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I7 2600K $2.5K build- Ordering Now- Your Ideas Welcome!

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January 6, 2011 3:28:22 AM

It just so happens I hit a long milestone today, and have FINALLY saved enough for my new build. Man, I have waited embarrassingly long enough for this, so I want to get it right. I hate getting into a first of line release CPU, but i7 2600K is just looking too good for the money. At some point you have to pull the trigger, and I am still on a p4 3.2 with AGP! I don't even have a SATA drive drive yet let alone a PCI-e slot! :non:  :lol: 

But that's getting ready to change in a big way. :D 

I got every last drop out of this system over the last 7 years though, and it's still kicking! I did it right then, and wanna do it right again. I feel the call of Crysis 2 coming up, and I need to run CS4/5 for heavy video editing, and audio production apps as well. Every component needs to be upper end, and my budget is roughly 2K, maybe a bit more. Box, Win 7 Pro, keyboard, and high DPI gaming mouse included.

This will be going on a 65" Mitsubishi DLP at 1920 x 1080, so the monitor's covered already. I also have a second smaller monitor I suppose I can coax Quick Sync with.

CPU
Not in question. i7 2600K it is.

CPU COOLER
Clueless. Am I stuck with stock for now?

MOTHERBOARD
I want the option to OC, although I am not likely to do it at first. So I won't mind spending more on a good OC board. Must have firewire. (IEEE 1394)

I have some questions:

1) I have not run SLI or CF yet, and want to know which setup overall has the least problems with games. Specifically, first person shooter games- I don't play anything else. This will help define the MB, unless I can work in a board that supports both SLI/CF in the price. I am hoping that a rough low price of $370 for the CPU will help with that. I will only consider Gigabyte or ASUS, although I must say Intel boards have been rock solid in my experience. They just don't usually include many OC features, and this time around I want to include more OC features in this build.

POWER SUPPLY
I am thinking CM 800 Silent Pro Gold. I like it, and just put one in for a client. It is indeed dead silent. But enough for SLI/CF? I might consider a higher watt version, but darn pricey. Dunno.

DRIVES
I definitely am going with two SSD, 1-64 GB, and 1- 128 GB. I suppose trying to get a 1 TB SATA drive will throw the cost over, but that's cool- I can just use the MyBook 500 GB USB drive I already have for storage, and DVD's if need be. No raid just yet, thanks.

CASE
Thinking CM Cosmos 1000, but am totally open here. Yes, full tower only. I want a top mounted firewire port.

GPU
Can I barely squeeze in a GTX 580? Or is 570 it? I usually prefer ATI, but lately not so much.

GPU COOLER
Totally open here. Clueless as to best.

RAM
Highest speed I can get DDR3, and as much of it as can I fit in the 2 to 2.2K price range. Win 7 pro 64-bit OPSYS. At least 6 GB, preferably 12. Why 12? Because I will be actively mounting up a RAM drive for some special uses.

Answer all, answer some, answer none, any help appreciated! Suggest a high DPI gaming mouse or the coolest keyboard! But this is going down baby, as soon as I finalize selections. I can't wait, and am totally stoked about this.

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January 6, 2011 4:02:55 AM

Im thinking of making my own Sandy Bridge build (although a lot cheaper :p )

my advice:

Cpu cooler: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00350O5DK/187-5521359...
this cooler is i think the 3rd best right now (not sure dont quote me :p ) and really good performance for the dollar.

GPU: Possibly crossfire 6950's (i hear you can OC them or something to be the same as a 6970 but i think thats just a myth)

CPU Thermal Compound: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045JCFLY?ie=UTF8&tag...
I hear this stuff is the best by far

As for everything else im not sure i dont really look at things in that price range :p  good luck with your build!
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January 6, 2011 6:02:07 AM

I believe with Sandy Bridge, it's dual channel RAM. So 4 or 8 or 16GB, not 6 or 12 or 24GB.
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January 6, 2011 6:06:23 AM

jorn978 said:
Im thinking of making my own Sandy Bridge build (although a lot cheaper :p )

my advice:

Cpu cooler: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00350O5DK/187-5521359...
this cooler is i think the 3rd best right now (not sure dont quote me :p ) and really good performance for the dollar.

GPU: Possibly crossfire 6950's (i hear you can OC them or something to be the same as a 6970 but i think thats just a myth)

CPU Thermal Compound: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0045JCFLY?ie=UTF8&tag...
I hear this stuff is the best by far

As for everything else im not sure i dont really look at things in that price range :p  good luck with your build!



its not a myth.... http://www.techpowerup.com/articles/overclocking/vidcar...

its confirmed... even a friend of mine has done it.... its quite easy from what I have heard
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January 6, 2011 2:31:56 PM

Yeah, thats the article i read, im just not sure if that will work for everyone and how long that you'll be able to do it
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January 6, 2011 3:36:08 PM

So am I understanding this right?

