$1100 Gaming / Video Editing PC

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Approximate Purchase Date: Christmas 2010

Budget Range: $1200 Before Rebates

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, HD Video Editing (hobby, home video stuff).

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers, OS

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: Newegg

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: I've listed some initial choices below, but I am flexible based on advice!

Overclocking: No

SLI or Crossfire: No

Monitor Resolution: 1920x1080

Additional Comments: I would like a quiet PC! (and low power consumption in as many components as possible)

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Hi all, so I am building a new PC for two upcoming events: the release of Duke Nukem Forever, and the birth of my first child (don't ask me to rank those in order of importance). DNF will most likely not need cutting edge hardware, but I will be playing many more games after that so want to be prepared. I will be editing HD video (.mts files) of the newborn in Sony Vegas. Based on my research on these forums, I really think an AMD hexacore CPU is for me. I will take its improved performance in video rendering over the better gaming performance I might get from an Intel i5/i7 at the same price point (my budget obviously doesn't provide for a 6-core intel.)

And as my note above says, I will take quiet and low power whenever possible, even if it costs a bit extra. My goal is to find a build that currently costs around $1200 with the hope that it drops about $100 before Christmas.

Theoretical build so far:

CPU: 1090T - $265
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103849&cm_re=1090t-_-19-103-849-_-Product

GPU: XFX Radeon 5850 - $259
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150494&cm_re=5850-_-14-150-494-_-Product

SSD: OCZ Vertex 60gb - $129
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227394

HDD: WD Green 1.5tb - $84
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136513

Blu-Ray Burner: Lite-On 12x - $109
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106346&cm_re=blu_ray_burner-_-27-106-346-_-Product


CPU Fan: ? (Reviews note that the stock fan on the 1090t is pretty loud, so I'll replace it).
Motherboard: ?
Power Supply: ?
Case: ?
Memory: ?


Thanks!





 
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Consider Adobe Premiere CS5 for video editing. As of CS5 it supports mercury playback engine that allows you to render on your nvidia GPU in realtime.

GTX 460/470 seam that would fall in to your budget and will both allow you realtime rendering of hd video.

have a look at MPE: http://cs5.org/?p=594

Be aware that as of yet, neither card is officially supported, but both work in gtx 285 class (doesnt get any faster than this at the moment). It is unclear when will gtx 4xx products be supported and how big of speed advantage they will offer over vanilla gtx 285.

unfortunately this does NOT work with ATi cards.

p.s. you may want to look into intel CPU. If you render video on GPU, 6 core will be idle, and intel quad is faster in day to...

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Consider Adobe Premiere CS5 for video editing. As of CS5 it supports mercury playback engine that allows you to render on your nvidia GPU in realtime.

GTX 460/470 seam that would fall in to your budget and will both allow you realtime rendering of hd video.

have a look at MPE: http://cs5.org/?p=594

Be aware that as of yet, neither card is officially supported, but both work in gtx 285 class (doesnt get any faster than this at the moment). It is unclear when will gtx 4xx products be supported and how big of speed advantage they will offer over vanilla gtx 285.

unfortunately this does NOT work with ATi cards.

p.s. you may want to look into intel CPU. If you render video on GPU, 6 core will be idle, and intel quad is faster in day to day operations than amd.

p.p.s. yes i realize i told you to go complete dark side... intel/nvidia...
 
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Great input, guys. I didn't know GPU acceleration was available for video rendering. I think I will wait and see what the next version of Sony Vegas supports (due out tomorrow, coincidentally - the wiki page for Sony Vegas Pro 10 notes that it should include GPU accelerated AVC encoding). But if I can get the GPU involved. I will definitely consider an i7 instead of the x6.
 

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If I were into video editing, i'd drop whatever program I was using and get Premiere cs5. Realtime hd video editing has no alternative.

In fact I plan to upgrade my ati 4850 to gtx 460 for this among other reasons.

WWBD you should look more into MPE and decide if it worth it to you.
 
Actually Icrontic got excellent results X6 + MPE in CS5 Premiere and u dun have to deal with mobos that cost an arm and a leg hehe
A case for GPU computing: Adobe Premiere Pro CS5 and the Mercury Playback Engine
http://tech.icrontic.com/articles/reviews/a-case-for-gpu-computing-adobe-premiere-pro-cs5-and-the-mercury-playback-engine/
This project consists of compressed 640×480 video footage. These small video files were being eaten alive by the massive 1090T hexa-core processor and 8GB of RAM. Premiere Pro CS5′s increased performance with multi-core systems coupled with bleeding fast hardware will make fast work of any simple projects such as this, not giving the GPU enough work to really make a difference. These results do suggest that if you’re editing small-time video footage, you will not benefit much from using Mercury Playback.

Vegas for the most part strictly CPU bound software

 

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It seems the new GPU support in Vegas is strictly for rendering to Sony AVCHD. It doesn't help with real-time display while you're editing (which it sounds like premiere/mercury does). And I don't think that I will be rendering much to AVCHD, unless that's the native file structure of Blu-Rays.