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GTX 460 or ATI 5770?

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August 20, 2010 3:41:39 AM

Hey, all,

I posted once before when trying to choose between a couple of different 5770 cards, but I recently started looking at the Nvidia side of things and was thinking about that it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw a bit more money in to a card.

I currently have a system with a Phenom II 955, MSI 790 mobo, OCZ RAM (2x2gb), and 750w Antec TP power supply. Also, I have a 23" monitor with a max resolution of 1920x1080.

The 5770 that I was set on is the following:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The 460 that I have been checking out is also an MSI:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

My only concern is that I have read about the bottleneck that could occur using a 460 if using anything less than an i7. With my current hardware in mind, would it make sense to spend an extra 50 bucks for the Nvidia card? Would I see a significant increase in performance using the above mentioned setup? Also, I am far from a hardcore gamer, but would like a card that runs the few that I do play at a high framerate, resolution, and details. Final note, I am at about 50c idle already, so max temps are a consideration, since I am running a bit hot already.

Thanks for any help with this. I'll probably be picking the card up early next month after payday.

Brandon

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a c 189 U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 6:35:25 AM

nah, don't worry about that bottleneck, just OC your cpu a little bit, let's say 3.0GHz and you're good to go...
GTX460 is better so go for it, it will good for 23" monitor. :) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 6:58:05 AM

The 460 is more powerful, so if you are willing to spend extra it's the obvious choice. The 955 is good enough to cope cope with it.
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a c 190 U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 7:40:47 AM

I doubt you'll see any restriction with a GTX460, the PII 955 is far from a slouch, besides, the HD5770 starts to struggle at that resolution so the faster card is by far the best way to go.
That temperature-If it's for the CPU it sounds far too high at idle, even with a stock cooler and needs to be sorted quickly or you run the risk of frying it when loaded.
If the high CPU temperature is because the system is in a small case with limited airflow I'd advise you to go for a stock GTX460, unlike the MSI card you linked to, the stock cooler exhausts its heat out of the case.
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 8:38:24 AM

Yeah that x4 955 is sure enough for a GTX460. The PSU is great as well. You're good to go.
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August 20, 2010 9:04:14 AM

Thanks for your responses! What are your thoughts between these two 460's?

Asus
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Zotac (when does the Amp! version hit stores???)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductReview.aspx?Item=N...

They both have the full shroud, so that might be a better option for me in keeping the temp down. Also, I plan on getting a couple addt'l case fans (Scythe GT), so hopefully that will balance everything out, at the least.
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 9:43:58 AM

I'd say get the ASUS.
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 9:57:21 AM

Like everyone the GTX460 is the best choice. Umm of those the Asus CuCore seems to be the better choice. From experience of Asus's 5850 CuCore's they cool and have a much larger OC headroom. So the Asus would be my choice to go.
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August 20, 2010 5:04:30 PM

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Why would your choices be limited to 2 cards that are not even in the same price bracket??

I'm guessing that you are referring to my initial question deciding between the 5770 and the 640? Since I am only a casual gamer, I had decided to go with a sub $200 card, and the 5770's seemed to fit the bill for a good card in that range. With all of the talk with the 640's I decided to check in to those and figured I could swing a few more bucks for a card that delivers performance comparable to some of the 5800 series cards. I was concerned about any potential bottleneck with my setup and core temps, so I came here to see if it was a worthy jump.

I'm open to any suggestions if those 2 cards pale to another. Those were just the 2 that I picked up on in looking around late last night... perhaps my judgement was clouded from a lack of sleep. Any suggestions? Also, anyone know when the Zotac 640 Amp! will be available for purchase?
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August 20, 2010 5:14:51 PM

I think zipzoomflyhigh was saying you should be comparing the 5830 and the 460 if you are willing to spend $200.
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 5:15:39 PM

Another vote for the Asus GTX 460 1Gb.
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August 20, 2010 5:24:40 PM

Andon48 said:
I think zipzoomflyhigh was saying you should be comparing the 5830 and the 460 if you are willing to spend $200.

