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August 24, 2010 11:01:46 PM

Hey, my case isn't the same as it was back when I got it... it's got 2 120mm fans, 2 140mm fans, 2 80mm fans, and the ability to attach an industrial blower... it has waay more airflow than the antec 300. and it's actually 20 cm wide, but the space to mount a cooler is 15 cm because of the blower. Also, thanks for that cpu cooler... will it fit am3 boards?
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August 24, 2010 11:02:19 PM

wait... duh. it's right there in the description
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August 24, 2010 11:13:13 PM

OvrClkr said:
much better ;) 

now copy these settings :

CPU Ratio/Multiplier @ x18 or 3800Mhz
FSB Frequency @ 200
PCI-E Frequency @ 100
CPU/NB Frequency @ 2000
HT Link @ 2000
CPU Loadline Calibration : Enabled
CPU voltage @ 1.45v
CPU/NB @ 1.28v
CPU VDDA @ 2.50425v
HT and NB @ 1.28v
NB 1.8 @ 1.81525v
SB @ 1.23225v
CPU and PCI-E Spread Spectrum : Disabled

your Bios is a bit different than mines but the values should be more or less the same..

Try running prime95 for at least a minute just to see where the CPU temps tops out at, if its under 58c it should be stable, if it goes over 58c then shut down prime and lower the CPU clock and voltage to around 3.6Ghz/1.41v. Your idle is pretty high at the moment, you want to keep that around 40c at the most so you can have a bit of headroom to work with.

Hey, I don't have cpu/nb, loadline, vdda, sb, or pcie spread spectrum... also, why am I lowering the pci-e speed from 150 to 100? and finally, I have two cpu voltages... one is "saftey level" which is in percents??? and the other is an actual voltage...
and also, here's a pic... speedfan is doing that 0c thing again...
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August 25, 2010 1:29:38 AM

Anything over 115/120 on the PCI-E is a waste, you are actually making the PC/GPU prone to instabilty once it goes over 125/130 depending on the board. Since the gain on my side is about 2 frames I just leave it at 100 just to make sure its 100% stable.

Leave the "saftey level" at its default value, i don't think that needs to be adjusted. If it does you can mess with that later.

Use something other than speedfan to make sure you are getting accurate readings, i normally use 3.

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/temp_m...

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August 25, 2010 1:40:07 AM

Hey, I figured out why speedfan was doing that... I just had to drop the per core advanced editing of something like that... anyways... I dropped my cpu to 3.6 until I get the new cooler... (I'm getting the one you sent me) how do you figure out what to use as a vcore? and what should I set mine to?
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August 25, 2010 2:29:55 AM

dude I want to see that case!
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August 25, 2010 2:35:39 AM

im on a phenom ii 955 @ 3.6 ( only 200mhz higher than yours) and a sapphire 5850 at stock setting and i get 50 fps on just cause 2 concrete jungle all maxed except aa at 1360x768.

theres something in your system that's not working quite well.



also speedfan is not a avery trustable source for cpu temps, it's results tend to be innacurate, use hwmonitor or amd overdrive instead
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August 25, 2010 3:03:42 AM

wiinippongamer said:
im on a phenom ii 955 @ 3.6 ( only 200mhz higher than yours) and a sapphire 5850 at stock setting and i get 50 fps on just cause 2 concrete jungle all maxed except aa at 1360x768.

theres something in your system that's not working quite well.



also speedfan is not a avery trustable source for cpu temps, it's results tend to be innacurate, use hwmonitor or amd overdrive instead

Hey, I oc'ed my cpu to 3.6, and I get 48 fps... and I think my ddr2 ram can account for the extra 2fps :)  thanks!
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August 25, 2010 3:09:46 AM

Hey, now that my cpu is at 3.6ghz, what should my vcore be? I've got it at 1.42 but I think that's a little much seeing as I used that also for 3.8ghz... what should it be at? Also, can I damage the cpu by having the vcore at 1.42 if it should be lower for that frequency? and finally... I oc'ed my cpu to 950/1200 1.18 (ovrclkr you should recognize this) and played Metro 2033 for a while... it played well, hardly ever went below 30fps, but every once in a while the game would stutter. The stuttering got longer, and then finally, it froze and the screen went to gray lines... is there a prob w/ my card? or is the game just unstable? Or was the oc too high? I held the pwr button and restarted, and now all the clocks are standard. So, I'm guessing too high of an oc. Also, I'll post pics of my modded case when I find my camera :/ 
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August 25, 2010 3:30:03 AM

I wouldn't go past 3.7Ghz since you are still using the stock cooler, just keep it at 3.6Ghz and you should be fine.

