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August 28, 2011 8:34:29 PM

good night everybody i have few questions about motherboards im going to buy a intel 2600 (sandy bridge) a zotac gtx 580 2x 4gb kingston 1333 mhz ram and for the motherboard i chosed gigabyte h67m-d2-b3 it is a very cheap board for lga 1155 so it makes me think is there a possibility that my motherboard create a bottleneck and restrict me from getting full performance (btw im going to use it for gaming can i play the latest games @ full settings with this system) and if it not create a botleneck whats the purpose of the 400 - 500 dollar motherboards apart from sli and overclock
August 28, 2011 9:41:02 PM

Thats a very good question, haha unfortanetly I dont have the answer.
a c 716 V Motherboard
August 28, 2011 10:03:46 PM

Welcome to Tom's Forum! :) 

First an H67 + non-'K' SB + GTX 580 +DDR3 1333 = CrAzY mix-match! Like a Camry + 6 cylinder Ferrari engine + Jet Wings + Parachute. Next, I don't recommend $400~$500 MOBO's for LGA 1155 builds. It's about BALANCE, and you can only OC the P67 or Z68 MOBOs. A good OC with a low vCore is all about a higher Phase MOBO; OC a 4+2 MOBO will yield too high vCore = too high CPU temps. The i5 vs i7 clock per clock Game the same, the advantages to Hyper-Threading is for Applications like Adobe and a few other rendering Apps that can use HT, Games doesn't use HT.

Here's a balanced Gaming Build:

Type Price Description Link
CPU 220 Intel Core i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO 200 ASUS P8Z68-V PRO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HSF 58 Thermaltake Frio http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU 470 EVGA 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 1536MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM 55 Mushkin Blackline 8GB DDR3 1600 Model 996988 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD 200 OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD 60 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD 60 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU 106 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE 88 CM RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS 91 Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ODD 26 ASUS 24X DVDR - Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total 1634

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GPU 310 EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HSF 126 CORSAIR H100 Liquid CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS 140 Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU 315 Intel Core i7-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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August 29, 2011 4:56:42 AM

selocan860 said:
good night everybody i have few questions about motherboards im going to buy a intel 2600 (sandy bridge) a zotac gtx 580 2x 4gb kingston 1333 mhz ram and for the motherboard i chosed gigabyte h67m-d2-b3 it is a very cheap board for lga 1155 so it makes me think is there a possibility that my motherboard create a bottleneck and restrict me from getting full performance (btw im going to use it for gaming can i play the latest games @ full settings with this system) and if it not create a botleneck whats the purpose of the 400 - 500 dollar motherboards apart from sli and overclock


Good question. The motherboard without the devices/modules is really a bunch of wire, and the wires do have a limit to how much data they can transmit per second or nanosecond or whatever, so theoretically, yes. However you are unlikely to run into any unintended bottlenecks here because devices haven't outpaced the ability to fit connections on to a board.

You could run out of sufficent PCIe slots though, and end up running a card slower than it can actually operate (if the card has multiple modes), or not being able to use the card at all without getting rid of something else.

Aside from that, bottlenecks that are not due to devices, integrated or otherwise, would arise from the layout of the data management pathways and the order in which the data is shuffled around.

This is pretty nitty gritty stuff and to learn more about it you would probably have to sit in on a computer science class at a college. As an end user though, you have to rely on benchmark results and even then you wouldn't really be able to pinpoint the source of performance differences.

Most bottlenecks are caused by devices.


August 29, 2011 8:32:27 AM

jaquith said:
Welcome to Tom's Forum! :) 

First an H67 + non-'K' SB + GTX 580 +DDR3 1333 = CrAzY mix-match! Like a Camry + 6 cylinder Ferrari engine + Jet Wings + Parachute. Next, I don't recommend $400~$500 MOBO's for LGA 1155 builds. It's about BALANCE, and you can only OC the P67 or Z68 MOBOs. A good OC with a low vCore is all about a higher Phase MOBO; OC a 4+2 MOBO will yield too high vCore = too high CPU temps. The i5 vs i7 clock per clock Game the same, the advantages to Hyper-Threading is for Applications like Adobe and a few other rendering Apps that can use HT, Games doesn't use HT.

