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October 3, 2010 9:28:54 PM

Im looking to build an i7 rig with a gigabyte ga x58A ud3r motherboard. but one of the workers at micro center said it was over kill for a gaming rig. i know most games only use 2 core on a cpu but i was originally going to get a asus p7p55de deluxe (the gigabyte ud4p with usb 3 and sata3 disables the second pcie x16 lane and turns the 1st lane into x8 mode) i5 760 system but noticed i could build an i7 930 for like less then a $50 difference. i want to upgrade my ancient amd athlon 64 x2 4800+.

is this a good idea for a build? any recommendations?

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October 3, 2010 9:33:42 PM

In terms of JUST gaming, the i5 750/60 will perform just as well as the i7 930/950. But, the i7 does have some perks like hyperthreading if you have any uses for that. You might want to drop down to an i5 and spend the extra money on a better video card since your gaming.
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October 3, 2010 10:42:10 PM

Goal nailed it

But if this is going to be an "investment" computer stay with the i7.
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October 3, 2010 11:33:25 PM

If it's a $50 difference, I'd go for it, more longitivity and better for multitasking.
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October 3, 2010 11:36:19 PM

one mans overkill is another's not enough...for less than 50 dollars go with the 930 (also if your not already look at the patriot extreme 6gigs tri channel channel ram last I looked it had a 40 dollar rebate at MC...
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October 4, 2010 12:50:36 AM

heres what the i5 build-

MOBO: asus p7p55d e deluxe $240
CPU: core i5 760 $270
RAM: 4x2gb of s.skill ripjaw ram $95
HDD: wd black 7,200rpm 500gb $60
CASE: CM storm scout $72 (got it yesterday at micro center on sale!)
PSU: 700w ocz stealthxstream $50 (already have it)
GPU: gigabyte hd 5770 $137 (already got it)
DVD burner: LG dvd burner $17 (already got it)

total $665 (not counting what i already have )

i7 920 build-

mobo: gigabyte ga x58a ud3r $200
CPU: core i7 930: $200
Ram: not sure ~$100
HDD: wd black 7,200rpm 500gb $60 or wd sata 3 1t $99
DVD burner: LG dvd burner $17 (allready got it)
CASE: CM storm scout $72 (got it yesterday at micro center on sale!)
PSU: 700w ocz stealthxstream $50 (allready have it)
GPU: gigabyte hd 5770 $137 (allready got it)

total $560 (not including what i already have)

:0 did i forget something i5- $665.... i7: $560???


also this guy can sell my an evga 3x sli for $75 used
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October 4, 2010 12:53:05 AM

ohh yeah and @malmental i got my hdd working, i reinstalled windows 7, im using that computer as we speak

thanks for your help
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October 4, 2010 1:48:43 AM

No one asked what your screen resolution will be.

If you are using a 5770, I assume you will be gaming at less than 1920 resolution. If so, the 930 is overkill.

If your gaming future includes 1920, and you are budget capped, please go with the 760 and put the extra money into a GTX 460 instead.

If you're gaming at 1920 with a 460, the 930 might also be useful at the bargain price you're getting. At full retail, we'd be recommending the i5 760.
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October 4, 2010 3:09:38 AM

Twoboxer said:
No one asked what your screen resolution will be.

If you are using a 5770, I assume you will be gaming at less than 1920 resolution. If so, the 930 is overkill.

If your gaming future includes 1920, and you are budget capped, please go with the 760 and put the extra money into a GTX 460 instead.

If you're gaming at 1920 with a 460, the 930 might also be useful at the bargain price you're getting. At full retail, we'd be recommending the i5 760.

I run at 1080 P (that is really what you should call it) with a 5770, and I get 60 + FPS, even in new games. It does drop a bit when I am in a higher DX...
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October 4, 2010 3:20:59 AM

It depends on what you are playing.
SC2 with a i7 930 and a 5770 at 1080p is going to be quite a bit different than Metro 2033 with the same hardware.
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October 4, 2010 6:56:37 AM

Atotalnoob said:
I run at 1080 P (that is really what you should call it) with a 5770, and I get 60 + FPS, even in new games. It does drop a bit when I am in a higher DX...
There's a lot of games I can run at 60 FPS with a 250 at either 1920x1080, or 1920x1200.

Doesn't mean I would recommend one for gaming at 1920.
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October 4, 2010 8:50:17 AM

^ Why go 1920x1080 when you can get 2560x1600 :D 
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October 4, 2010 10:29:15 AM

Quote:
no problem bro.
glad to help.
what thread was that on again.?


uhhh I'll send u the link later today I don't remember haha
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October 4, 2010 2:59:44 PM

i think go with CoreI7930 since it is discounted from the store you are buying. CoreI7 930= 199 $ vs CoreI5 760 270$.