The overall chipset platform is P67 with H67 being the variant that provides onboard display port. As I am reading, it appears that to use the SB Quick Sync features for video encoding, one must be using the onboard port tied to the CPU, as opposed to using the main PCI-x GPU?

I do have the need for video encoding, so I am really wanting to use Quick Sync features.

It's looking like an ASUS board this time, and I am scoping on the Deluxe version of their line, cause I can't find the EVO or Sabertooth 67 available anywhere yet.
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-P8P67DE&tit...
Asus P8P67 DELUXE LGA1155

This board appears to have another heat sink over the Pro version, and adds a front panel USB 3.0 box. I am really looking forward to that EFI Bios with mouse support and a real GUI.

Also, I hear you on the dual channel, forgot about that. So probably go for 8 GB DDR3 2200 in 2X4 GB, as the board supports it.

Some vendors claim arrival on i7 2600K on 1/9/11. That's Sunday, so looks like then or Monday-Tuesday I will order- or as soon as they add it.
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January 6, 2011 4:21:02 PM

1) For best gaming, spend your money on a great graphics card. Today, that will be the GTX580. At 1080P It will be outstanding with today's games.
The Nvidia CUDA capabilities may also help with CS4.

2) Get a motherboard with a P67 chipset. You can not overclock to any effect with a H67 motherboard, even with a 2600K.
Be certain that the motherboard has sli capability to allow for a future upgrade. Some of the cheaper boards have crossfirex only.
Past that, Asus or Gigabyte should be equally good. EVGA or Intel might be OK also. I think I might go with Asus since they seem to have had more time to develop and work out the inevitable glitches.

3) The best air cooler around is the prolimatech megahalems rev b. It is also very easy to install.

4) I am not enamored with cm as a psu vendor. I like PC P&C, Seasonic, Antec, Corsair, and XFX. A 650w or 750w will do. If you are planning on future SLI, then get a psu that will handle dual GTX580. I think that will mean something in the 950w range. You need to verify that, as it is beyond my experience.

5) I love the SSD. Why two? Just get one. Larger ssd's are faster. They can read more internal nand chips in parallel. Sort of an ingernal raid-0.
Intitally, I would install on a Hard drive. Later, clone it to a SSD, and use the hard drive for storage and backup. Gen3 SSD's are being announced now, and will me faster and cheaper. Availability looks to be soon, like this quarter. I will do exactly that on my new sandy build.

6) For ram, more is better than faster. I would get a 8gb kit(2 x 4gb) With an on-die memory controller, feeding the cpu with ram data should not be a performance issue with any speed ram. I expect the real FPS performance(vs. synthetic benchmark) difference will be similar to nehalem which is only 1-2%. DDR3-1600 looks to be the sweet spot. For CS4, you might even want to go 16gb.

7) Reviews on the cosmos 1000 case indicate poor airflow. If you love the case get it, but I think I would look for something different.

8) If your gpu has dual slot direct exhaust, like the GTX580 reference cooler. then that is all you need. OEM gpu coolers do a good job of getting heat off of the gpu die, and shows well on open testbeds, but in a case, then they just dump that heat back into the case where case cooling has to deal with it. In my experience, that increases both the gpu AND the cpu temperatures by 5c. EVGA sells for $10 a high airflow bracket for the GTX580 that is supposed to help.

9) For keyboard and mice, I suggest you visit your local comp store and check them out in person.

10) I am clueless on quick sync.

-----------------good luck--------------
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January 6, 2011 4:52:54 PM

I just completed ordering my SB build.

Here's what I bought:
Still need to buy:
2500k - 2600k pending availability
Asus p8p67 Deluxe

case: Silverstone FT02 case
CPU Cooler: Noctua NH-D14
memory: G.Skill Ripjaws X 1600 DDR3 2x4gb
SSD: Crucial C300
HD: 1tb Caviar black 64mb2
Vid: AMD 6950 (soon to be 6970) (possibly X2 in the future)
PSU: Thermaltake 850
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January 6, 2011 5:34:06 PM

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That psu what Thermalake model is it btw?


I went with the Thermaltake 850 Black widow. Why? Well, this was one of my least confident choices.

