$1000Canadian budget all in pls help

[MAJIMI]

hi community,

i apologize if i made another post, there are some budget cuts and now i have to build a gaming pc mostly for WOW and light multimedia (movies) with this budget

newegg.ca

$25.99 mouse&keyboardixxo KB-9AA1 Black USB Wired Standard Keyboard + Optical Mouse Combo
$20.99 dvd burner: Sony Optiarc CD/DVD Burner Black SATA Model AD-7261S-0B LightScribe Support - OEM
monitor: 22-24"
$214 cpu: Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760

for the others parts still nothing in specific


tnx in advance

 

[Proximon]

If you say $1000 cdn in the title it's a lot clearer for us When you say $1000 CAD we think you are building a rig to run Computer Automated Drafting (CAD).

Are those parts you have or parts you are adding to the build?

 

[MAJIMI]

tnx for that info.
nope i have none of the items the I7 is just what i have my eyes on, the rest are the cheap ones that I found
but i am still open for suggestion

 

[Proximon]

So you want a $1000 cdn complete build, including monitor KB, mouse, that will run WoW.

I think you are better off with an AMD build here. i5-760 is possible, but you would have to compromise too much on the motherboard.


Looks like Best Direct has the prices today.

AMD X4 955 $148
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223993/HDZ955FBGMBOX/AMD/

Gigabyte 870 MB USB 3, SATA 6GB/s $102
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/228691/GA-870A-UD3/Gigabyte/

G.skill 1333 CL7 4GB Great price! $82
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/219727/F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH/G.SKILL/

CM 912 case $57
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/230752/RC-912-KKN1/COOLERMASTER/

OCZ ModXstream Pro 600W $73
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/182529/OCZ600MXSP/OCZ%20Technology/

GTX 460 1GB $228
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/229919/GV-N460OC-1GI/Gigabyte/

WD Caviar Black 500GB $58
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/190109/WD5001AALS/Western%20Digital/

DVD burner $18
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222067/IHAS124-04/Liteon/

Asus 22" LCD $172
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/226319/VW224U/ASUS/

Win 7 64-bit $94
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222137/GFC-00599/MICROSOFT/

That's a bit over. $1032 before shipping and rebates.

If you must cut somewhere probably have to drop down to a 5770:
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222020/HD577AZNFC/XFX/

 

[davcon]

AMD Phenom II X4 955 -$147.92
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223993/AMD/HDZ955FBGMBOX/

Gigabyte 880GMA-UD2H -$99.50
http://www.swiftgamers.com/ProductDetails.asp?ProductCode=GA-880GMA-UD2H

GIGABYTE GA-880GA-UD3H -$111.80
http://www.onhop.ca/product/10915222/GIGABYTE+MB+GA-880GA-UD3H+AMD+AM3+880G+SB850+PCIE2+DDR3+USB3+ATX+RETAIL?f=Shopbot

Lancool PC-K58B ATX - $49.99
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=47120&vpn=PC%2DK58B&manufacture=LIAN%2DLI&promoid=1033

Ram- pricematch above ram at ncix

Antec Earthwatts 650W -$69.99/ $49.99 after mir
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=30037&promoid=1033

Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB -$59.79
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/214535/Seagate/ST31000528AS/

Samsung SH-S223C 22X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM -$16.99
http://www.ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=46792&vpn=SH-S223C%2FBEBE-OEM&manufacture=Samsung&promoid=1033

ASUS Radeon HD 5770 Cu Core 1Gb -$151.29/$131.29 after mir
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/226411/ASUS/EAH5770_CUCORE_2DI_1GD5_A/

ya snooze ya lose i don't know your situation but i would order at least the case and psu from NCIX if shipping is only $5.99.
$5.99 GROUND SHIPPING* for orders over $50 and up to 100lbs!
Not available for some rural & northern regions. Canada only. Some areas limited to 15lbs.

btw DirectCanada is owned by Ncix so you can always take advantage of their cheaper prices by pricematching anytime

 

[MAJIMI]

tnx proximon and davcon, i will post my new build based on your input within the week. i hope to get some more input especially with the compatibility. tnx again

 

[MAJIMI]

i have made some choices ; please advice of some incompatibilities.


