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Raid 5 terrible write speeds with ICH10R controller in windows 8

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January 11, 2013 10:43:47 AM

Hello,
I have just created a RAID 5 array of 5 2TB Drives (Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS) Using the onboard ICH10R controller on my Asus p6x58d-e motherboard.
The write speed to the array is extremely low (~6MBps) and the read speed is also terrible (50 MBps).
As Far as I know this is not normal, I should be getting read/write speeds greater than that of the single drives (which used to write at ~80MBps by themselves). I have looked over other people's similar problems, but none of them helped me.
I am left wondering whether it is that my RAID controller is crappy, or perhaps a driver issue as I have just installed Windows 8, and the p6x58d-e has no official drivers for it...
Suggestions Please?
January 11, 2013 11:50:28 AM

I just checked the intel site and all of their boards using the X58 chipset none of them have drivers available, such as the IRST version 10.1.0.1008 that is available for WIN7.

Try this intel tool http://www.intel.com/support/Win8.htm

You could also try running a win7 driver to see what happens. I've do so with raid drivers and had some success.
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January 11, 2013 7:35:02 PM

I tryed running the win7 driver it just says that the operating systems don't match. Oh also at the start of a file transfer, for the first 5 seconds or so it gets ~130 MBps before dropping. If that helps...
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January 11, 2013 7:53:18 PM

t53186 said:
I just checked the intel site and all of their boards using the X58 chipset none of them have drivers available, such as the IRST version 10.1.0.1008 that is available for WIN7.

Try this intel tool http://www.intel.com/support/Win8.htm

You could also try running a win7 driver to see what happens. I've do so with raid drivers and had some success.


I Downloaded the new RAID driver that your link got me, the Intel Control Center told me that the Array was still only 30% Initialized, which would probably be what is causing the slow speeds.

I'll wait for it to finish and then try again, thanks very much for your help.
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January 11, 2013 10:14:55 PM

gingavitis said:
Hello,
I have just created a RAID 5 array of 5 2TB Drives (Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS) Using the onboard ICH10R controller on my Asus p6x58d-e motherboard.
The write speed to the array is extremely low (~6MBps) and the read speed is also terrible (50 MBps).
As Far as I know this is not normal, I should be getting read/write speeds greater than that of the single drives (which used to write at ~80MBps by themselves). I have looked over other people's similar problems, but none of them helped me.
I am left wondering whether it is that my RAID controller is crappy, or perhaps a driver issue as I have just installed Windows 8, and the p6x58d-e has no official drivers for it...
Suggestions Please?


Why in the world ! That you want to use the fake RAID5 (software)
Get a SPM393 like i do and never look back
http://www.amazon.com/multiplier-hardware-RAID0-CLONE-C...
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January 11, 2013 11:07:46 PM

FireWire2 said:
Why in the world ! That you want to use the fake RAID5 (software)
Get a SPM393 like i do and never look back
http://www.amazon.com/multiplier-hardware-RAID0-CLONE-C...


For the purposes of conversation lets just assume that computer hardware in New Zealand (Where I Live) is all imported and therefore more expensive than in America, and I don't have the money lying around, hmm?
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January 11, 2013 11:24:28 PM

gingavitis said:
I Downloaded the new RAID driver that your link got me, the Intel Control Center told me that the Array was still only 30% Initialized, which would probably be what is causing the slow speeds.

I'll wait for it to finish and then try again, thanks very much for your help.


If it's still initializing, that is definitely why your performance is so low. Another thing to try is to enable write caching which will significantly improve the write performance. I'm not 100% sure how you do that on your motherboard, but I think it is done through the RAID software.
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January 12, 2013 10:27:07 PM

Finished Initializing, now getting ~17 MBps. Better, but still pretty ***, any other suggestions?
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June 2, 2013 12:19:37 PM

gingavitis said:
Finished Initializing, now getting ~17 MBps. Better, but still pretty ***, any other suggestions?