It's the cheapest 850 that is also modular and has decent reviews on newegg that fit my needs. It might be a bit overkill, but I wanted the capacity in case I go crossfire.
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January 6, 2011 5:51:07 PM

Well for once I am not going to cut too many corners and go all out I think.... I might regret it, but I have taken my budget up to $2,500.00+

And here's where I am at so far, only lacking the MB/CPU (cause I can't get them just yet till next week.) This is my cart as it sits, and I thank you all for your input:

1 EVGA SuperClocked GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 015-P3-1582-AR Video Card
Item #:N82E16814130590
Return Policy: VGA Replacement Only Return Policy
$529.99

1 NVIDIA Free Mafia 2 Game Coupon
Item #:N82E16800999247
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$0.00

1 COOLER MASTER HAF X RC-942-KKN1 Black Steel/ Plastic ATX Full Tower Computer Case
Item #:N82E16811119225
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$199.99

1 Logitech G500 Wired Laser Gaming Mouse
Item #:N82E16826104318
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$69.99

1 COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm sleeve CPU Cooler
Item #:N82E16835103065
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$29.99

1 Arctic Silver AA-1.75G Thermal Compound
Item #:N82E16835100014
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$4.99

1 Pioneer Black Blu-ray Burner SATA BDR-206BKS
Item #:N82E16827129061
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$119.99

1 LITE-ON 2-Tone Wired Keyboard
Item #:N82E16823107120
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$6.99

2 Zalman N Series SSD0128N1 2.5" MLC Internal Solid State Drive (SSD)
Item #:N82E16820118005
Return Policy: Limited Replacement Only Return Policy
-$20.00 Instant
$499.98
$459.98

1 G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2000 (PC3 16000) Desktop Memory
Item #:N82E16820231407
Return Policy: Memory Standard Return Policy
$159.99

1 COOLER MASTER Silent Pro Gold Series RSA00-80GAD3-US 1000W Power Supply
Item #:N82E16817171056
Return Policy: Standard Return Policy
$199.99

1 Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders
Item #:N82E16832116758
Return Policy: Software Standard Return Policy
$139.99

Grand Total: $1,940.79 Shipped to my door ($18.91 Shipping, 3 day)

I am figuring $600.00 or so for i7 2600k and ASUS P8P67 DELUXE.

Should be around 2.5K, and about the only sacrifice was 8 GB RAM instead of 16. I'll add more in a few months. I upped the SSD's to two 128 GB. The Zalman's were good all around performers. Going with the HAF X- better airflow. Upped the PSU to 1000w, just in case when/if I go SLI GTX 580.

Now can I finally play S.t.a.l.k.e.r COP without lagging? Sometime around next Saturday, gonna know (I hope)!
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January 6, 2011 6:08:04 PM

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580 is a waste of money and cooler master psu's are garbage. What monitor are you going with? What resolution?


Garbage? :lol:  Aren't you exaggerating just a bit? The 800 Silent Pro Gold took top efficiency ratings under load. This is a $ 200 PS! Garbage? :pfff: 

As to the 580 well, WTF. I am running at 1920 x 1080 and want top notch graphics on max. I just put in a 570 into a client rig. I tested it and was ok but Crysis 2 gonna need some extra to get ultra high at that res. I can't afford two 570's, and I don't like 460's- they're too loud.
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January 6, 2011 6:33:16 PM

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Thats nice. I'd still take the corsair over any coolermaster PSU.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As for the 580. Wait 3 weeks till the 560's hit. Should be 30% faster as a pair then the 580 and cost less


That's nice. But in 6 months when GTX 580's are going for 300, another one of those and I'm set for quite a while at or near the very top.

As to 6870- With a 65" Mitsu DLP at 1920 x 1080 over HDMI, I have no need or desire to mess with multiple monitors. Unless I was to get two more of these. :D  Talk about overkill!


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January 6, 2011 6:49:00 PM

geofelt said:
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5) I love the SSD. Why two? Just get one. Larger ssd's are faster. They can read more internal nand chips in parallel. Sort of an ingernal raid-0.
Intitally, I would install on a Hard drive. Later, clone it to a SSD, and use the hard drive for storage and backup. Gen3 SSD's are being announced now, and will me faster and cheaper. Availability looks to be soon, like this quarter. I will do exactly that on my new sandy build.


Well in A/V production there has always been the long standing principle of at least two drives when you are serving up large files- 1 for opsys, 1- for media. This also works with games- I always put them on the second drive. And it works quite well. So things for me are no different here, even though there is the inherent performance boost of SSD there over HDD's already. This will just make it that much better.

I hear you on the cloning, but is that because people are having trouble installing Win 7 onto SSD's? Or why would you need to do that? Thanks for your comments.
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January 6, 2011 6:57:34 PM

Being a lazy person, I'm not even going to bother reading what other people suggested, but this is what I suggest.