147.92 CPU AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223993/HDZ955FBGMBOX/AMD/

111.91
MOBO Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H AMD880G ATX AM3 DDR3 3PCIE 2-WAY CrossFireX GBLAN SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/228695/GA%2D880GA%2DUD3H/Gigabyte/

82.03
RAM G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-21 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/219727/F3%2D10666CL7D%2D4GBRH/G.SKILL/

24.12
COOLER Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA775 LGA1156 120MM
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR%2DB10%2D212P%2DGP/COOLERMASTER/

89.99
CASE COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196 FREE SHIPPING

82.76
PSU OCZ ModXStream Pro 700W ATX 20/24PIN SLI Ready Modular Cables 135mm Fan 80PLUS Power Supply
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/206766/OCZ700MXSP/OCZ%20Technology/

86.5
HD Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S 7200RPM 64MB Cache 3.5IN Dual Proc Hard Drive OEM
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/227170/WD1002FAEX/Western%20Digital/


trying to choose between the two gpu's

GPU 149.79
XFX Radeon HD 5770 850MHZ 1GB 4.8GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI Display Port DIRECTX11 PCI-E2.0 Video Card
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222020/HD577AZNFC/XFX/
140.85
Gigabyte Radeon HD 5770 OC 900MHZ 1Gb 4.8GHZ GDDR5 2XDVI HDMI Display Port DX11 PCI-E Video Card
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/229577/GV%2DR577SO%2D1GD/Gigabyte/

17.69
DVD Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222067/IHAS124%2D04/Liteon/

151.2
MONITOR ASUS VW224U 22IN Widescreen LCD Monitor Black 1680X1050 16:10 2MS 5000:1 VGA DVI HDCP
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/226319/VW224U/ASUS/

i am trying to fit in the shipping in the budget as well. as for the OS(Win7), i already bought it

any suggestions or comments for compatibilities or even dependability issues??


tnx in advance

oh and btw its probably gonna be running WOW and SC2

 

[Proximon]

I think it's a good choice, good balance.

I would probably go with the Gigabyte card for the better cooling.

 

[mosox]

That motherboard isn't crossfire, the second PCIe slot works at x16x4. That also makes your PSU overkill.

Cheaper good HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

Cheaper PSU - good for a single video card
OCZ FATAL1TY 550W
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/214351/OCZ550FTY/OCZ%20Technology/

Video card - ASUS EAH5850
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814121375

Much better full HD monitor - ASUS VH242H
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/214283/VH242H/ASUS/

If that's too much skip the HSF, use the stock CPU one.

 

[davcon]

HDD-Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB -$59.79
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/214535/Seagate/ST31000528AS/
Short of buying a ssd there is no significant difference between mechanical hds.

PSU-XFX 650W XXX Edition Single Rail Modular -$94.99/$64.99 after mir
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=55601&vpn=P1650XCAH9&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1207

OCZ FATAL1TY 550W -$49.99 /$29.99 after mir
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=37047&vpn=OCZ550FTY&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1207

For a little more money you could step up to an i5 760 and xfire board and use all the other components.better performance imo.

NCIX Gaming Bundle Deal Intel Core i5 760 Quad Core & MSI P55A-G55 CrossFire DDR3 USB3 Motherboard -$319.99 /$304.99 after mir
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54941&vpn=i5%20760%20%2B%20MSI%20P55A%2DG55&manufacture=Bundle%20Deals&promoid=1207

** FREE Modern Warfare 2 *** XFX Radeon HD 5850 -$244.99 /$224.99 after mir
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54265&vpn=HD585XZAFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1207

 

[MAJIMI]

@proximon i'll take you up on the gigabyte, i just need to clarify what mosox is saying

@mosox, i'm sorry but you lost me at the motherboard . . . if I understood it, your saying that i cant use 2x crossfire card, but only for a single crossfire card?
or its not compatible at all with a crossfire card? if so what would you suggest for a motherboard?

i was going for safe with the psu in case that i would need another video card or even other hardware components like another HD or SSD in the future


@davconn & mosox - your saying that a 5850 is a much better choice rather that a 5770? please enlighten me a little.

@davcon - i think an i5 would give me better performance, but i'm not really sure with the msi motherboard if its realible enough i have to read up on it, i might try to push to an I5 instead but still within the 1k budget

so its spinpoint vs barracuda vs caviar black , from your experience which is more reliable; ofcourse with good performance.

tnx guys, just a little more and i'm done with the selection

 

[mosox]

That mobo isn't good for crossfire. But since I selected in there a much more powerful video card you don't need CF anymore so you can use it. That 550 W PSU is more than enough for a single card setup.