Did you ever find a solution to this issue? I'm having pretty much the exact same issue, though I have 4 2TB drives. I've updated drivers and BIOS.
Thanks.
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September 6, 2013 5:48:59 PM

use strip size 32k and allocated block size 32k .i personally got 200MB/sec read and 170MB/sec write performance on my dell c1100 server with 4X500GB sata 7200 HDD in raid 5 formation on ich10r controller

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September 9, 2013 3:49:57 PM

Read/Write Random is that what you need, not in sequential, cuz real life, application very rare that you encounter sequential read/write.
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September 28, 2013 8:16:31 AM

gingavitis said:
Hello,
I have just created a RAID 5 array of 5 2TB Drives (Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS) Using the onboard ICH10R controller on my Asus p6x58d-e motherboard.
The write speed to the array is extremely low (~6MBps) and the read speed is also terrible (50 MBps).
As Far as I know this is not normal, I should be getting read/write speeds greater than that of the single drives (which used to write at ~80MBps by themselves). I have looked over other people's similar problems, but none of them helped me.
I am left wondering whether it is that my RAID controller is crappy, or perhaps a driver issue as I have just installed Windows 8, and the p6x58d-e has no official drivers for it...
Suggestions Please?


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September 28, 2013 11:26:49 AM

Durell Lewis said:
gingavitis said:
Hello,
I have just created a RAID 5 array of 5 2TB Drives (Western Digital AV-GP WD20EURS) Using the onboard ICH10R controller on my Asus p6x58d-e motherboard.
The write speed to the array is extremely low (~6MBps) and the read speed is also terrible (50 MBps).
As Far as I know this is not normal, I should be getting read/write speeds greater than that of the single drives (which used to write at ~80MBps by themselves). I have looked over other people's similar problems, but none of them helped me.
I am left wondering whether it is that my RAID controller is crappy, or perhaps a driver issue as I have just installed Windows 8, and the p6x58d-e has no official drivers for it...
Suggestions Please?




Few things...
a. write back cache? i asked about it before
b. in intel rst app make sure that you have no errors, the array is initialized etc...
c. your speeds are normal for array during rebuild, verification or initialization processes.
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September 30, 2013 2:38:40 AM

I am struggling I also have an ICH10R raid controller and since upgrading from Windows 7 to windows 8 i no longer have a RAID array according to the OS. My raid is setup from bios, but nothing in Windows 8.

RST software doesnt work as not compatible. How do i get my raid to show in Windows 8?

Any assistance appreciated.
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September 30, 2013 9:03:40 AM

networklon said:
I am struggling I also have an ICH10R raid controller and since upgrading from Windows 7 to windows 8 i no longer have a RAID array according to the OS. My raid is setup from bios, but nothing in Windows 8.

RST software doesnt work as not compatible. How do i get my raid to show in Windows 8?

Any assistance appreciated.


Go to MB manufacture, download the latest RAID drivers, or go to Intel find the latest RAID drivers from your ICH10R, to see would that help!

Next time, use drivers-less hardware raid like:
SPM393 - http://www.amazon.com/multiplier-hardware-RAID0-CLONE-C...
SPM394 - http://www.amazon.com/Port-Multiplier-SATA-hardware-con...

then you can update OS anytime without worry about incompatible and data-lost
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September 30, 2013 1:42:20 PM

Once again...
Intel ICH's do not support Port Multiplication so both those devices would need an Add in Card which does to be of any use.
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September 30, 2013 4:29:35 PM

How about you read the devices descriptions. PORT MULTIPLIER is clearly written on both and a quick google search will reveal that intel stopped supporting PM as it conflicts with their RST.

As for not needing drivers... no duh! Its a port multiplier device.

Why anyone would spend a $100 on something like this to end up max'd at 250mb/s is beyond me when you can buy a real raid card for the same price and completely obliterate these specs. This device may have been useful 10 years ago but today.... not.
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September 30, 2013 5:40:30 PM

Not like you, I do not need to read those. I know the device, because I have used over 20's of them
Have you?
You are a cheapskate, trying to get 2x SPM394 as freebies, WTF?!


Do you see my 40TB freeNAS with 20x 2TB HDDs connect to four SPM394
Each controls 5x drives and connects to a SATA port of SuperMicro board, total of four ports being used,

Where is the add card that you said it needs?

Talking about reading, have you read the page from the manufacture:
http://www.datoptic.com/ec/esata-hardware-raid-controll...