Intel Core i7-2600K (obviously)

Asus P8P67 PRO
2x Radeon 6970

Corsair AX850

Silverstone FT02

Intel X25-m 120GB

2x Samsung Spinpoint F4EG 2TB

Thermalright Silver Arrow

8GB Patriot Memory

My original list of parts included two GTX 580s and an ASUS Maximus IV board, but it went well over $2500. I think this build is a bit under $2500, though, so consider those two things as suggested as well.
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January 6, 2011 7:05:55 PM

studioman22 said:
Well in A/V production there has always been the long standing principle of at least two drives when you are serving up large files- 1 for opsys, 1- for media. This also works with games- I always put them on the second drive. And it works quite well. So things for me are no different here, even though there is the inherent performance boost of SSD there over HDD's already. This will just make it that much better.

I hear you on the cloning, but is that because people are having trouble installing Win 7 onto SSD's? Or why would you need to do that? Thanks for your comments.


The advantage of two drives is that you can put the inputs on one, and the outputs on the other. Then i/o does not need to move the access arm from one to the other as much. That is a lot of time saved in computer time. With a SSD, the access time is negligible, so there is no advantage there.

Several Gen 3 drives are being announced at CES2011 this week. They are advertising 450-500mb/s sequential transfer speeds on 6gb sata. And 60k iops. Impressive. So, .. much as I want my new sandy to perform optimally right out of the box, I know I will suffer buyers remorse perhaps within the month if I jump on some of the inventory clearance sales I see today.

I have a spare velociraptor on which I will build the OS. I can get everything into production on it. When I get a gen3 ssd, I will only need to clone the VR to the SSD. I have done this in the past, and it is simplicity itself. I used Acronis true image. For a one time use, you can download the trial version which should work fine. I liked it so much that I bought the CD package anyway. When you install the OS, the key is to specify AHCI(not the default IDE, or raid which is a superset of AHCI) as the sata mode in the bios. That way, windows 7 will install trim supporting drivers.
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January 6, 2011 7:06:02 PM

Now that I've taken a bit of time to read the thread, I see that you originally had a single graphics card and a bunch of peripherals as well. Replace the 6970s with a single 580, and, since the parts I listed came in at a bit under $2500 (assuming $600 for the motherboard and CPU) you should have plenty of room in your budget for all the peripherals you had listed. Also, a couple of the parts I linked are out of stock; you may want to ignore those suggestions. :whistle: 
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January 6, 2011 9:29:16 PM

Just as follow up, I pulled the trigger on the stuff in my cart (as posted above), and feel good about what I have ordered. I still have the MB/CPU to get, and hopefully I can get a new i7 2600K before they sell out. I'll be watching, ready and decided when they post those sukkas!

Thanks again for the comments, and this thread was worth it to me, as there were several good suggestions I followed. I had done most of the research already on all this stuff. Once I have the build done, in a couple weeks I'll post a "how it went and how it performs" follow up. Not so embarrassed to put my specs in my sig now. :)  So, I will.
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January 6, 2011 10:05:27 PM

Ideally you should of waited till you got the cpu/mobo before you ordered your parts because some of that hardware like ssd's, memory and video card prices are dropping like rocks.
I agree with going with the GTX580. I would have went with the 570 probably but hey, what the hell.

Oh and the psu you got is waaay better than the Corsair that psychosaysdie suggested. Better efficiency rating(gold), WAY better user reviews, and silent. 82A on 1 rail! Much better than that Corsair's puny 40a x 2. Good call.
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January 6, 2011 10:31:56 PM

geekapproved said:
Ideally you should of waited till you got the cpu/mobo before you ordered your parts because some of that hardware like ssd's, memory and video card prices are dropping like rocks.
I agree with going with the GTX580. I would have went with the 570 probably but hey, what the hell.

Oh and the psu you got is waaay better than the Corsair that psychosaysdie suggested. Better efficiency rating(gold), WAY better user reviews, and silent. 82A on 1 rail! Much better than that Corsair's puny 40a x 2. Good call.


No! My PSU is GARBAGE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:lol: 

Thanks. I felt same, and I believe I will be quite happy with all that silent, mean power.

As to waiting, I hear you, but I've been waiting 7 years brother, and I am not waiting any more. I just want this done so I can move on. And I STILL have to wait on CPU at least. I ordered all this from Newegg, but after just talking to CS there, they are clueless about when they will carry the i7 2600K. They are probably going to lose that sale, cause I am SICK of waiting. First decent price I find on my P8P67 Deluxe and i7, and I'm doing it. End of story.
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January 6, 2011 10:37:00 PM

That is the mobo I decided on also. It was either that or GA-p67-UD5. IDK yet if I am going to go with 2500k or 2600k though.

