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August 19, 2010 3:25:36 AM

Hey everyone :hello:  ! im brand new to this forum and i love your articles
on testing of graphic cards! But im so confused! Here is my story.
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Im a semi-hardcore gamer.. I play world of warcraft mostly and i would
love to see my fps go higher then 5 in cities :sweat:  (on everything ultra low + 800x600)
I have a pretty old computer+graphic card and i was thinking of getting

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/XFX+-+ATI+RADEON+HD+4650+1G...

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And the powersupply i was going to get was gona be


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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But... ive been doubting if these things will actually work with my system :( 
Some questions are.. Will the powersupply supply enough for the card?
Will my computer be able to even run the card? How am i gona install this powersupply?
What if this all doesnt work and it gets worse?!
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As you see im very distraught! :cry:  :cry: 

Please help me,answer these questions plzzzzz
and if these things wont be compatible! Recomend something else please.
HERE ARE MY SYSTEM SPECS THX IN ADVANCE!
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System Information
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Time of this report: 8/18/2010, 20:15:48
Machine name: ARUSHBAZAEI-PC
Operating System: Windows Vistaâ„¢ Home Basic (6.0, Build 6000) (6000.vista_gdr.100218-0019)
Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 530s
BIOS: Phoenix - AwardBIOS v6.00PG
Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU 2140 @ 1.60GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.6GHz
Memory: 2036MB RAM

Card name: RADEON 9250 (Microsoft Corporation - XDDM)
Manufacturer: ATI Technologies Inc.
Chip type: ATI display adapter (0x5960)
DAC type: Internal DAC(400MHz)

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a c 153 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:40:57 AM

Well for one that price is very high for a 4650. If you're willing to spend that much let me suggest...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Its better then the 4650 and cheaper then what you were going to pay for it.

Using that extra money you can get a good PSU instead of a Cooler Master... Although yours might be good enough for that GPU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Its a little much for what you need but with the mail in rebate its pretty cheap and its a good PSU, will lat you a while.

However what Dell Inspiron do you have? If you have a minitower or slim case your going to need a special PSU and GPU (in which case I would just recommend upgrading the case).
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a c 153 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:42:22 AM

Timop said:
One question to ask, Why do you plan to buy the GPU from bestbuy for $90 when newegg has it for $60 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ,you are getting the PSU from them anyways.

However, that HD4650 wont fit as your 530S only accepts LP cards, nor that PSU.

Id suggest you get this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and use your existing PSU.


Ahh yeah I thought might be the case with case, I wasn't sure.

In which case go with what Timop said (me and him acutally picked the same GPU, his is just low profile for your case).
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August 19, 2010 3:50:58 AM

Timop said:
With that card, just install.

However, Im not sure what Mobo you have and you have PCIe version you have, for security reasons, you might want this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... to avoid PCIe 2.1 problems.



First of all whats "Mobo" and second is there a way i can find out what my PCIe version is ?

oh and is the card you just listed good :D  or is a piece of crap lolz :( 
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August 19, 2010 3:52:38 AM

And doesnt the card require 400watts ? wont i need a new powersupply (which takes us back to the case problem)



if you can recomend me a good case that will fit the PSU tell me
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:54:31 AM

No, 55XX card run fine on your PSU(250W)
That card is a good card also, disregard that review, they just sent the wrong LP adapter.
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a c 153 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:55:21 AM

It says it need 400wats but you don't, that 5550 will be good enough without the need to upgrade anything else.

Mobo stands for motherboard.

Are you sure thats a LP case though? I saw some Inspiron 530's that looked normal to me..

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Desktop-Inspiron-530/dp/B002...
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August 19, 2010 3:57:24 AM

Helltech said:
It says it need 400wats but you don't, that 5550 will be good enough without the need to upgrade anything else.

Mobo stands for motherboard.

Are you sure thats a LP case though? I saw some Inspiron 530's that looked normal to me..

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Desktop-Inspiron-530/dp/B002...


that case is not what i have .. looks like i have some kind of slim one....

OK so im good ? WOOO HOOOOOOOOO.. all i have to do is buy that card and install it right ?


( Oh yea that guys review on the card freaked me out kinda >.>)
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:58:17 AM

Helltech said:
It says it need 400wats but you don't, that 5550 will be good enough without the need to upgrade anything else.

Mobo stands for motherboard.

Are you sure thats a LP case though? I saw some Inspiron 530's that looked normal to me..

http://www.amazon.com/Dell-Desktop-Inspiron-530/dp/B002...

he has the Inspiron 530s, s for slim.

