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October 6, 2010 8:56:59 PM

Hello everybody.

I was looking on frozzen cpu for parts to fit my desire to go under water, but to be really honnest, I know nothing about water cooling except that it keeps temps low :) 

I currently have a cool it eco and was looking to go all in with my config.

I see 1/4 , 3/8, 1/2 tubbing ... I'm kinda lost...

Can anybody give me links to what do I need, what kind of fittings or spacers .

I would like to liquid cool my i5 750 and my 5850(sapphire ref card).
My motherboard is a p7p55d-e evo .If possible my motherboard chipset and my hdd :) 

I've seen this reservoir which I felt in love with (resident evil style) :
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/11226/ex-res-234/Froz...

I also want a 360 radiator that would fit my haf 932.

I feel like im gonna need so many parts ... I just don't know which one to take, I heard 1/2 was better ?
I would like a good pump.


I've seen UV liquid which would rock.


No limit budget (lower is better as always, but do not cut price for a way cheaper part)



Thanks for your knowledge, your time and your help.

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a b B Homebuilt system
October 6, 2010 9:38:11 PM

^+1. Do that and come back with more specific questions.
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October 6, 2010 9:44:43 PM

Just did :) 

What's best : 1/2 1/4 3/8 ?

What clamp, fittings would be the best choice ?

What brands are good ?
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October 6, 2010 9:48:33 PM

Oh and what is having a second loop ?
Dual water cooling ?

Sorry for the newbish questions :) 

We all start at the same heigth isn't it ?
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 6, 2010 11:37:40 PM

I usually go with 1/2" (ID) tubing, I wouldn't personally go below this, but it depends on your case,etc. Either Primoflex LRT or Tygon.

As for barbs, Dangerden is usually my choice. I use the Fat Boys.

Brands, well that depends. Usually, Swiftech, EK, Dangerden and Heat Killer for me for CPU/GPU blocks. I avoid Koolance like the plague as they have some pretty bad products and imo, a $hitty company in the WCing world. Don't get me wrong, their latest CPU WBs are pretty good, but I still don't trust/like them.

For rads: HW Labs, Swiftech, Thermochill, Feser.

As for a 2nd loop, it means having a 2nd loop with it's own components. Usually, for some of the higher end loops, people almost always split the CPU and GPU loop in to their own seperate loops. Meaning the water is completely separated between the two loops. This requires a 2nd pump and rad and the needed WBs.

Also DO NOT put dye,etc in the water. Don't believe the marketing about "this coolant is better than water" or "non conductive fluid": (see: http://skinneelabs.com/coolants.html?page=3 ). If you want colors, use colored tubing. Always use Distilled or deionized water with Kill Coil or PT Nuke. Not worth the problems with coolant: http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?t=22...

edit: Please check testing here: http://skinneelabs.com/ before getting any of the CPU blocks and rads. It really comes down to price vs performance for most of these blocks. For example, between the XT, GTZ, and HF.
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October 7, 2010 1:17:53 AM

Your help is precious, you are gold to me.

I will check it out tonight :) 

Thanks a lot !
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October 7, 2010 5:00:52 AM

Here it is :



I'm pretty sure I'm missing something, that's why I asked help :) 
Fiitings ?
Usefull tip not to noob on my first time ?

Kinda expensive, but it looks overall great, you see where I'm going with the colors xD Flashy haf 932 ;) 
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October 7, 2010 5:05:32 AM

the website from ordering is Frozen Cpu


Here is the text version in case you want to check out some infos on the parts.


:o  WARNING SPOILER IS HIGHLY UNSTRUCTURED AND MIGHT DISTURB YOUR EYES OR EVEN YOUR BRAIN. :pt1cable: 


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Part # Product Description Qty Price Total
ex-blc-690
EK Radeon HD 5850 VGA Liquid Cooling Block - Acetal + Nickel (EK-FC5850-Acetal+Nickel)

* Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 1/2" ID Barb - Black1/2" ID Barb - Black
The G1/4" Barb Fitting fits standard G1/4" ports and secures tubing with its flanged barb. The barb fitting can be used in conjunction with one of our reusable clamps. ($6.50)

$118.45 $118.45
ex-rad-121
Swiftech MCR320 "Quiet Power" Triple 120mm Radiator - Black (MCR320-QP-K)

* Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 1/2" ID Barb - Black1/2" ID Barb - Black
The G1/4" Barb Fitting fits standard G1/4" ports and secures tubing with its flanged barb. The barb fitting can be used in conjunction with one of our reusable clamps. ($6.50)

$71.45 $71.45
ex-pmp-27
Swiftech MCP655-B 12v Water Pump w/ 3/8" Conversion Kit (317 GPH)

* Optional Pump Accessories!: Extra Replacement O-RingExtra Replacement O-Ring
The Laing 12V D5 Pump Replacement O-Ring can save you from getting a new pump. Replace the old worn out o-ring and you are off and running again! ($1.99)
* Optional Pump Accessories!: (UN)Designs 3G Bracket(UN)Designs 3G Bracket
Now you can mount your DDC and D4/D5 pump wherever you want too! With the 3G bracket the only limit is your imagination. This bracket will allow you to mount your pumps in a horizontal or vertical position. This bracket is especially good for the Reservoir style tops with the DDC pumps. By having the pump swivel around the bracket you can help e... ($18.99)

$110.93 $110.93
ex-blc-720
EK Supreme HF Universal CPU Liquid Cooling Block - Rev 2 - Nickel + Acetal (Sockets 775 / 1156 / 1366 / 939 / 940 / 754 / AM2 / AM2+ / AM3)

* Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 1/2" ID Barb - Black1/2" ID Barb - Black
The G1/4" Barb Fitting fits standard G1/4" ports and secures tubing with its flanged barb. The barb fitting can be used in conjunction with one of our reusable clamps. ($6.50)

$86.45 $86.45
ex-res-44
Danger Den Fillport - Blue

* Select Your Barb (Qty. 1): 1/2" ID Barb1/2" ID Barb
New Danger Den hardware is now using the G 1/4" Thread. This barb is designed for that hardware.