I would have gotten a logitech g9x or a roccat kone +. I have and love both 5700+dpi like the g500. I have a g500 too, but I don't like the way it feels, but then again some ppl don't like the roccat kone + or either grip on the g9x (the the wide is similar to the g500)

The PSU you got is decent, I would have sprung a little bit more for a nicer corsair or seasonic, but it is still decent to my knowledge (which is limited a/b PSUs).

I fought over getting that case or the corsair graphite 600t (which is a big mid tower), I went wit the graphite 600t though

Good choice on the 580! Everyone knows that ATI uses ground up puppy bones to make their circuit boards, but no one wants to talk about it.

Given that yours is a media computer, I would guess you are definitely going to want a different keyboard sometime. I had the lite on keyboard and I thought it was garbage. You should see the WADS on it from 3 months of fps gaming on it ... they are dented and dead :/ 

EDIT: Your choice of cooler was probably better than mine. I went with the Noctua NH-d14 which is probably not necessary,

Very nice build though I hope that you enjoy it!
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January 6, 2011 10:47:59 PM

^+1 I just don't have the knowledge to be so vocal a/b it.
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January 6, 2011 11:13:33 PM

The lowest price I see on a Corsair AX1200 is about $280 shipped. Your reviews rate it 9.8 out of 10. Very sweet PSU, I will not argue that. Very high price too. They rate the CM 1200 gold a 9 out of 10. So I guess my 1000w will be around the same. It took some serious self slapping to even spend what I did on a fricken PSU. $200? INSANE. The last PSU I bought for myself those years ago was around 50 bucks, and that was high THEN. This is getting ridiculous.

Sorry, but I refuse to have buyer's remorse before I even get the sukka. The damn thing was way too much. But I did it. I refuse even one penny more for a darn PSU. :non: 

Please dear God, just let me be happy? Just this once? :sarcastic: 
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January 7, 2011 12:05:12 AM

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Your actually listening to idiot reviews on newegg and Efficiency alone means NOTHING.

BTW - You're actually saying a CM psu is better then a Corsair? You're obviously clueless. Corsair is number 1 when it comes to power supplies.

Read noobs : PSU i suggested

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

An CM 1200W Gold PSU :

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...

Just incase you were wondering how a CM 1200W compared with a Corsair AX1200.. here's the link.. It's what i run and it's amazing

http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...



Don't get your panties in a wad sister, I never said a CM psu is better than a Corsair. Learn to read.

It's backed up with the same warranty as the Corsair and the single 82a rail is sweat.


It's not your computer so don't get all upset fanboy, let him be happy with what he bought without criticizing everybody's stuff as you seem to always do on this forum.






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January 7, 2011 12:19:34 AM

You would be surprised what you would learn by actually reading some of those user reviews. There's at least 8 people on the first 5 pages of reviews (out of 49 pages) that said it failed within a month to a year.

I wouldn't buy that model no matter what "Mr. Guru" says from testing one unit.

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January 7, 2011 12:39:45 AM

geekapproved said:
You would be surprised what you would learn by actually reading some of those user reviews. There's at least 8 people on the first 5 pages of reviews (out of 49 pages) that said it failed within a month to a year.

I wouldn't buy that model no matter what "Mr. Guru" says from testing one unit.


I value many of those reviews too. They're not all noobs. And statistically, when you have a lot of people rating a product over a long time who actually own it and use it, that is a very valuable measuring stick to me. It also says something about the long term failure rate/dependability. You cannot get those stats from any one "guru" test review.
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January 7, 2011 11:14:28 AM

studioman22 said:
I value many of those reviews too. They're not all noobs. And statistically, when you have a lot of people rating a product over a long time who actually own it and use it, that is a very valuable measuring stick to me. It also says something about the long term failure rate/dependability. You cannot get those stats from any one "guru" test review.


True. While you can discount some reviews (especially mobo reviews) where the person say's it's DOA, a lot of those can be chalked up to user error. But when you talking about psu's, and it worked for a while and then quit say within a month to a year, you can bet that's not user error, but hardware failure.

If you look at the Silent Pro Gold reviews, you'll see that out of 36 reviews (all models) there's not one DOA or failure.
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January 7, 2011 11:47:13 AM

Wow, it's times like these you can really get a sense of who the slimeballs are trying to get your money and price gouge. Neither the board or the CPU are in stock anywhere, and yet some vendors are trying to make you think that have them ready for shipment.

:fou:  Kiss it. :non: 

It SO pays to stick with reputable vendors. Looks like I'm going to be waiting- my least favorite thing to do at this point- another week or so to even order it. :sleep: 

As to some of the other things people have commented on:

The G500- I went for that cause it has TEN mouse buttons and super high DPI. It's going to take some getting used to, but I'll learn it. Again, price is insane at 70 bucks. But this time I wanted the best.