Quote:
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 530s

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a c 153 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 4:02:56 AM

Timop said:
he has the Inspiron 530s, s for slim.

Quote:
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.
System Model: Inspiron 530s


Doh! I guess I'm not paying attention tonight on anything. :lol: 

So yes, go with the last card Timop suggested it will be fine for you, you will not have to do anything except plug it in and install the drivers. As in no need for a PSU upgrade or case upgrade.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 7:02:30 AM

The OP currently has a Radeon 9250 which is either a PCI or AGP card, it might be worth determining whether or not a PCIe slot is even available before recommending such cards.
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 2:44:38 PM

Mousemonkey said:
The OP currently has a Radeon 9250 which is either a PCI or AGP card, it might be worth determining whether or not a PCIe slot is even available before recommending such cards.

It says on the dell website:
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Expansion Slots
PCI: 2 Slots
PCIe x1: 1 Slot
PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slots
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 2:58:48 PM

Timop said:
It says on the dell website:
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Expansion Slots
PCI: 2 Slots
PCIe x1: 1 Slot
PCIe x16 (Graphics): 1 Slots

It could well be a PCI version the OP has but if it's an AGP one...
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a b U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:00:39 PM

Mousemonkey said:
It could well be a PCI version the OP has but if it's an AGP one...

Maybe a pic of the Mobo?
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 3:04:26 PM

Timop said:
Maybe a pic of the Mobo?

Or a screenshot of the mainboard tab from CPUz.
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August 19, 2010 5:04:50 PM

meh... im willing to just keep it simple :D  .. How much of a difference will ther be from my 9250 to Radeon HD 5550 1GB ?
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 5:12:31 PM

xmuzzyx1 said:
meh... im willing to just keep it simple :D  .. How much of a difference will ther be from my 9250 to Radeon HD 5550 1GB ?

Are you sure you have a PCIe slot for the card to be put in?
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August 19, 2010 8:11:28 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Are you sure you have a PCIe slot for the card to be put in?



No lol :D  . How do i check?
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 8:21:06 PM

Download and run CPUz and take a look at the mainboard tab.
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August 19, 2010 8:35:00 PM

ok well.. im looking at tab here is what it says


Model: 0RY007 yyy
chipset : intel P35/G33/G31 Rev. A2
southbridge: intel 82801IR (ICH9R)
LPCIO: ITE IT8718 (i dont know if its IT8718 or a lower case L)

BIOS

Brand: Dell Inc.
Version 1.0.3
Date 07/12/2007
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 8:48:05 PM

It's the bit that states the graphic interface that we're interested in.

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August 19, 2010 10:25:31 PM

no such thing.... thers no graphic interface its greyed out..
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 19, 2010 10:33:13 PM

You could try GPUz to see what your current card is but I'm wondering if you have an IGP and no slots whatsoever.
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August 20, 2010 1:02:39 AM




Thers my GPU.
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August 20, 2010 1:05:14 AM

Seriously bro? Do i need to do this stuff? I thot the other guys said im good just buy

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

install it and your good.......

thats what they said.. can i live with that card. Or do i need to do what your telling me to so i
it will work?
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August 20, 2010 1:17:21 AM




here is of my radeon 9250
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 1:23:08 AM

Hes doing this so he could be sure you have a PCIe slot.
Was the 9250 added in by you?

If you can, just open up the case and take a pic, But I'm almost sure you'll be fine with that 5550.
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August 20, 2010 1:27:51 AM

Timop said:
Hes doing this so he could be sure you have a PCIe slot.
Was the 9250 added in by you?

If you can, just open up the case and take a pic, But I'm almost sure you'll be fine with that 5550.


No actually i dont know who did it ... my dad usually buys the crappiest stuff ever so
this time im taking matters into my own hands....

Ill see if i can take a picture..... as soon as figure out how to open this thing -_-
:sweat: 
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August 20, 2010 1:28:31 AM

i dont even see a screw hole on this ..
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 3:09:29 AM

I think those Dells have spring loaded latches for the side panels, no screws, just find the release.

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August 20, 2010 11:46:34 PM

ill do it some time soon.. :D 
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August 21, 2010 4:31:32 AM

some time soon................... (bump)
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a c 153 U Graphics card
August 21, 2010 4:53:12 AM

His bus interface on his GPU-z says PCI, not PCI-e, just pointin that out.
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a c 272 U Graphics card
August 21, 2010 10:25:07 AM

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