 

[davcon]

The Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H doesn't have xfire but what we're saying is it would be more then adequate if you chose a good single gpu.

The 5850 is a good buy considering the price drop.It cost over $300 until recently.
Two 5770 in xfire equal the performance of one 5850.

Msi is a very reliable brand right behind Asus and Gigabyte quality wise.
Features a 3yr warranty on the mobo.

For $60 the Seagate hd is fine and on par with a Caviar Black and F3.
I don't think the new Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB SATA3 6GB/S offers any advantage over the others.
I've read quite a few posts about buyers dissappointed with its performance.
Unfounded since they were expecting some huge improvement where there isn't one.
Sata 2 offers more then enough throughput for a mechanical drive.

 

[MAJIMI]

thanks for answering all my quiries, i think i'm almost done,
just need to confirm the compatibility for the components

CPU AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Quad Core Processor 3.2GHZ AM3 8MB Cache 125W Retail Box
147.92 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/223993/HDZ955FBGMBOX/AMD/

MOBO Gigabyte GA-880GA-UD3H AMD880G ATX AM3 DDR3 3PCIE 2-WAY CrossFireX GBLAN SATA3 USB3.0 Motherboard
111.91 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/228695/GA%2D880GA%2DUD3H/Gigabyte/

RAM G.SKILL F3-10666CL7D-4GBRH Ripjaws PC3-10666 4GB 2X2GB DDR3-1333 CL7-7-7-21 Core i5 1.5V Memory Kit
82.03 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/219727/F3%2D10666CL7D%2D4GBRH/G.SKILL/

COOLER Coolermaster Hyper 212 Plus Direct Touch 4 Heatpipe Heatsink AM2 AM3 LGA1366 LGA775 LGA1156 120MM
24.12 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/218427/RR%2DB10%2D212P%2DGP/COOLERMASTER/

CASE COOLER MASTER Storm Scout SGC-2000-KKN1-GP Black Computer Case With Side Panel Window
89.99 http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119196

PSU OCZ FATAL1TY 550W
49.99 http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=37047&vpn=OCZ550FTY&manufacture=OCZ%20Technology&promoid=1207

HD Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 1TB SATA2 3.5IN 8.5MS 7200RPM 32MB Hard Drive OEM *3YR MFR Warranty*
59.79 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/214535/Seagate/ST31000528AS/

GPU XFX Radeon HD 5850
244.99 http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=54265&vpn=HD585XZAFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1207

DVD Liteon IHAS124 24X DVD Writer SATA Black OEM
17.69 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/222067/IHAS124%2D04/Liteon/

MONITOR ASUS VH242H
189.79 http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/214283/VH242H/ASUS/


(Is this a good quality)
9.99 PASTE Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM


and anymore suggestions or comments?
tnx alot

 

[Proximon]

AS 5 has good performance, but it lacks in some other areas.

1. It has a cure time that is very long, 100s of hours to reach max efficiency.

2. It doesn't last as long as others.

3. It's a bit conductive and so could cause damage to parts if applied wrong.

Don't get me wrong, I have used it myself and it's long been a favorite. Tests show that a good ceramique type paste will work just as well without the drawbacks though.

I think the MX-4:
review http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/986/pg1/arctic-mx-4-thermal-paste-review-introduction.html

http://ncix.com/products/?sku=55958&vpn=MX-4T-4G&manufacture=Arctic%20Cooling

Only get if you really need it though. The CM Hyper comes with a little bit of ceramique paste... I think it might be TX-2, which is good enough.

 

[davcon]

The CM 212+ comes with a quality CM paste.I used the supplied paste for my 212+ install and it's fine.
While not the best paste on the market it's above average.
Plus if you really wanted too you could get AS5 much cheaper.
http://www.bestdirect.ca/products/166491/AS5-3.5/ARCTIC%20SILVER/
It will probably yield a 2 C temp difference max.
Plus what Proximon posted about AS5 is correct info.

 

[MAJIMI]

if thats the case then, i could probably buy the thermal compound at a later time and just use what s with the 212, especially if its a bit conductive. i can put that money for the shipping instead.
And for the other parts, are there any known incompatibilities? otherwise Im good to go.

 

[Proximon]

I think you are set.

 

[MAJIMI]

Best answer selected by MAJIMI.

 

[MAJIMI]

alright, thank you very much for all your help.
tnx proximon, davcon and mosox.
too bad i can only select one best answer, all your answers helped me alot in making my final choices.