The way cheap keyboard- Keyboards are one place I have never needed to spend any money. Heck, you can get a used one all day long at your local goodwill for 2 bucks. I run an N52 gamepad controller which is great- built like a tank- but limited for some games like BF2 where you have a zillion different controls. So in games my keyboard sees limited use anyway.

The Hyper 212 Plus- rated highly, the price was right and the performance stellar. Since I am not an OCer (yet), and will probably not even try it at first, I don't need to really consider more that that for now. The stock cooler would have probably been fine, but I considered this an investment to keep that CPU nice and cool for the long term.

The Panasonic Blu ray burner- I don't about you guys, but I have been through nearly every brand of DVD burner cause I use them a lot to burn media all the time. They last me usually just less than a year. My current Panasonic however has lasted over two years-so they are getting my money this time around. The price was definitely competitive for a blu ray burner, and they've earned my trust. We'll see if this one is as good as their last.
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January 7, 2011 3:58:15 PM

Studioman, tbh, I feel like you have a lot of fat on your build that isn't necessary, but that's just me.

gtx 580 isn't necessary if you're playing on 1900x1200. Neither is a 1000k psu. 2 128 ssds, well, if you hvae your reasons but one should be more than enough.

If I were you, I'd save myself some money on these 3 parts and get yourself a nice 30 inch LCD instead. You'll see a much better quality of computing from that.

As for the keyboard, I disagree. I believe that the keyboard is THE most important item to put thought into. THe I/O of the computer is supremely important, ie..mouse, keyboard, lcd. For example, I use the IBM Model M. Old school baby. 5 pounds, made of solid stuff with the lovely tactile clicky noises. I'm a writer so that feel is very important to me.
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January 8, 2011 1:28:25 AM

Update:
Found an interesting vendor. Ordered my i7 2600K and ASUS P8P67 Deluxe. They just got the boards in stock, and the CPUs will be in next week.

But get this:
We saw that Micro Center priced that chip at about $370. I just beat that price by 50 bucks and got the CPU for 319.95!!!

And not only that, I talked to a guy there that was both friendly and made great conversation with me. He knew all about SB, and shared my enthusiasm for it. Clearly another geek, and my kind of vendor! Anyone want to know who and where send me a pm.

We're rolling baby, now just hurry up and wait. The rest is already on the way from Newegg.

Yeah, there's a little fat there, I'll give you that. But I have been starving for oh so long. Not no mo. This is going to be one slamming little rig. Without Corsair.

The grand total shipped to my door for everything: $ 2,519.01
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January 10, 2011 5:08:07 PM

johnnylml said:
Congrats on building the rig!
Thanks for commenting on my thread btw.
I'm building a system similar to yours. Same CPU/Mobo.
I updated my build. So it would be cool if people could review it. Thanks.
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/302252-31-gaming-buil...


Thanks. I looked into that Antec 1200, and after it was all said and done, decided on the HAF X.

When minimal noise becomes a requirement, it can change your component selection. If I remember right, some people thought the 1200 was too loud and had some other issues. But I am after the High Air Flow (HAF) this case provides, even though there will still be some noise.

Minimal noise is also a big reason I went with the CM Silent Pro Gold 1Kw PSU. The "Silent" in the name really does mean something. It is darn near silent.

I am probably going to order up some acoustic lining as well for a few more total dba reduction. After listening to fans for seven years, I am ready for some peace and quiet.
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January 10, 2011 5:35:03 PM

studioman22 said:
Wow, it's times like these you can really get a sense of who the slimeballs are trying to get your money and price gouge. Neither the board or the CPU are in stock anywhere, and yet some vendors are trying to make you think that have them ready for shipment.

:fou:  Kiss it. :non: 

It SO pays to stick with reputable vendors. Looks like I'm going to be waiting- my least favorite thing to do at this point- another week or so to even order it. :sleep: 

As to some of the other things people have commented on:

The G500- I went for that cause it has TEN mouse buttons and super high DPI. It's going to take some getting used to, but I'll learn it. Again, price is insane at 70 bucks. But this time I wanted the best.

The way cheap keyboard- Keyboards are one place I have never needed to spend any money. Heck, you can get a used one all day long at your local goodwill for 2 bucks. I run an N52 gamepad controller which is great- built like a tank- but limited for some games like BF2 where you have a zillion different controls. So in games my keyboard sees limited use anyway.

The Hyper 212 Plus- rated highly, the price was right and the performance stellar. Since I am not an OCer (yet), and will probably not even try it at first, I don't need to really consider more that that for now. The stock cooler would have probably been fine, but I considered this an investment to keep that CPU nice and cool for the long term.