******
SPM394 - Key Features
- 5x SATA drives as raid levels: 0 / 1 / 3 / 5 / 10 / JBoD / CLONE with eSATA connections
- Support SATA host with or without Port Multiplier ware
- LCD display for easy control and management
- Built-in high performance RAID storage processor, PROM and SRAM for RAID engines
- Supports Raid volume greater than 2.0 Tera Bytes drives
- Up to 3.0Gbps transfer rate (eSATA) with fast rebuilt Raid engine
*******

Make sure you are knowing what you're talking about, research. Otherwise really shows the ignorance of yours


Talk is cheap. Show me a REAL RAID card that you are talking about,
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when you can buy a real raid card for the same price
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September 30, 2013 5:45:36 PM

FYI , I'm collecting partd to build a WHS with PLEX, and use the the same low cost component

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As for not needing drivers... no duh! Its a port multiplier device.
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If that is the case, then ANY SATA port should work with PM, cause there is no driver needing - DUH - you just show your ignorance
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September 30, 2013 7:03:36 PM

I'm afraid you are the one showing your ignorance and favoritism toward this product. Just go ahead and keep enjoying you slow y2k speeds.

Alas, please review your link again.
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Hardware RAID5 SATA Port Multiplier Controller with LCD Module - SPM394

is mentioned at least twice in the description alone ....

Also, I asked for a reveiw unit so you could prove me wrong once and for all, which you graciously declined. I wouldn't keep it <shock> and give up my 840MB/s raid? LMAO!

And then trying to show off a build on a Supermicro server board with a built in LSI/c600 series controller... pathetic attempt to coverup or maybe fool unaware users. I did say Intel ICH does not support Port Multiplier.

Lastly your comment about no drivers really speaks to me. LOL - Its your PM device that doesn't need drivers... Windows loads the sata port drivers at bootup. <shakes head sadly>
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October 1, 2013 11:06:58 AM

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And then trying to show off a build on a Supermicro server board with a built in LSI/c600 series controller... pathetic attempt to coverup or maybe fool unaware users. I did say Intel ICH does not support Port Multiplier.,


the image posted is the Supermicro server with LSI/c600?!!! What Dumb As!! You are beyond ignorance!!!

Where the hell is Supermicro server with LSI/c600 in form factor of miniITX?!!

The board is SuperMicro ITX Mobo X7SPA-O - where is LSI/C600


I'm favor this controller? Yes I'm.
- It's cheap and effective for small business and home use
- Can just plug into ANY eSAT/SATA port and see my RAID
- No drivers, no incompatible to worry about
- Work with ANY OS: Openfiler, OpenSAMBA, FreeNAS, Windows, VMware, MAC OS, Unix, Linux, Red HAT...
- It's more 200MB/s transfer speed

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Also, I asked for a reveiw unit so you could prove me wrong once and for all, which you graciously declined.

What drug are you using? or you are that retard?!! Why in the word I send you these controllers?!!! :pt1cable: 
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November 4, 2013 7:28:07 AM

gingavitis said:
Finished Initializing, now getting ~17 MBps. Better, but still pretty ***, any other suggestions?


How is this issue going? I just build a HTPC with 5x3TB WD RED disks.. I get just fine performance the first few seconds of a transfer is this setup. Running windows 8 with software raid5.
The transfer-rate then drops to 13-18MB/sec. Quite stable - but slow. Any suggestions as to what might be causing this?
/Jim
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November 4, 2013 3:06:31 PM

Did you try the LATEST RAID drivers? Disable NCQ?
If the answer is yes... then there is pretty much nothing you can do - you got a lemon raid engine.

BTW you should not care about sequential read/write results, test the random read/write transfer rate

These numbers will tell whether you can stream BD.ISO or not... It needs about 8MB/s per BD stream

If you can not get 8MB/s in random mode, look at the Hardware RAID5 solution solution
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November 4, 2013 4:53:44 PM

Here's a link to the latest intel RST drivers. Perhaps they'll help. In the future please create a new thread for your problem rather than in someone else's 'Problem' thread. You can always link back here and say your problem is just like this one.
Thanks
:-)

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y...(Intel%C2%AE+RST)&lang=eng
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November 6, 2013 11:13:47 PM

gingavitis said:
Finished Initializing, now getting ~17 MBps. Better, but still pretty ***, any other suggestions?


popatim said:
Here's a link to the latest intel RST drivers. Perhaps they'll help. In the future please create a new thread for your problem rather than in someone else's 'Problem' thread. You can always link back here and say your problem is just like this one.
Thanks
:-)

https://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y...(Intel%C2%AE+RST)&lang=eng


Thanks both of you.. question though. I can't see this "Intel Rapid Storage" stuff in my device manager.. sorry for coming of as a newbie - but how can I make sure that this wont mess up my raid setup? I mean.. I'm just using the Windows8 RAID option. Will this "Intel® Rapid Storage Technology (Intel® RST) RAID Driver" update affect my system at all? Or is it ment for hardware raid controllers?
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