950/1200 requires 1.22v on my card, give it a bit more juice and create a fan curve to keep the card's temp down.

Here i set it to 900/1250 1.23v

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/80f_am...

And this is where it tops out :

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/MAX_OC...

so if you are getting artifacts you need to raise the voltage, just make sure that you keep it under 1.3v/80c to preserve it's lifespan.

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August 25, 2010 11:56:00 AM

^ I ran it maxxed with 0xaa
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August 25, 2010 12:12:07 PM

Oh, and also, I changed my vcore to 1.23 and metro played very well for a while, looked great, but then it started freezing... more and more... until the game went red and then closed and windows told me the display driver had crashed and recovered. :/  is there a patch for this game?
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August 25, 2010 3:09:29 PM

Martin 71 said:
Oh, and also, I changed my vcore to 1.23 and metro played very well for a while, looked great, but then it started freezing... more and more... until the game went red and then closed and windows told me the display driver had crashed and recovered. :/  is there a patch for this game?


Are you using he drivers that came with the card?
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August 25, 2010 4:01:02 PM

no... the ones that were online... should i try the ones on the card? also, I figured out how to rig up a second psu to my rig, and I'm curious if it's okay for the gpu to have power to it even though the motherboard and cpu aren't on... I'd guess it's okay... but I'd like to know your opinion before I risk a $300 card...
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August 25, 2010 4:25:18 PM

keep your cpu vcore at stock for just 3.6
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August 25, 2010 5:36:50 PM

Martin 71 said:
no... the ones that were online... should i try the ones on the card? also, I figured out how to rig up a second psu to my rig, and I'm curious if it's okay for the gpu to have power to it even though the motherboard and cpu aren't on... I'd guess it's okay... but I'd like to know your opinion before I risk a $300 card...


No, but if you are using the 10.7's I would uninstall those and try the 10.4's or 10.5's. I also had issues with newer drivers and ever since I reverted to the 10.4's I have not had one issue so far.

Why would you want to install a second PSU? Are you using both the 8pin and 6pin connectors?
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August 25, 2010 7:43:19 PM

OvrClkr said:
No, but if you are using the 10.7's I would uninstall those and try the 10.4's or 10.5's. I also had issues with newer drivers and ever since I reverted to the 10.4's I have not had one issue so far.

Why would you want to install a second PSU? Are you using both the 8pin and 6pin connectors?

Yeah.. but I figured that it was crashing 'cause it wasn't getting enough power. I spent three hours getting it to work... ant it still crashes. I'm gonna remove the extra psu and try 10.4... thanks :) 
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August 25, 2010 9:27:21 PM

no... my cables are a little different... but it's very like that one
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August 25, 2010 9:33:11 PM

can you link me to the PS that you are using?
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August 25, 2010 9:45:03 PM

Wow that's even weaker than the PSU that I linked above. Did you install the new driver yet?
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August 25, 2010 9:52:41 PM

yes. and I still can't achieve 900/1250 1.249v
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August 25, 2010 9:56:25 PM

Try again but this time leave the CPU at stock 3.4Ghz with stock voltage, i dont think your PSU can handle both the CPU and GPU overclocked at the same time regardless of the voltage that is being used.

Im leaving work in 5 min, we will continue troubleshooting once I get home. Don't worry we will eventually get it right!

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August 25, 2010 10:26:57 PM

Hey, I previously tried a dual psu config... the problem was still there... I believe it was a problem with the vcore... I have it at 1.293 and it runs well... no stuttering... the clocks are 900/1152
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August 25, 2010 10:27:26 PM

I do feel like 1.293 is too high... but online they've got ones at 1.3
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August 25, 2010 10:40:30 PM

I believe it may be your CPU keeping it back, keeping in mind benchmarks are done these days most commonly on Core i7 920's
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August 25, 2010 10:46:37 PM

decode said:
I believe it may be your CPU keeping it back, keeping in mind benchmarks are done these days most commonly on Core i7 920's

Uh, we already resolved that... I oc'ed to 3.6 and it's fine now... and if my gpu is at 100% then I really don't think the cpu is bottlenecking anymore.
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August 25, 2010 10:50:30 PM

1.29 is way too high unless you have the core over 1000 and the mem at around 1300

This is how I run the card, more or less the same clocks you are using :

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/21v_BC...