The Panasonic Blu ray burner- I don't about you guys, but I have been through nearly every brand of DVD burner cause I use them a lot to burn media all the time. They last me usually just less than a year. My current Panasonic however has lasted over two years-so they are getting my money this time around. The price was definitely competitive for a blu ray burner, and they've earned my trust. We'll see if this one is as good as their last.


Studioman,

Let me say first off that I really like your build and I wasn't trying to criticize it at all.

The G-500 you may like better than I did, it is a great mouse, I just do a lot of FPS gaming in super nerd leagues and I prefer the feel of my g9x and my roccat kone +

The keyboard I still can't agree with you on, but idk you were running the n52, but you know what you like so I am sure it'll be great for you

The hyper 212 is great I'm sure. I feel like my noctua nh-d14 is going to be overkill. I think the hyper 212 will be more than enough especially given your regards on OCing

You did get the 2600k at a great price, I went with the 2500k, but I got the same mobo.

I don't exactly follow what you are saying about the gouging etc I got mine from newgg with the tracking ## and it will be here tomorrow.

Re: Extra Fat in your build: I definitely DEFINITELY understand wanting to have the best even though you may not 'need' it.

I just hope that you enjoy it and have a great time with it and enjoy it!

Good Luck!

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January 10, 2011 7:00:43 PM

Thanks, and criticize all you want!

Much can be accomplished through criticism and discussion, I just don't believe it needs the kind of teeth PsychoSD uses sometimes. It kind of puts people on edge, you know?

Anyway, the cheap keyboard I got to go with this is laughable. That is until I look back and see that 83% of 536 reviews gave it 5 eggs. 12 more % gave it 4 eggs. At $ 6.99, can't be that bad.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I am just kind of soaking in all the features this P8P67 Deluxe has after reading the manual. Separate hardware led status lights for each part of the board, plus a 2 digit LCD readout with all the diagnostic codes listed in the manual. I don't know about diagnostics made easy, but diagnostics made easier for sure.

The bios reset switch near the rest of the plugins? Not crazy about that. Not about the switch, just about the location. Too easy to accidentally push. Another good reason why when I install an op system, I always enable all hardware on the board, so that the install is not sensing any disabled hardware. All drivers/hw on install, disable later.

If the BIOS battery goes, or now if I hit that darn switch, at least it will boot into Win 7 without sending me on a goose chase for hardware drivers that suddenly enable in the default BIOS.

Just getting used to all this new bling. :( 
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January 11, 2011 7:06:00 PM

Ok I confess. I gave the company I ordered the cpu/mb from a full day and a half after SB release (1/9/11) to get me a tracking number. This was ordered last week, but as of today Tuesday, still no email. So I canceled the order, went with newegg for both (they already got the rest of the order), and will probably see my shipped status by the end of the day. When it was all said and done, newegg actually saved me money because of a much better shipping price for the exact same UPS 3- day. $ 9 newegg vs. $ 23 company.

Only way I could do this was because the company just charged a temporary authorization, to be charged in full once shipped. I can at least say I appreciated that situation, leaving me the option to cancel, and still have access to all the funds.

Oh well. :sarcastic: 

No more waiting than I have to! :non: 
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January 12, 2011 5:24:03 AM

Please get a Nvidia card. With CS5 you will love the Cuda support. I suggest the 460 but go for the 580 if it supports the Cuda hack. I plan a similar build for mainly video editing.
I7-2600k
Gigabyte UD4 (maybe UD7)
16gb of ram
1tb 7200rpm SATA 6 OS drive
64gb or 128gb SSD scratch disk
2 - 2tb 7200rpm SATA 3 storage drives
I'm waiting for the GTX560(I don't game solely for CS5)
FireWire PCI card (2x800 & 1x400)
USB 3 PCI Card
Lightpeak PCI Card (Eventually)
1 - BluRay Burner
2 - DVD Burners (Already own 2)
1 - Rosewill 75-1 Card Reader
CM 690 II Advanced Case
Coolermaster GX Series 750w (This should handle this system at full load)
2 - 24 inch Matte Monitors for Proper Color for Photo Editing
Tons of Fans
My keyboard setup is Microsoft Wireless 8000.(Already have it)

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January 13, 2011 5:01:48 PM

byebye and malmental thanks for the replies, but you're a little too late. This stuff has already been ordered, shipped, has arrived in town, and right now I am just dealing with UPS trying to deliver it to me with all this snow. You can see what I ordered on page 1 or click my sig (easier).
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January 13, 2011 5:13:30 PM

