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Gaming on a budget- Which Laptop to buy

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October 6, 2010 8:22:44 PM

*Thank You for moving the post as i realized my mistake after I posted, My Apologies*

Hello and thank you for your expertise!

I am in the situation of returning a Laptop my mother bought for me because I realized it has a very low end graphics solution with not dedicated memory.

I have narrowed it down to three machines, this may be an apples to oranges type of comparison but I will do my best to lay it out in the simplest way.

First, I will use this machine for gaming and some photo shop/web design.

I am on a budget as the title says but I do have some wiggle room.

the Laptops I am looking at are....

Processor & Memory

Intel® Core™ i5-460M Processor (2.53GHz)
3MB L3 cache

640GB (7,200RPM) SATA Hard Drive
SuperMulti 8X DVD±R/RW double layer drive
Graphics & Video:
17.3" diagonal LED BrightView widescreen display; 1600 x 900 native resolution
512MB ATI Mobility Radeon™ HD 5470 Graphics
Intel Wireless-N Card
Integrated 10/100/1000 Gigabit Ethernet LAN
Beats™ Audio + HP Triple Bass Reflex Subwoofer
HP color matching keyboard
Notebook keyboard with scroll bar and integrated numeric keypad
Integrated Webcam and fingerprint reader
5-in-1 integrated digital media card reader
Four USB 2.0 ports (one shared with eSATA port)
RJ-45 (LAN)
Operating System:
Microsoft® Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

Toshiba Qosimo X505 -Q885
Processor & Memory:

Intel® Core™ i5-450M Processor 2.40GHz (with Turbo Boost up to 2.53GHz)
3MB L3 Cache
4GB DDR3 1066MHz (Max 8GB)

500GB (7200 RPM) SATA hard drive
DVD-SuperMulti Drive with Labelflash (supports 11 formats)
Graphics & Video:
18.4" widescreen TruBrite TFT LCD display; 1680x945 native resolution
NVIDIA GeForce GTS 360M with 1GB GDDR5 discrete graphics card

Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n
10/100/1000 Ethernet

Built-in harman/kardon stereo speakers
Dolby Home Theater

Premium US keyboard
TouchPad pointing device with multi-touch control
Touchpad Enable/Disable button
Media Control Buttons

ExpressCard/34 and ExpressCard/54 slot
5-in-1 Memory Card Reader accepts Secure Digital, Secure Digital High Capacity, Memory Stick, Memory Stick PRO, MultiMediaCard (shared slot)

RGB port (monitor)
3x USB v2.0 ports
1x eSATA/USB combo port with USB Sleep and Charge
i.LINK IEEE-1394
S/P DIF output (shared with headphone port)
Microphone Input
Heaphone Output
RJ-45 LAN port
Slot for Security Lock
Operating System:

Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit)

Acer Aspire AS7552G-5107

Processor 2GHz AMD Phenom II Quad-Core N930
Cache L2: 2MB
System Bus 1333MHz Front Side Bus
Memory Slots: 4x SO-DIMM 204-Pin
Type: PC3-8500 1066MHz DDR3 SDRAM
Installed: 4GB (2x2GB)
Capacity: 8GB
Graphics Card Type: Dedicated
Installed: ATI Radeon HD 5650 with 1GB DDR3 SDRAM Dedicated
Type Widescreen
Size 17.3"
Backlight LED
Aspect Ratio 16:9
Native Resolution 1600 x 900
Hard Drive Bays: 1x
Installed: 500GB 5400rpm
Type: SATA
Optical Drive 8x-Speed Tray-Load SuperMulti DVD Burner

DVD: 8x
CD: 24x

DVD-R: 8x
DVD-RW: 6x
DVD-R DL: 4x
DVD+R: 8x
DVD+RW: 8x
DVD+R DL: 4x
CD-R: 24x
CD-RW: 16x
Input/Output Connectors
Ports 4x USB 2.0 (A)
Display Output 1x VGA
Audio Integrated Stereo Speakers (Acer 3DSonic)
Integrated Microphone
1x 1/8" (3.5mm) Headphone Output
1x 1/8" (3.5mm) Microphone Input
Expansion Slots None
Flash Media Slot 1x SD
1x MMC
1x Memory Stick
1x Memory Stick PRO
1x xD-Picture Card
Network 10/100/1000Mbps Gigabit Ethernet (RJ-45)
Modem None
Wi-Fi 802.11b/g/n
Bluetooth Bluetooth 3.0+HS
Webcam Yes, 1.3MP
Operating System Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit)

I really like the acer (I think) but when researching the AMD Phenom quad I read that it doesnt perform as good as a good dual core. Something about it is single threaded and it doesnt have a level 3 cache??

The toshiba is intriguing but I have seen more neg reviews about stability ( blue screens, overheating, etc) I do not need a 1000 dollar POS

the HP is the exact model I am returning except it has dedicated memory GPU and 6 gig ram and 640gb HDD so I know it will perform better than what I have and what i have is doing the job on min settings in game.

I am obviously looking for the best bang for the buck but i do want a computer that will last a couple of years.

Thank you for any help you can give
October 6, 2010 8:47:13 PM

This topic has been moved from the section Graphics & Displays to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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October 7, 2010 11:32:19 AM

I also prefer the Toshiba Qosmio with 360M.
ACER is not my thing ...I won't even bother to read the ACERs specs.
HD5470 is weaker than nVidias 360M.
October 12, 2010 10:36:52 PM

Thanks a bunch for your feedback!!!
October 12, 2010 11:08:10 PM

More research and reviews leads me to this choice......