For me i will go with CoreI7 for sure because of hyper threading and it is only 199 $ only. I do play game, converting video at the same time, and downloading at the same time. I'm using 25 Mb/s down- 7 mbit/s upload connection(unlimited-no cap). So downloading is not affecting my latency at all. One drive store all movies i download, 1 drive store all movie i convert.

So CoreI7 930 is pretty good if you do same stuff as me. Anyway since your CoreI7 build is cheaper than CoreI5. Might go with CoreI7
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October 4, 2010 5:14:19 PM

Keep in mind for your i5 build you can go with the P7P55D-E Pro for ~$180 and save ~$60. There really isn't much difference between the two other than an extra network port, sata slot and some other small stuff. The main functionality is the same and you're probably not going to utilize all the extra stuff you're paying for.

Also if you go with the i7, you should really use a triple channel ram kit, since it will be the LGA 1366 socket, which would be around $150. Not the $100 you estimated.

If you're buying from Microcenter, the i5-760 is only $170. This means the i5 build you listed should be about $505 and the i7 build should be $610. Throw in $24 to both builds if you plan to overclock and grab the CM Hyper 212+ at microcenter.

You can grab the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB for about $60 at microcenter or with the promo on newegg. It's faster and higher capacity than the WB black you listed.

I would go with the i5 unless you plan on doing some intensive video encoding or some Photoshop/CAD work. The i5 is excellent for gaming and gaming PCs are usually plenty good for everything else. Unless there is a sudden shift in computing technology, either build should last a good 5 years or more.

Basically it all comes down to if you want to pay the $100 for hyperthreading or not. HT may be useful, but not so much to the average PC user. If you aren't using those extra threads now, chances are you're not likely to use them much in the future either. Especially when upgrading from 2 core to 4 core.
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October 4, 2010 6:50:33 PM

Twoboxer said:
No one asked what your screen resolution will be.

If you are using a 5770, I assume you will be gaming at less than 1920 resolution. If so, the 930 is overkill.

If your gaming future includes 1920, and you are budget capped, please go with the 760 and put the extra money into a GTX 460 instead.

If you're gaming at 1920 with a 460, the 930 might also be useful at the bargain price you're getting. At full retail, we'd be recommending the i5 760.


when i get enough money i want to get an asus 23.6" or 24" asus monitor with 1080p. but right now the monitor i have only has up to 1280x1024.

what would be a good monitor for 23"+ monitor for about $200 with 1080p res?
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October 4, 2010 6:57:53 PM

duk3 said:
It depends on what you are playing.
SC2 with a i7 930 and a 5770 at 1080p is going to be quite a bit different than Metro 2033 with the same hardware.


maybe COD, gta iv, battlefield 2 and bad co 2, gta iv is pretty CPU intensive Ive heard but it runs well for me ateverything high and very high shadows and reflections on 1280x960 ans 4x AA
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October 4, 2010 7:01:26 PM

matt_mu said:
when i get enough money i want to get an asus 23.6" or 24" asus monitor with 1080p. but right now the monitor i have only has up to 1280x1024.

what would be a good monitor for 23"+ monitor for about $200 with 1080p res?


Asus' VH242H is a 23.6" model with 1080p and has very good reviews but is also known for a "flicker" issue that can be googled. I got mine for $170 on a newegg promotion and it works great. Can't say much for reliability since I've only had it for about a month but no problems so far.
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October 4, 2010 8:50:15 PM

kimyeang88 said:
i think go with CoreI7930 since it is discounted from the store you are buying. CoreI7 930= 199 $ vs CoreI5 760 270$.

For me i will go with CoreI7 for sure because of hyper threading and it is only 199 $ only. I do play game, converting video at the same time, and downloading at the same time. I'm using 25 Mb/s down- 7 mbit/s upload connection(unlimited-no cap). So downloading is not affecting my latency at all. One drive store all movies i download, 1 drive store all movie i convert.

So CoreI7 930 is pretty good if you do same stuff as me. Anyway since your CoreI7 build is cheaper than CoreI5. Might go with CoreI7


Oh sorry I ment the core i5 760 is $170
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October 4, 2010 11:42:54 PM

I said I play modern games, SC2, Bc2, ect..
The only think I drop to unacceptable FPS is Warcraft 3, and EAW...
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October 4, 2010 11:51:55 PM

do you have an i5 or i7
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October 5, 2010 8:12:04 PM

would it be a good idea to get a asus p7p55d e pro open box from newegg? its $127
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October 5, 2010 8:29:09 PM

No, open box = defective....
I have i7 930...
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October 5, 2010 9:18:35 PM

Not necessarily, open box items usually means the original box was damaged through one way or another. The item itself is not defective although depending on the extent of the damage the item could be perfectly fine or DOA.