Wow, your build is extremely similar to mine! I just put it together last night.
CPU: 2600K
GPU: 580SC (adding a second with my tax return)
RAM: Ripjaws DDR3 1600
SSD: OCZ RevoDrive 120GB Model
HDD: 2 1.5TB WD Cavia Blacks
Case: HAF X Nvidia Edition
Heatsink: Corsair H70
MOBO: ASUS P8P67 Deluxe (Thinking up returning it and bumping up to a M4E with my tax return)
Monitor: 2 ASUS 27" 1920x1080

We should compare 3Dmark scores :D 
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January 13, 2011 5:27:47 PM

teh_tourist said:
We should compare 3Dmark scores :D 


Yes, be happy to. I'll need a few days though. You'll probably have the edge with that revodrive. My RAM is slightly higher (2k) but I don't think that will make a difference as I will have to run it at 1333 or so.

I'll be able to see my scores in 3D! :D  (j/k) (you must me outputting 3D to see it in 3D)

Black Ops in 3D though, that is what I am getting to if this thing would ever get here! :sleep: 
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January 13, 2011 5:38:21 PM

overall I'm extremely pleased with the performance so far. I didn't expect to be able to max Crysis & Metro 2033 but it has had no problems with them. Everything about the install went smoothly, and I'm sure yours will too.
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January 13, 2011 5:44:30 PM

teh_tourist said:
overall I'm extremely pleased with the performance so far. I didn't expect to be able to max Crysis & Metro 2033 but it has had no problems with them. Everything about the install went smoothly, and I'm sure yours will too.


Excellent. I am so glad to hear that after reading another thread where he is having problems, building on the Pro version of the P8P67. But it is apparently due to additional things, not the basic components.

So why don't you post up your 3DMark scores, and that way I'll have something to shoot for. :D 
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January 13, 2011 6:05:58 PM

teh_tourist said:
http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs1365.snc4...

That's my Vantage score with everything stock, I ran it with everything left at default. Once I get in my H70 I'll probably repost with OC scores. I ran 3Dmark11 but I don't have a screenshot ATM, I think it was around 6700 though.


Ok, very cool, thanks. Nice scores! Glad those are default/stock scores. I am curious as to what Win 7 64 performance increases I can get after tweaking it up. But I will do mine the same- no tweaks, just a straight up after install bench.
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January 14, 2011 10:07:23 PM

Well wish me luck. After three fricken days of UPS refusal to get 1/2" of snow on their little truck to deliver my system, and after 5000 phone calls to managers, customer service agents and the like- by some crazy act of God they finally called and told me it would be ready for pickup tonight. So now after all THAT I have to drive 40 miles round trip and pick it up. :fou:  :sarcastic:  :o  :cry:  :sweat:  :non:  :pfff:  :pfff:  :pfff: 

3 day UPS service my ass.

:sarcastic: 

But, the good news of course is that:

It's heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere. :wahoo: 
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January 16, 2011 1:34:50 AM

Well, this is the first post on the little beast! :bounce: 

Windows experience scores in Win 7 Pro 64:

7.7
7.9
7.9
7.9
7.7

3DMark11 ver 1.0.1.0:

6120

Shouldn't that be higher for a 580 SC, i7 2600K and 8 GB Ripjaws 2K, or is that about right?

This is all at default, with Win7P64 fully updated, and Device Manager squeaky clean. TPU switch enabled.

That revodrive you have be rockin!
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January 16, 2011 3:08:07 AM

what settings enabled in 3dmark?
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January 16, 2011 3:22:14 AM

willmalcom said:
what settings enabled in 3dmark?


It's just the Basic edition, so it's the "Performance" setting at 1280 x 720. Wondering if because I am not benching at my display's native res of 1920 x 1080, that could have an effect. Is the score horrible? I'm not a big benchmarking fan. Or at least, I didn't used to be. :D 
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January 16, 2011 4:30:04 AM

run MSI kombustor @ native with no aa or anything and tell me what u get ... but it seems to be a/b right
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January 16, 2011 5:05:24 AM

willmalcom said:
run MSI kombustor @ native with no aa or anything and tell me what u get ... but it seems to be a/b right


Kombuster Ver 1.0.2:
SCORE: 12666 points - Time: 60000 ms
Max GPU Temp: 64°C
Resolution: 1920x1080 (FS) - MSAA: 0X
FPS: min=207 max=285 avg=211
Codepath: OpenGL 2

SCORE: 12650 points - Time: 60000 ms
Max GPU Temp: 62°C
Resolution: 1920x1080 (FS) - MSAA: 0X
FPS: min=206 max=333 avg=211
Codepath: OpenGL 3

Is that acceptable?
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