Let me know what you guys think


NP7130 $1,163.00 $1.163,00

Display 17.3" Full HD LED Display with Super Glossy Surface (1920 x 1080)
Video & Graphics Card 1GB DDR3 Nvidia GeForce GT 425M GPU with Optimus Technology / Embedded Intel HD Graphics with Shared Memory up to 1.7GB
CPU Processor Intel® Core™ i5-560M Processor ( 32nm, 3MB L3 Cache, 2.66GHz / 3.20GHz Turbo Mode ) [$60.00]
Thermal Compound IC Diamond Thermal Compound - CPU + GPU [$25.00]
Operating System Genuine MS Windows® 7 Home Premium 32/64-Bit Edition ( 64-Bit Preloaded )
Memory 4GB Dual Channel DDR3 SDRAM at 1066MHz - 2 X 2GB
Primary Hard Disk Drive 500GB 7200rpm SATA 300 Hard Drive [$20.00]
Optical Drive 8X DVD±R/RW/4X +DL Super-Multi Drive & Software
Wireless Network Card Internal 802.11 B+G+N Wireless LAN Module
Bluetooth Internal Bluetooth V2.1 Module
Primary Battery Smart Li-ION Battery Pack (6 Cells 62.16WH)
Microsoft Office New! Microsoft Office Starter 2010 - Included in Price
Warranty Sager 2 Year Limited Parts and Labor Warranty [$69.00]
Carrying Bag Standard Carrying Bag

Started at 989 or something like that. I did upgrade a few things. Basically if it doesn't have a price by it then it came standard.

Thanks again for any help!!
October 13, 2010 4:45:30 AM

I am really just asking about the sager brand and the component matching up. I have read several threads on various prebuilt machines and it never really occurred to me that certain components combos would make a better choice. I also know nothing about the Sager/clevo brand name. I have researched what other owners say about the brand but would love some outside input.

Thanks again for any and all assistance with this purchase.
October 13, 2010 5:02:09 AM

Sager? I don't even know what that is.

Best solution

October 13, 2010 7:20:53 AM

From what I read in the link you gave me, I see that the specs is good for the price.
17.3" is a little too big, but it is you choice.

The only thing which bother me is the hardware quality of the laptop.
For example, I have seen smoke coming from 3 of ACERs PC and 2 ACERs laptop , direct in front of my eyes.
The smoke didn't come from the battery but from either the mobo or processor.
From this literally burned, I have learned to look also for hardware quality instead of only the hardware specs.
Somehow for me, this explained the relatively cheap price of ACERs laptop.

But for this Xotic Sager thing, I have totally no experience so I won't say anything bad about it. But...are you sure about the quality of this brand?
October 13, 2010 6:31:04 PM

Nope, Not at all.

But it is the best bang for the buck so far. I can find a better price but with a lesser gpu.

When searching for gaming laptops the sager brand comes up tons, along with the xotic site which sells asus, sager/clevo, msi, force etc. the only ones i had heard of was asus and msi due to motherboard purchases in the past. My only problem with Asus is that alot of reviews claim asus customer support is crap. This surprised me at first as when upgrading mobo in my desktop the asus guy I spoke to on the phone was informative, spoke english well, genuinely cared about helping me pick the correct product for what I needed.

Trust me I am confused about where to go and what to get. The toshiba I listed in the op looks good on paper but then i read several reviews about how it was not stable.

So i am just trying to get a feel for what people on this forum may suggest. I did see some posts suggesting a sager somewhere around here but did not book mark it.

Bottom line is I have about 1000 to spend (give or take 200) and am looking for a good CPU/GPU combo that will last me for 3 or 4 years and it needs to play WoW and hopefully the upcoming Starwars: the old republic. I also do some light photoshop/web design.

Thanks again for any and all expertise anyone can share.
October 13, 2010 8:04:35 PM

I have had two laptops from Sager. They lasted a long time. I still have one of them, going on 7 years now, and it still functions. I replaced the battery maybe 3 years ago. Both of mine were business models not gamers.
October 14, 2010 8:01:55 AM

Yup,somehow I have to agree with the business laptop thing. The business class laptops tend to live longer than the gaming class.
My Toshiba Tecra (forgot the type number) with PII 233MMX is still kicking altough I am not using it anymore. (I still keep it with me as decoration)
My Lenovo PIII 533 is still also healthy. (I still keep it with me as decoration)
My gaming laptops from Lenovo, ASUS, Sony, Dell, and Toshiba are all either completely dead or half dead. At least none of them has ever exploded in front of my eyes. Thank goodness people wanted to buy those laptops in e-bay. :D 
That is why I 've decided to stick gaming only for PC and go back to business laptops for mobility needs.
My Lenovo T400 T8400 is also very healthy but it is relatively new only about 2 years ago.
But, I just can not resist good specs laptops...I got myself an i7 gaming laptop from Dell during christmas sale last year, it is stil healthy but it is also new.
Let see the live of those 2 of my last laptops.

Hmm....Sager...I can not find those on my fav stores (even online) here where I live.
It seems that Sager is selling only inside US. I would wanna test that one also :D 
October 19, 2010 6:26:26 PM

Best answer selected by CompFlee.