$13.99 $13.99
ex-res-187
Bitspower 5.25 Bay Reservoir - Acrylic - UV Blue Seals (BP-WT525AC-CLUVBL)

* Select G 1/4" Fittings (Qty. 2): 1/2" ID Barb1/2" ID Barb
The G1/4" Barb Fitting fits standard G1/4" ports and secures tubing with its flanged barb. The barb fitting can be used in conjunction with one of our reusable clamps. ($5.50)

$60.49 $60.49
cpa-281
Tecnofront AirBox 360 - Acrylic $24.95 $24.95
ex-tub-199
PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/2"ID 3/4"OD with 1/8" Wall - UV Green $2.50 $12.50
ex-tub-198
PrimoChill PrimoFlex PRO LRT Tubing 1/2"ID 3/4"OD with 1/8" Wall - UV Blue $2.50 $12.50
tsl-24
PrimoChill Anti-Kink Coils - 1/2 OD" Tubing - Glossy Blue $3.99 $19.95
tsl-12
PrimoChill Anti-Kink Coils - 1/2 OD" Tubing - UV Brite Green $3.99 $19.95
ex-liq-94
Feser Aqua Non Conductive Ultra Pure Water - 1000 ml (FA-0054) $7.99 $15.98
ex-liq-95
Feser Base Corrosion Blocker - 50ml (FB-0055) $8.99 $17.98
ex-tub-307
Primochill Nylon Reusable UV Reactive Hose Clamp - UV Blue - 3/4" OD $1.29 $12.90
ex-tub-309
Primochill Nylon Reusable UV Reactive Hose Clamp - UV Brite Green - 3/4" OD $1.29 $12.90
Subtotal: $611.37



EDIT : FAIL YOU CAN'T COPY PASTE INSIDE THAT SPOILER AREA SORRY xD
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October 7, 2010 7:02:23 AM

Let us know how the water feels. curious to how this turns out, might inspire me to jump in.
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a c 122 B Homebuilt system
October 7, 2010 7:17:10 AM

Apparently, the skinneelabs' Minnesota tap water is pretty good stuff. :) 
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 7, 2010 12:17:28 PM

^ lol.

@OP:
1. Get PT Nuke. I don't trust Feser additives any more. You DO NOT need it. Did you not read the Skeenee review? There is very little difference between this stuff and plain distilled water. You can get a gallon of distilled water for about $1.50-2.00 at your local grocery store.

2. You may want to get a bigger rad imo, that 360 should be sufficient, but going bigger now will save you time and money in the long run.

3. Check out jabtech, petras,etc for the best deals. Usually, Frozen is higher priced.

http://www.dangerden.com
http://www.petrastechshop.com/
http://www.sidewindercomputers.com/
http://www.jab-tech.com/
http://www.performance-pcs.com
http://www.frozencpu.com/

4. You don't really need Anti kink coils, depending on how tight your bends are.

5. You are missing fans. You will need 3x 120mm for that 360 rad.
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October 7, 2010 4:59:09 PM

Yes I already have the fans :) 


I live in canada and I have to check out if those web sites delivers here.

For the rad, can you tell me which one would fit inside my haf 932 ?

I think the max is 360 ... Otherwise I've seen quad 120 but how the hell I'm I supose to fix it on my case xD
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October 7, 2010 5:22:49 PM

wouldnt it just be better to use the $600 and get a gtx 480 and an aircooler? surely you will get a better performance increase with that then overclocking your whole pc
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October 7, 2010 5:43:10 PM

That would be the other side of the coin.

I'm just shopping right now, and any idea is welcome.
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 7, 2010 8:12:24 PM

^ If you REALLY want to WC the GPUs I recommend a GPU only blocks and some MOSFET/RAM sinks. A MCW60 should do fine.

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wouldnt it just be better to use the $600 and get a gtx 480 and an aircooler? surely you will get a better performance increase with that then overclocking your whole pc

WCing is mostly a one time cost. You can just change brackets and keep using the CPU blocks, rads,etc on the next PC. The brackets are usually pretty cheap. The only problem with this is that you can't swap out the GPU full cover blocks. I'v had my GTZ since the Q6600. It's now on a i7 920. Depending on if LGA2011 and Bulldozer are wort it, I would upgrade to those and when that happens, I'll just move my GTZ over to that. Basically, that's 3 generations of use. You can't say that about other PC components usually.
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October 7, 2010 9:15:16 PM

so not the full block that I took ?
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 7, 2010 10:56:39 PM

^ Well, it depends on if you plan to move the GPU blocks when upgrading. With a full cover blocks, you won't be able to use it with a different card. Meaning, a 5870 block won't work on a GTX480,etc. Get a MCR60 and RAM/MOSFET sinks. Depending on how hot the MOSFETs run, get a Antec Spot cool and direct air flow towards the MOSFETs. If you have good case air flow, you probably won't need it, but it is a good idea to have as much airflow as possible on those MOSFTEs.
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October 8, 2010 5:21:10 PM

Awesome I'll check it out ! Thanks a lot !
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