Here I raised both the voltage and the mem a bit further :

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/80f_am...

So in all you are applying too much voltage for a 900/1150 overclock. The card should not need that much voltage unless you are going to push the clocks past 1000/1275.
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August 25, 2010 10:50:56 PM

uh, now whatever I do, clock speeds or what not, I get small artifacts the size of pixels on my screen... no matter what I do with the clock speeds, or the vcore it's always there... faulty card?
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August 25, 2010 10:54:44 PM

Try this, lower your CPU clock to 3.2Ghz while leaving vcore at stock voltage, run your video card at stock everything and test again.
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August 25, 2010 10:57:20 PM

it runs... but it also runs at 3.6 and gpu at 900 1250 1.29vcore. But whatever I do, clock speeds or what not, I get small artifacts the size of pixels on my screen... no matter what I do with the clock speeds, it's always there... if I up the vcore to 1.21 they go away... but when gpu is stock it does the artifacts
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August 25, 2010 11:21:25 PM

Your doing something wrong, can you post a screenshot of the clocks you are using and then another one showing the artifacts? When the artifacts appear it normally means the voltage is too low or too high.

if that is not an option copy these settings and test again :

http://i683.photobucket.com/albums/vv199/OvrClkr/stock_...

this one should be larger :

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August 25, 2010 11:29:58 PM

hey, it's still there... they pop up every once in a while... really weird
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August 25, 2010 11:32:07 PM

they're like tiny little dots... they mess up text, and they flash on and off...
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August 25, 2010 11:48:48 PM

yes its called artifacts, like I said it normally appears when the voltage is too low or too high. If you set the card properly it shouldn't artifact at all.
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August 25, 2010 11:54:09 PM

I've tried every possible vcore level... and every driver 10.3 to 10.7 what should I do?
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August 26, 2010 12:02:31 AM

this is beyond frustrating... :fou:  [:bilbat:3] I spent 5 months saving up for this... sold my 5770... and I'm about this || close to rma'ing it... I'm enraged. :pfff:  :cry: 
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August 26, 2010 12:13:56 AM

Did you remove the drivers via the control panel + driver-sweeper each time? I doubt the GPU's faulty, it can take serious beating.

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August 26, 2010 12:33:48 AM

yes... well, instead of control panel, I used the .exe for the drivers that I installed with but it still launches catalyst control center installation manager. Which is what happens when you use control panel. and that's what I thought... the highest I set the vcore to was 1.3 and the highest for core clock was 900! I don't get it...
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August 26, 2010 1:33:29 AM

No, what i meant is that you uninstall the driver via the control panel using the installation manager, then you have to use Driversweeper to remove the remaining files, re-boot and install the new driver. It has to be done this way to make sure all leftover files are deleted.
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August 26, 2010 1:36:47 AM

okay... I'll try that... take a look at these pics... these are few compared to the numbers I get... It's just that they flicker so you can only get a few at a time...
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August 26, 2010 3:34:44 AM

That's it! I don't care anymore... I shouldn't have to troubleshoot something that I PAID $300 for... I'm rma'ing... thanks for your dedication and such, but there's no hope now.
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August 26, 2010 12:38:18 PM

what? I can't return it?
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August 26, 2010 2:19:55 PM

Martin 71 said:
what? I can't return it?


so you are getting artifacts with both the CPU and GPU at stock?
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August 26, 2010 2:42:23 PM

yes.
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August 26, 2010 3:31:18 PM

Well if you were not getting any artifacts before something must have gone wrong when swapping PSU's. RMA the card and get a more powerful PSU, something with at least dual PCI-E cables.
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August 26, 2010 3:58:20 PM

alright... to tell the truth, I haven't been exceptionally satisfied with every ati card I've bought... but whatever.. they aren't accepting a refund so I'll get a replacement
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September 8, 2010 11:03:20 PM

Okay, just following up, I know that this thread is dead now, but I got my rma, no more artifacts, I'm using asus's drivers (8.751) and that all checks out ok! so, I'd just like to thank all of you for your help, and happy building/modding/troubleshooting/gaming :) 
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September 9, 2010 1:22:17 AM

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