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[TV Tuner] PCI-E to Mini PCI-E

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January 4, 2011 3:52:15 AM

I'm trying to fit this TV Tuner [ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ] onto this board [ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...] but the TV Tuner is a PCI-E and the board only has a Mini PCI-E slot.

If I yank the included Wifi card off the board (which is in the Mini PCI-E slot) is there an adapter for it?

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January 4, 2011 7:50:03 AM

The TV tuner is nice but the mobo you seem to have posted a link to is actually a whole list of mobos. Please post the link for the exact mobo out of the whole list of mobos there....
The tuner is a PCIe x1 type so it's going to be compatible with the same Slot, it is a waste to look for such adapters or converters since they only lead to bottlenecks..... you'd be better off buying a board with a PCIe X1 slot on it since nowadays nearly all mobos have that slot on them.
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January 4, 2011 6:17:41 PM

Fixed link for the OP.

I'm afraid I have some bad news. The atom board you purchased does not have ANY PCIe slots. The mini-PCIe slot is only for laptop-type expansion cards like WiFi, bluetooth, or HD decoders.

You will not be able to use that TV tuner with that motherboard. You will have to either get a motherboard with a proper PCIe slot, or exchange your TV tuner for an ethernet or USB based one. I recommend the SiliconDust HDHomerun.
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January 10, 2011 3:00:25 AM

rwpritchett said:
Fixed link for the OP.

I'm afraid I have some bad news. The atom board you purchased does not have ANY PCIe slots. The mini-PCIe slot is only for laptop-type expansion cards like WiFi, bluetooth, or HD decoders.

You will not be able to use that TV tuner with that motherboard. You will have to either get a motherboard with a proper PCIe slot, or exchange your TV tuner for an ethernet or USB based one. I recommend the SiliconDust HDHomerun.


Oh darn. I kinda had a feeling about that. I love the board because of it's nVIDIA Ion northbridge, and it's just the right size to fit inside m yold NES chassis, but no PCIe slots kinda makes it a hard choice. There's nothing on Newegg that has both 1 PCIe slot and an nVIDIA Ion northbridge. Guess I'll keep looking.

I like the SiliconDust TV Tuner, but do you have any suggestions for a USB based TV Tuner?
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January 10, 2011 11:54:15 AM

Actually, most ION boards come with one PCIe slot. Keep in mind that a PCIe 1x card will work in 16x, 8x, 4x, and 1x PCIe slots. Here is a list of ION boards you can choose from, many of which have a PCIe slot:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=E...

Now with that being said, if you are in the market for a new mini-ITX low power board to replace the one you have, then forget about atom+ion. The next best thing that is just coming out is the AMD Fusion boards with the Zacate E-350 APU. I suggest you read Bit-Tech's article on some Fusion ITX boards that are coming out very soon (link). The Asus in particular is worth waiting for since it is fanless. The Gigabyte looks awesome too.

For TV tuners, if you don't want to get an ethernet based one and want to go USB check out www.hdtvtunerinfo.com and read up on the various models. According to that site, the AVerTV Volar Max and the HP USB are the best USB tuners.
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January 10, 2011 1:37:49 PM

You're right, both those AMD boards look awesome, but space is also an issue for me. That's why I like boards like the ZOTAC in the OP or this ASUS board [ http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ] It's got a 90W DC power supply, which will really cut down on space.

Admittedly, I am starting to like the ASUS board more than the ZOTAC board because it's almost the exact same specs with a PCIe x16 slot (That is a PCIe slot on the left hand side of the board right?) and the ASUS board take DDR3 memory instead of old DDR2. The only thing I'm concerned about is if I'm using the ASUS board for an HTPC, will the lack of Hyper-Threading (The ZOTAC board has it) really make that much of a difference?
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January 10, 2011 2:29:05 PM

For motherboards that don't have a bundled external power supply, you can purchase a picoPSU.

Here is an example: http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-150-XT-102-power-kit

Basically, it gives your system an external power brick, like a laptop. The Asus board you linked is very nice and comes with a power supply. And yes, the slot on that board is a PCIe-16x so it can use PCIe-1x cards.

I would expect some of the AMD fusion boards to come with a built in power supply, but we'll see in the next few weeks.

There's also a super slim ITX board by newcomer Giada: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It comes with onboard power, unfortunately you have to buy the power brick separately. Not many reviews, but very interesting as it is <1" tall complete with heatsink.

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January 10, 2011 2:40:02 PM

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January 10, 2011 2:43:12 PM

rwpritchett said:
For motherboards that don't have a bundled external power supply, you can purchase a picoPSU.

Here is an example: http://www.mini-box.com/picoPSU-150-XT-102-power-kit

Basically, it gives your system an external power brick, like a laptop. The Asus board you linked is very nice and comes with a power supply. And yes, the slot on that board is a PCIe-16x so it can use PCIe-1x cards.

I would expect some of the AMD fusion boards to come with a built in power supply, but we'll see in the next few weeks.

There's also a super slim ITX board by newcomer Giada: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It comes with onboard power, unfortunately you have to buy the power brick separately. Not many reviews, but very interesting as it is <1" tall complete with heatsink.


Thanks for the advice!
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March 7, 2011 9:32:09 PM

rwpritchett said:
Now with that being said, if you are in the market for a new mini-ITX low power board to replace the one you have, then forget about atom+ion. The next best thing that is just coming out is the AMD Fusion boards with the Zacate E-350 APU.


This is true, but anecdotally, the AMD platform is not nearly as well supported by Linux, so if you're planning on running MythTV, for example, you would be better off with the Atom/Ion choice.
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