I wasn't considering the 5830 only because I have read that in many situations the 640 will out perform the 5830 and even the 5850 once in a while. Based on that information, since the 5850 cards average over $300, a 640 seemed to be the best option for the money. Anyone agree? Disagree?
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 5:30:47 PM

brandoncatz said:
I wasn't considering the 5830 only because I have read that in many situations the 640 will out perform the 5830 and even the 5850 once in a while. Based on that information, since the 5850 cards average over $300, a 640 seemed to be the best option for the money. Anyone agree? Disagree?


That's GTX460, not a GTX640:D 

I agree for the GTX460. Really a great card for the money.
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 5:37:02 PM

the price gap is not much considering you can get a 5850 for 270.00$ and a 1Gb 460 for 230.00$, basically a 40.00$ difference.
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August 20, 2010 5:37:38 PM

unknown_13 said:
That's GTX460, not a GTX640:D 

I agree for the GTX460. Really a great card for the money.

Like a dummy I did that a few times last night and every time Google was like "did you mean...?". My fingers and/or brain are working against me! :pt1cable: 
Thanks for the feedback and the punch in the arm. :lol: 
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August 20, 2010 5:47:27 PM

OvrClkr, I totally get what you're saying, and although it is only an extra $40 from where I am at now, it is almost $100 more than I was initially planning to spend. And with me being a furloughed CA state employee, I don't know if I want to throw another 40 bucks down, since I was already questioning the cost jump to the 460. Also, it looks like the 460 often compares or is just under the 5850 in a lot of tests. Unfortunately, the major factor in my decision will come down to cost (as it does for many), so I gotta stick to my budget.
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 6:13:31 PM

Brandon, does your motherboard support Crossfire or SLI?

That CPU will not bottleneck either crossfired 5850's or SLI'd GTX 460's so i would shoot for what your motherboard supports and then save up for a twin... :) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 6:15:13 PM

brandoncatz said:
OvrClkr, I totally get what you're saying, and although it is only an extra $40 from where I am at now, it is almost $100 more than I was initially planning to spend. And with me being a furloughed CA state employee, I don't know if I want to throw another 40 bucks down, since I was already questioning the cost jump to the 460. Also, it looks like the 460 often compares or is just under the 5850 in a lot of tests. Unfortunately, the major factor in my decision will come down to cost (as it does for many), so I gotta stick to my budget.


I was not recommending the 5850, I was just giving you an example of the price difference. Of course the 270.00$ 5850 is the XFX with the egg cooler which is crap IMO. If we were to compare the best 460 with the best 5850 the price difference jumps to 70.00$


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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 6:21:28 PM

if he has a GD70 its CF only, not sure if he is aware of that..
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a b U Graphics card
August 20, 2010 7:25:40 PM

Actually the HIS iCooler V is a great card as a 5850 plus is one of the cheaper 5850's. But it is a 60$, the XFX cards although using reference design still a great. I know that because I'm using a reference design Diamond 5850 and since your board can only handle CF a single 5850 is a beast unmatched. XD (Over exaggerating) But it can be OC'd to perform at the level of a 5870 (It is actually pretty easy to OC it to a 5870 performance) :D  Saving you 100$ sum dollars.
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August 21, 2010 1:36:20 AM

Ya, the board supports CF, and it has an IGP with the R3300 chipset (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...). I was content using that for a while, since it gave me the 1080p signal to my monitor and I could play some newer games at lower settings, but now it seems that any games that I install won't run even at the lowest settings. I'm guessing no one here has ever tried to play Just Cause 2 on an IGP, but I couldn't even get thru the opening scene on the lowest res and settings.

I've thought about dual cards, but with as little gaming as I do, I can't imagine that I would ever go that route. In a couple years when I am ready for a new vid card I'll just sell mine, if I can, and upgrade.
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a b U Graphics card
August 21, 2010 4:04:15 AM

Which is my thought, I don't do intense gaming an a 5850 is good enough. Not to mention you can pretty much OC it to a 5870 and run fine. Plus it'll give you a lot of headroom playing on 1680x1050 which is the standard res size nowa days. XD So yeah. But it is your choice after all.
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August 21, 2010 5:13:23 PM

Thanks for all the info, everyone! I'm going with the gtx460, but haven't zeroed in on a particular card, yet. So many choices. Started looking at Gigabyte's model, also... oy vay...
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August 21, 2010 5:16:16 PM

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