Here's a balanced Gaming Build:

Type Price Description Link
CPU 220 Intel Core i5-2500K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
MOBO 200 ASUS P8Z68-V PRO http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HSF 58 Thermaltake Frio http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
GPU 470 EVGA 015-P3-1582-AR GeForce GTX 580 1536MB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
RAM 55 Mushkin Blackline 8GB DDR3 1600 Model 996988 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
SSD 200 OCZ Vertex 3 VTX3-25SAT3-120G 120GB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD 60 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HDD 60 SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
PSU 106 CORSAIR Enthusiast Series TX650M http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CASE 88 CM RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS 91 Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ODD 26 ASUS 24X DVDR - Model DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total 1634

Options
GPU 310 EVGA 012-P3-1570-AR GeForce GTX 570 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
HSF 126 CORSAIR H100 Liquid CPU Cooler http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
OS 140 Windows 7 Pro SP1 64-bit - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
CPU 315 Intel Core i7-2600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


oh thank you jaquith you saved me from a terrible pc howewer newegg doesnt send to my country and if make this system here it will cost more than 2200 dollar + tax instead i looked up google about 2600k and 2500k and everybody recommends 2500k for gaming here i win about 100 dollars and for the mobo i choose this, is it a good choice http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... and i want a help from you because i cant find mushkin in my country and i need a low voltage (for sb of course) 1600 mhz memory from kingston corsair or gskill can you help me again i thank you for your help
a c 716 V Motherboard
August 29, 2011 4:31:16 PM

The ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z is a mATX MOBO, lower Phase, some people love that form factor and others late it. However, the Maximus IV Gene-Z is one of if not the finest mATX LGA 1155 MOBO's available. An invaluable resource is this link {specs + vCore} http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/916189-comp...

My generic MOBO answer is 12+2 phase minimum with 12 Phases or more in particular to the CPU. ASUS 'PRO' or higher and Gigabyte UD5 or UD7 series.

G.SKILL vs Corsair and SB, I'm a Corsair fan but I like the G.SKILL better for the SB CPU. My favorite 2x4GB kit is the 1600/CAS 8 Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM and there's brand new ultra low voltage F3-12800CL9D-8GBXM but I have ZIP experience with them.

OC - most good 12+ phase MOBO's will produce 4.2GHz~4.4GHz OC aided with a good HSF, but anything higher is by chance of the 'luck' of the CPU AND the Thermal limits of your CPU cooling.
August 30, 2011 12:16:04 AM

jaquith said:
The ASUS Maximus IV Gene-Z is a mATX MOBO, lower Phase, some people love that form factor and others late it. However, the Maximus IV Gene-Z is one of if not the finest mATX LGA 1155 MOBO's available. An invaluable resource is this link {specs + vCore} http://www.overclock.net/intel-motherboards/916189-comp...

My generic MOBO answer is 12+2 phase minimum with 12 Phases or more in particular to the CPU. ASUS 'PRO' or higher and Gigabyte UD5 or UD7 series.

G.SKILL vs Corsair and SB, I'm a Corsair fan but I like the G.SKILL better for the SB CPU. My favorite 2x4GB kit is the 1600/CAS 8 Ripjaws X F3-12800CL8D-8GBXM and there's brand new ultra low voltage F3-12800CL9D-8GBXM but I have ZIP experience with them.

OC - most good 12+ phase MOBO's will produce 4.2GHz~4.4GHz OC aided with a good HSF, but anything higher is by chance of the 'luck' of the CPU AND the Thermal limits of your CPU cooling.


thanks for information but i dont know about 12 phase thing if its for overclock im going to use stock fan so on 2500k i even may not go up to 4 ghz so except from that i cant see a noticeble diffrence between p8z68 - v pro and gene-z son i might get gene z i thank you again for all of your helping efforts
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