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October 4, 2010 12:43:49 AM

I am a Noob, and am bowled over by the depth of knowledge here.

I am building a new machine for NLE edit purposes (Sony Vegas 9, and ultimately 10 when it is released), and CS5 for photos.

I shoot in HD, and want to burn to BluRay. My raw files tend to be rather large, due to HD. I mix in photos, which are also large files (9MB/each photo).

My budget is 2k, or more if you tell me I "need" something.

My timeframe is now (or tell me why I should wait for something better coming along).

Price without a monitor or keyboard.

I would like separate scratch and render drives (or tell me what/why I need).

Thanks in advance for all your help!!!!
October 4, 2010 6:13:54 AM

Here is a setup...
i7 950 + CM Hyper 212+(Though for stock speeds, the stock cooler would suffice, but this would keep it cooler even at stock speeds also if you plan to overclock a bit, then this is needed)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

ASUS X58 + Win 7
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

GSKillz 12GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CM 690 Advanced
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CM Silent PRO 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

ATI 100-505606 FirePro V4800 1GB GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

BD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD Setup -
OCZ Vertex 2 120GB SSD - For OS, apps
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ Vertex 30GB - A separate scratch disk
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

For data -
WD Black 1.5TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - ~$1605
October 4, 2010 11:24:04 AM

gkay09 said:


ATI 100-505606 FirePro V4800 1GB GDDR5
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Why did you use an ati card. Im assuming the firepro is a workstation card. Nonetheless, i have read that nvidia has openGL and CUDA technology which help in the processing of hd video files such as AVCHD which need alot of processing power.

this ati card seems old. i could be wrong its just it has openGL 3.2. I think i heard of some nvidia cards having openGL 4.0.

Also on the adobe website, they reccommend you use nividia card to help boost performance. of course this could just be corporate ties. but nonetheless, i was under the impression that nvidia workstation cards are much better than ati in terms of video editing purposes. However, if you are going to purchase a low end workstation card, which will probably be old, then might as well buy a higher end gaming card which will be same price, but better. correct me if im wrong.

I have the same build as you dpaustex but my budget is only 1200. here is my build. i am going to create new thread to get advice.

Oh keep in mind, I'm from Toronto, Canada. So the prices I'm listing are Canadian dollars. And i'm actually trying to avoid NewEgg as i do not want to have anything shipped. I have some bad experiences with the UPS man coming to my apartment, long story.

Anyhow, here is the build...

CPU = Intel i7 950 3.06ghz...............................$309.99 at NCIX

Mobo = Asus Sabertooth x58...........................$214.99 at Canadacomputers

PSU = Corsair HX 750W....................................$159.99 at Canadacomputers

RAM = Mushkin Blackline 6gb 1600mhz.............$142.00 at Canadacomputers

Case = Coolermaster HAF 922 Mid-ATX.............$89.99 at NCIX

GPU = eVGA GTX 460 756mb.............................$199.99 at Tigerdierct.ca

HDD = WesternDigital Caviar Black 650gb.........$57.99 at NCIX

DVD = ASUS Black 24x........................................$24.99 at NewEgg.ca

Total = 1199.93

I also need to get a heatsink and probably some more fans for the case.

I already have mouse, keyboard, monitor, and also an external 1TB.
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October 4, 2010 11:42:24 AM

^ That ATI card is actually a current-gen Workstation card based on DirectX 11. There are only 2 Nvidia cards which have support for OpenGL 4.0 but the cheapest one is about USD 780...
Also for Adobe applications, the CUDA is mainly helpful in Premier PRO and After Effects, whereas the Photoshop takes advantage of the OpenGL, which even ATI cards support,...
October 4, 2010 11:48:13 AM

Ah yes, while researching i guess i must of missed the fact that CUDA is used by video editing.

Thank you.

question though, would you reccomend me getting a gtx 460.

im starting a new thread right now actually for advice on my build.
October 4, 2010 1:07:41 PM

^ Depends...if you want to do gaming as well, then GTX 460 would be a good choice...
October 4, 2010 1:18:40 PM

Good advice, so far. I am in the US, have a Fry's in town (Austin, TX), and not worried about shipping (saves sales tax, for one thing).

I will not be doing gaming. This is video/photos, only, and will have no crapware on it, either!!!

gkay looks to be on the right track with what I want. Thanks!!! Keep the ideas coming.
October 4, 2010 1:31:56 PM

Another point, what about RAID 0+1? I do want multiple HD, as these files get pretty massive. I also want a HD that I can store the finished product on.

Some people, in other threads, have said to keep with multiple smaller drives, as the larger ones have longevity issues. Any merit to that?
October 5, 2010 3:52:18 AM

^ Yeah RAID 0+1 would be a good option for you IMO, both data security and speed,...
These drives would be good for that -
These are enterprise-class HDDs so the price premium
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or standard desktop parts which are good too -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
So with 4 of these, go RAID 0+1

And as for smaller drives suggestion people say that because if you have a larger drive, then you would need an even larger backup system, but if you go RAID 0+1, then you do get data security along with speed, so its fine to go with larger drives IMO...
October 5, 2010 8:50:48 AM

May I ask what a scratch disk is? I understand the data and load drives, but a third HDD?
October 6, 2010 7:31:19 PM

Gkay, you're definitely on the right track. Any advantages for an AMD setup vs. Intel?

I also want a higher end cooler, as I do plan to overclock. I know it may seem crazy, but I want at least 12GB of RAM, as you advised.

I know this is insane, but can you run a double Raid setup, i.e. 6 drives? I have a lot of archival stuff that I don't want to keep having on external drives (I now have about 8TB of family videos/vacations/professional photos), and would really like to have everything in one spot, if possible. I know this will be a base budget killer, but HD's are cheap.
October 6, 2010 9:34:16 PM

You might want to look at the AMD Phenom II x6 1055t processor. It's a six core, and will outperform all but the highest end i7's (intel only offers a few hexacores, and they're around $1000!) for video editing. That processor will also save you a good amount of money which you can apply toward other components.

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October 8, 2010 4:28:23 AM
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^^ If it is mainly going to be video editing suff, then the 6-Core from AMD will definitely be a good choice...Also if you planning for an overclock, then the 1055T would offer the best value of the lot...
And you could reduce the overall price of the build as you can get a cheaper mobo...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

But still they would be slightly slower than the i7s though...

RAM - Even 8GB would suffice...
$10 off w/ promo code EMCZYYS23, ends 10/11
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 11, 2010 7:36:23 PM

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