They wouldn't sell defective items as open box. The open box discount is usually priced significantly lower but at the cost of having to pay full shipping and not qualify for any promos. Its a way for them to get rid of stock that is not in a "presentable" container. I'm not sure how the warranties work for them, but I'll guess they're all voided because they won't replace an open box item with a new one.

If you want to take the risk of a DOA item and not willing to cough up the extra dough for a new one, go ahead! You may be in luck and get a perfectly good one at a low price.

Me? I'd pay the extra for a new item. Especially when it comes to electronics.
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October 5, 2010 10:06:00 PM

kureme said:
Not necessarily, open box items usually means the original box was damaged through one way or another. The item itself is not defective although depending on the extent of the damage the item could be perfectly fine or DOA.
The point is, an open box is like a tumor - can be malignant or benign. You can't tell.
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October 6, 2010 1:33:52 AM

Twoboxer is right, Why take the chance? treat it as the worst case, and you never be disappointed....
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October 6, 2010 4:05:43 AM

I know, I'm just saying. Its a high risk purchase but if all goes well, the reward is great. Doesn't mean it won't turn sour.
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October 6, 2010 1:07:26 PM

no, but why bother with the chance? It is the same as Gambling....
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October 6, 2010 1:45:45 PM

Because some people like to gamble.

Because it might just be missing a sata cable, manual or some other accessory.

Because everything could be fine and the box is literally just opened.

Because the box could jsut have had its corner dented.

Because if nothing is wrong, you get a completly good piece of hardware for about 30% cheaper than what it's listed at and if its bad you can always return it within 15 days although you'd have to pay shipping.

Because even though you don't have newegg warranty, you still have manufacturer's warranty on the item.

Regardless, keeping this on subject, its really up to you if you want to get the open box matt_mu. There are good and bad parts about it but ultimately its your choice. I'm sure atotalnoob, Twoboxer as well as myself are advocates against open box items. My stance is strong towards core components and more lax towards less vital components, like a case or the heatsink/fan, etc. Stick with new items if it has electrical components in them.
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October 6, 2010 8:09:40 PM

so to get back on track, i think ive made my decision, ill go with the i5. So im looking at the asus p7p55d e pro and the gigabyte ga p55a ud4p. i noticed that the ud4p, when in crossfire mode, the sata 6 and usb3 go into regular mode as i have seen on forums and new egg stated it on there website. Ive also noticed that there are 2 rev's, rev 1 and rev 2. did they fix this problem in rev 2? and does the p55 chip set have good crossfire support (up to 32 lanes) as the x58 (up to 48?? {im not totaly sure how many lanes and x58 system supports}) if im planning for 2 graffics cards in the future running in crossfire.
And a pcie x16 running at x8 2.0 doesn't have any performance loss from an x16 2.0 does it?
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October 6, 2010 10:39:39 PM

The Asus P7P55D-E Pro is is the recommended board, but the Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4P is just as good. The problem with the SATA3 and USB 3.0 working at normal mode is because the chip use PCI-E lanes to run. If this is a problem for you, go with the Asus board. Otherwise, its your preference. I would take the Asus over the Gigabyte though because I would rather keep SATA3 and USb 3.0 functionality when I SLI.

As for the PCI-E x16 slots running at x8. There is obviously a performance loss, but this loss is negligible compared to a drop to x4. You will most likely won't even notice the difference from running at x16 or x8 so it should be fine.
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October 6, 2010 11:15:54 PM

Nice one Kureme, but people who gamble don't necessarily have great mental health? My grandfather is a friodian psychotrist, and I studied psychology as my minor is college, anyway, let's not have this conversation.
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October 6, 2010 11:39:46 PM

im also looking at the ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard and it has a 5year warranty too
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October 6, 2010 11:42:03 PM

The Asus supports USB/SATA 3.0 while running crossfire, but Crossfire is limited to X8-X8. That is due to the "paths" limitation of the platform.

The Giga supports USB/SATA 3.O UNTIL you run crossfire. Crossfire always runs at x16-x8.

So, you must take your pick of which loss to suffer. For me, the thing I want to protect is crossfire, because if I pop a second vid card in there I wanted +FPS in gaming. And I want that benefit because I game frequently, and don't see USB/SATA 3.0 helping me much over the life of a build done today. Four years from now, when 3.0 disk and thingees make sense for my uses, maybe my view of the tradeoffs will differ.

Your view may differ now.
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October 6, 2010 11:46:13 PM

He has a 5770, so playing modern games, such as Bad company 2, and starcraft, at 1080p maxed settings, you are looking at 40-
So having another gpu is definitly going to be a thing you will want to do...
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