I7 950 vs X6 1090T Black

[FatalyFlawed]

Greetings all. O.K. Im new to this so if im causing greif let me know . I will modify my style.

My question is Which platform is best. I can build on either of the 2 CPU's Listed in the thread name for very close to the same money.
I guess you all would need a bit of information to be able to give good advice. So here goes.
Finaly for the first time i have enough (around $3000 AU) to build a worthwhile system. I have had a lot more AMD based platforms in the past than Intel. But i am not committed to or against either of them.
I originally researched and priced an AMD solution purely from the belief that the equivalent Intel option would be significantly more expensive. Turns out that i was wrong, I think!
I live in Perth (west Australia) Which is relevant how you ask? Well going into a shop out here and asking about AMD gets a reaction akin to vomiting on the salesman's desk. That said i did eventualy find a shop (PLE computers) Willing to work with "the other chip company"
It was here that the posability of an Intel System loomed when the guy said he could do a good 17 system for the same cost. Show me i said. He Did
i7 950 , GA-X58A-UD5, 12GB Kingston DDR3 C9 1600mhz, XFX HD5870 850M , Spinpoint F3 1TB ,LG BluRay writer, Corsair 850W PSU , Centurion 690 II, 24" Asus monitor .

 

[cmcghee358]

Just a heads up multiple threads for the same reason falls under the "grief" category.

 

[cmcghee358]

Also filling this out helps us help you!

 

[cmcghee358]

Also 12GB is ridiculously expensive. That guy that told you 12 is a tool, or stupid.

 

[megamanx00]

With that budget it makes more sense to go with the Intel System and overclock it. Going with the 6-core AMD only makes sense if you use alot of programs that will make effective use of 6 cores.

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Best answer selected by FatalyFlawed.

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Just a heads up multiple threads for the same reason falls under the "grief" category.

Yeah well took a look you would see that i already replied to that one.Still there quite a lot to plow through there, so i could see why you wouldn't pay it too much attention. Also i don't entirely think i did post two threads the same. Another user happened to post a thread with the same title on the same day as me. I think that that(sic) is the duplication.
You are right about the memory for sure. I have been doing my own research into this as well 6 gig be plenty. If i go 6gig on that, and delete the BluRay writer i save nearly the cost of a 120gig Revodrive for the O.S. Which is an appealing idea.
It seems to me however that the gpu setup i outlined ( 1 ati 5850 or similar)is nowhere near enough to make use of a i7 950. It looks like crossfire or sli is the only way to use the processors potential. I cant afford two video cards costing $500(+) each in order to be able to play games at the same type of detail as you can get on a consol for less then the price of one gpu .
So i think i might just stick to the consols for games. Use the pc for video and sound file editing.
You know that PC games only account for about 5% of the market these days. The times they are a changing !! Sorry about the grief i may have caused you . Thanks for the heads up about the memory.
yours, Flawed.

 

[FatalyFlawed]

With that budget it makes more sense to go with the Intel System and overclock it. Going with the 6-core AMD only makes sense if you use alot of programs that will make effective use of 6 cores.

Thanks for taking an interest. Could you explain to me a bit about what sort of programs use a lot cores. I thought that it would be video and sound file editing, but i'm not sure what else. I look to the future and think that software writers will make increasingly better use of multiple cores as they inevitably become more and more mainstream.
Thanks ,Flawed.

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Also filling this out helps us help you!

Great way to get a newcomer to close a thread when it's not really been solved. But the memory problem you pointed out was the best answer purely because it saves a chunk of money.
Should i have posted this as a discussion rather than a thread ?
I may be wrongly reading between the lines , but i get the feeling that you are a bit annoyed with me.
If that's the case i am sorry. But you have to start somewhere. Protocols over the net seem a bit strange to me at times. It's very hard to judge the tone of emails and similar items. Maybe its just me who has this trouble.
Flawed.

 

[cmcghee358]

No not really, annoyed, the link I gave is a template to provide us with the information necessary to help you in turn. Which is what I think I said. Dunno.

Also when you said:

Greetings all. O.K. Im new to this so if im causing greif let me know

and I said:

Just a heads up multiple threads for the same reason falls under the "grief" category.

