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Time to upgrade my 4850?

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August 19, 2010 6:55:05 PM

I have been using my HIS Iceq4 TurboX 512MB graphics card for about two years now. I have been very pleased with it but I'm starting to think that it's about time to reach into my wallet and upgrade it.

My current rig:
cpu: e5200 at 3.6ghz
motherboard: gigabyte ep45-ud3r
psu: antec 650w neopower blue
ram: 2x2gb 800mhz gskill
ssd: intel x25-v 40gb
hdd: 320gb western digital 7200rpm
case: cm690
monitor: 19" hanns-g 1440x900
os: Windows 7 home premium 64bit

I play games like Bad company 2, Tf2, l4d2.
I'm trying to get ready for civilization 5 so I was thinking I should upgrade to a card with faster memory and a faster processor. I want to spend only about $150 so I was thinking of getting a 5770 and try it out on dx11.

I was wondering if it is worth upgrading at this time, my resolution is only at 1440x900 so I don't need a really expensive card and I have no plans to use crossfire/sli.

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August 19, 2010 7:03:37 PM

the 5770 performs similar to a 4870, so unless you're wiling to pay a bit more than that, upgrading would not be worth the money right now. also, for your resolution, i highly doubt you'll need to upgrade for a while.
if i were you i'd wait for the 6000 series or the next batch of fermi's.
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August 19, 2010 7:08:28 PM

5770 supports drx11, but in real world games the card sometimes is not powerful enough to deliver playable frame-rates (depends on resolution and in what games). i would recommend gettin nvidia gtx 460 or ati 5830.

I think you can squeeze another year of your cpu, the e5xxx are nice flexible OC chips.

some comparisons:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/177?vs=172

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August 19, 2010 7:09:18 PM

For BC2, You'd be better off with a CPU, it one of the games that can use quad nicely.

Especially at your resolution, Id say just stay with the 4850 and maybe do a light OC while getting a CPU upgrade.

Finally, the Gskill RAM should go higher like around 1000MHz, have you tried OCing them?
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August 20, 2010 9:46:23 AM

jimishtar said:
5770 supports drx11, but in real world games the card sometimes is not powerful enough to deliver playable frame-rates (depends on resolution and in what games). i would recommend gettin nvidia gtx 460 or ati 5830.

I think you can squeeze another year of your cpu, the e5xxx are nice flexible OC chips.

some comparisons:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/177?vs=172


Please tell me how will HD 4850 will perform in DX 11 games in comparison to HD 5770. As later one has Dx 11 capability.
If one go to purchase graphic card today in mid range which will be better 4850 or 5770
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August 20, 2010 2:35:41 PM

Here is a good compasion (4750 not included but would be less than 4770 and 5770. and As above post stated , 4750/70 do not support Dx11
Here is a good compasion
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19242/13

5770 is only one I'd recommend at price point and will beat 4850 plus bonus of DX11 support.
For extra $50
Ati 5830 or GTX 460, Both beat 5770 (and wallup 4850) with the edge going to the 460, but 460 also uses about 40 watts more power.

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August 23, 2010 5:02:55 AM

RetiredChief said:
Here is a good compasion (4750 not included but would be less than 4770 and 5770. and As above post stated , 4750/70 do not support Dx11
Here is a good compasion
http://www.techreport.com/articles.x/19242/13

5770 is only one I'd recommend at price point and will beat 4850 plus bonus of DX11 support.
For extra $50
Ati 5830 or GTX 460, Both beat 5770 (and wallup 4850) with the edge going to the 460, but 460 also uses about 40 watts more power.


I want to know can DX 11.0 games can be played with GPU having only Dx 10 capabilities.
Many new GPU have dx 11 but are costly. so if someone stuck with DX 10 Gpu whats the harm
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August 23, 2010 7:35:42 AM

digvijaysingh said:
I want to know can DX 11.0 games can be played with GPU having only Dx 10 capabilities.
Many new GPU have dx 11 but are costly. so if someone stuck with DX 10 Gpu whats the harm


Yes a game that has dx11 will also play in dx10. There isn't any harm to it at all, just might be missing on the eye candy that comes with it.

I'm running 2 4850s and have yet to see a true ceiling with the graphics cards. I've seen it more with my processor (9850).

If your looking for something in your price range i would look towards the 5770.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

its got enough bang for the buck. However if your looking for a longer lasting card i would look towards a 5830 or even a 5850 if your willing to save for a bit for the cost of one of those cards.

5830
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

5850
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

there is always a card from the green camp that i've heard a lot of good things about is the gtx 460. About the same price range as the 5830-5850 with similar performance.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...(Fermi)

Hope this helps you out.
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August 23, 2010 3:31:05 PM

digvijaysingh said:
I want to know can DX 11.0 games can be played with GPU having only Dx 10 capabilities.
Many new GPU have dx 11 but are costly. so if someone stuck with DX 10 Gpu whats the harm


At the moment there are no DX11 exclusive games. Therefore, you are not required to purchase a DX11 card in order to play current games or gaming coming out in the next couple of years. In my opinion, games will still be playable on DX10 cards when DX12 is release; however DX9 should be dead by then.

Additionally, not all DX11 games actually add any additional effects to the game, just DX11 coding which seems to cause games to take a performance hit. Just Google Resident Evil 5 and Devil May Cry 4. They are actually just DX9 games since there are no visual differences between DX9 and DX11 modes, but in DX11 mode there is a noticeable performance hit. The developers of RE5 openly confirmed this fact while the developers of DMC4 is keeping their mouths shut.


Additionally, upgrading from a HD 4850 to a HD 5770 is not worth it. The increase in performance for DX9 and DX10 games is not justified by the amount you spend. I am not sure what the performance hit is going from DX10 to DX11.
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August 25, 2010 6:37:22 AM

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At the moment there are no DX11 exclusive games. Therefore, you are not required to purchase a DX11 card in order to play current games or gaming coming out in the next couple of years. In my opinion, games will still be playable on DX10 cards when DX12 is release; however DX9 should be dead by then.

Additionally, not all DX11 games actually add any additional effects to the game, just DX11 coding which seems to cause games to take a performance hit. Just Google Resident Evil 5 and Devil May Cry 4. They are actually just DX9 games since there are no visual differences between DX9 and DX11 modes, but in DX11 mode there is a noticeable performance hit. The developers of RE5 openly confirmed this fact while the developers of DMC4 is keeping their mouths shut.


Additionally, upgrading from a HD 4850 to a HD 5770 is not worth it. The increase in performance for DX9 and DX10 games is not justified by the amount you spend. I am not sure what the performance hit is going from DX10 to DX11.[/quotemsg

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