-Port SAS 3Gb RAID Card

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September 30, 2010 2:25:07 PM

Hahahah!

It looks good to me really...
how about a raid 10 config?

I still think this is a waste of money, new fermi workstation cards are coming in near future. Wait until then ;) 


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September 30, 2010 3:43:25 PM

Mr Pizza -I was planning on using the SSD as my primary and a much slower hard drive of the same size as essentially a back up in case of failure thus a raid 1. Would a raid 10 give me the same level of performance considering that on of the drives is an SSd and the other a HDD. I'm still new to the configuring a workstation thing so thanks for you input. This particular Quadro 5000 is one of the new Fermi Cads. Hope the performance of two 5000 is worth the price.
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September 30, 2010 11:58:09 PM

Well, a RAID 10 is raid 0+1 so you get the safety and speed, you just need 4 hard drives.
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October 1, 2010 2:10:43 PM

Thanks - Looking hard at Raid 10.
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October 1, 2010 2:19:37 PM

all I can say is this computer will be worth a lot more than my car...
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October 1, 2010 3:30:25 PM

You can get far more horsepower if you build it yourself.
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October 1, 2010 3:32:03 PM

ScrewySqrl said:
all I can say is this computer will be worth a lot more than my car...

Same here :) 
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October 1, 2010 3:43:07 PM

What are you working at, the new Freedom Tower with furniture and lighting for every room?
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October 5, 2010 6:58:58 PM

I'm building this machine based on the worst case scenario being a large site plan with around three 3-6 story office buildings with trees and roads. Currently I'm have a hell of a time working with the Dell T3400 we purchased about 3 years ago. This machine has to keep up with the worst case scenario for the next 2 years. With the new Quadro 5000 being used for iray, I'm thinking that I should have pretty good results. my latest thought is two quadro 5000 or one 5000 & one Tesla C2050. I know there will be a benefit in 3DSmax but what about Autocad Arch 2011?
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October 5, 2010 8:35:39 PM

I think you can drop the CPUs to the E5650, anyway even a $5000 modern workstation is much more powerful than that Dell. I don't know much about the Tesla but I don't think you can use that.

Here are some links:

Z800 review:
http://www.cgchannel.com/2010/03/product-review-hp-z800...
monitor reviews:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/hp_lp2475w.htm
http://prad.de/en/monitore/review/2008/review-hp-lp2475...
GPU review:
http://www.vizworld.com/2010/07/benchmarking-nvidias-qu...
Smaller workstation firm (for price comparison)
http://www.titanuscomputers.com/default.asp
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October 6, 2010 2:03:08 PM

I've configured ~10 Civil 3D 2011 workstations so far and what I've found is that the i7-930/950 based systems run much better than the Xeon systems. also, you could always go to the 6000 videocard...I don't think that AutoCAD scales well in SLI as games do...so 2x 5000 cards will not be worth it.
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October 26, 2010 7:36:06 PM

So I got a quote from dell for a machine with the following specs, for $10,000.
Dell Precision 7500 Workstation
dual six core xeon 5680 3.33 GHz
24GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM Memory 1333MHz,12X2G
2 quadro 5000 with sli
256 gig ssd
Windows 7 64 bit

Does anyone have any experience with the Dell 7500 workstation?
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November 11, 2010 2:21:18 AM

Looking at the reviews of the HP system... it looks gorgeous -- and I'm not just talking about the specs; look at what people have to say about the engineering of the case, the power supply, the cooling, etc. I'm thinking of getting one myself. :) 

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November 18, 2010 11:08:46 AM

I've purchased the following system for about $10,100. I have about 2 weeks remaining to test the machine before I decide to keep it or send it back for something else. Thanks Dell!

Dell T7500: Windows 7 Ultimate 64-bit, 1110W power supply, 2 - Intel Xeon X5680 3.33 12MB/1333 6C CPU, 2- NVIDIA Quadro 5000 2.5GB Graphics, NVIDIA SLI Graphics connector, 24GB (12x2GB) DDR3-1333 ECC RAM, 250GB SATA SSD, 3 years parts, labor and onsite service (3/3/3) standard warranty

To Clarify, The 20% of the time I use 3dsmax design is the most important of what I will do. Reason, because the designs are sent to prospects for large proposals. I'm talking about buildings that are typically 60-120,000 SF. Every time we get a new prospect that signs on the dotted line, this machine more than pays for itself.

With that said, I'm testing general performance, and rendering on Auotcad & Revit Architecture along with 3dsmax Design, and loving every minute of it. So far I really wish Autocad had general use multi-core functionality, and the new iray feature was implemented within the MR-renderer. Other than that the machine is a rocket. If anyone has a model that they want tested, please pass it on. I'm still new to 3d work environment / rendering thing but anxious to begin.

I'll get back to you after 2 weeks
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