How did you manage to get butt-hurt over that?

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Hey cmcghee358 I'm not "butt hurt". Just unsure. And i got it wrong by the looks of things. Apologies tendered.
As i said the other thread as far as i can tell was coincidentally put up by another user, with the same title and on the same date as mine.
I did end up posting a half written thread first off by mistake. But i got a message back saying it hadn't been accepted, due to it being poorly written or similar, I hit a button to confirm mass delete and started again.
So I am pleased that i hadn't annoyed you .
And, point taken.
I did ask to be told if i was "causing grief"
Put it down to my paranoia. Case closed ? I hope no harm done.
Thanks for your input. I pretty sure i will go for an intel system. But i will be tweaking the specs a bit to try and get a more balanced platform. Good article on Toms in 4 parts that i have been reading up on covering that. I suppose all the information i need is probably to be found on these pages. Just hoping to shortcut it a bit by asking for info on the forum. Being a bit lazy i guess.
Finally, showing my total lack of knowledge, how does your link form a template? Where does it link to ?
Thanks.
Flawed.

 

[cmcghee358]

Just to settle the debate:

You posted: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296192-31-phenom-1090t-black @ 4:32:28 AM

and then posted: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296188-31-1090t-black @ 3:21:27 AM

So as you can see, two threads started within 1 hour of each other on the same day with the same text.

So yes, I was informing you that posting 2 of the exact same threads would be classified as spamming, therefore griefing.

 

[cmcghee358]

Also if you clicked the "link" I made it is pretty self explanantory on how to do the template.

Cheers.

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Just to settle the debate:

You posted: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296192-31-phenom-1090t-black @ 4:32:28 AM

and then posted: http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/296188-31-1090t-black @ 3:21:27 AM

So as you can see, two threads started within 1 hour of each other on the same day with the same text.

So yes, I was informing you that posting 2 of the exact same threads would be classified as spamming, therefore griefing.

O.K. Now you've been good enough to point the way to the links i see that each one is like 1/2 of the post i intended to put up. Don't know how i managed that. But i have a knack for chaos!
The unfortunate thing is that if you read either 1/2 of the post it's missing relevant info for anyone to be able to give a good answer and doesn;t really make total sense!(as i am sure you, and others noticed.)
Funny thing is, when i pull the thread up on my pc at the forum it shows as one complete posting on my screen, not two 1/2 posts.
And I get a contiguous list of posts, everyone of which i have replied to. It would probably be best if the whole thing was removed and i started again. I would be happy to do that . But i'm not sure if that's the normal thing to do , or how to do it. "Cos spam is something that really gives me "butt hurts". So I wouldn't want to be involved in propagating it. And I see your point.
Can the thread be terminated?
Flawed

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Also if you clicked the "link" I made it is pretty self explanantory on how to do the template.

Cheers.

O.K. I had not noticed that the word "this" was your link. I just gave it a look and i will try and follow your advice to the best of my ability. I have already done a fair bit of reading up on this site and others. But starting from such a poor knowledge base ... Well i have some more reading to do.
Give us a few days i will get my act together and try again. Using your template.
Yours.
Flawed.

 

[cmcghee358]

Well I'm glad everything worked out, I hope I didn't turn you off to tomshardware.com, it wasn't my intention.

Whatever happens enjoy your new build

 

[FatalyFlawed]

Thanks, cmcghee358.
Haven't put me off. I look at a few sites similar to this ,and "Toms" seems the most assessable /useful/ freindly one .
I confess to not understanding a deal of what i read here. It's difficult playing catchup with something that evolves so quickly.
It's just been a bit hard for me to work out how to use this site, and work out better ways to use the forum. I will admit to being a bit cack handed with this sort of stuff. I always have been. I don't have any intuitive grasp of this kind of technology.If there's a way of doing it wrong i will, inevitably, it seems find it .
Although i don't consider myself a to be fool. I often flounder over relatively simple tasks when they are web / IT type things.
That said, me getting a powerful computer is possibly akin to a small child getting an AK47 for Christmas!! Lets hope that I use the potential "only for good" ho, ho, . bye now.
Flawed.