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Hello, im hoping someone can tell me if this build is ok. Im very new to this world, and this will be the first pc i have built, so excuse me if there are any obvious flaws.

Phenom x6 1090t
asus M498TD EVO AM3
4gb corsair DDR3 memory
1tb Hard drive
1 GTX 460 with another at later date for sli
60gb SSD
Antec 900 2

Would appreciate any advise.

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Very little current software uses six cores. And software coming out now also does not use it. Software projects that are starting now are writing it for n-core. So if you want a life of 3 to 5 years for this system, I think that you will get a boost at the end of life for your system that will help it get to five years and maybe more. If you are going to build a new system in two years and sell this one, you will not get much use from the hex-core processor.

I built my system two years ago and I got the Antec 900 case. It's a good case, but if I had it to do over, I would go with the 902. I think this is a good choice.

You didn't say what Power Supply you are looking at. This is an important part of the build.

Also you say "1TB Hard Drive" . Which hard trives are you lookng at? I have a WD Black. I can't really rate this drive as you have to have hundreds of them to really rate it, but mine works, seems to be fast, is not noisy, and does not run hot.

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Ok thanks for advice. I have been reading that the hexacore is not much use now, and like you said i was hoping it might come in handy couple of years down the line when programmes are using more cores, also i will be doing some video editing so thought it might help there. Do you think i might be better off getting x4 955 for 100£ cheaper, then dropping in a hexacore when prices drop, and when it is needed. Also power supply i dont really know as i dont know what to look for. This is one i was considering. Corasir vx550 w. I think it was about 650 watt. Also what did you think about the 460 sli on a amd board, is that a viable option. I chose to go with nvidia so i have the option of playing 3d games if i decide to get a 120hz monitor.

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Sorry, forgot to mention, Hard drive is a 2TB Western Digital 64MB Cache 7200rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s internal Green Desktop Hard Drive. So not 1TB.

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Prescott_666 wrote :

Very little current software uses six cores. And software coming out now also does not use it. Software projects that are starting now are writing it for n-core. So if you want a life of 3 to 5 years for this system, I think that you will get a boost at the end of life for your system that will help it get to five years and maybe more. If you are going to build a new system in two years and sell this one, you will not get much use from the hex-core processor.

I built my system two years ago and I got the Antec 900 case. It's a good case, but if I had it to do over, I would go with the 902. I think this is a good choice.

You didn't say what Power Supply you are looking at. This is an important part of the build.

Also you say "1TB Hard Drive" . Which hard trives are you lookng at? I have a WD Black. I can't really rate this drive as you have to have hundreds of them to really rate it, but mine works, seems to be fast, is not noisy, and does not run hot.




Ok thanks for advice. I have been reading that the hexacore is not much use now, and like you said i was hoping it might come in handy couple of years down the line when programmes are using more cores, also i will be doing some video editing so thought it might help there. Do you think i might be better off getting x4 955 for 100£ cheaper, then dropping in a hexacore when prices drop, and when it is needed. Also power supply i dont really know as i dont know what to look for. This is one i was considering. Corasir vx550 w. I think it was about 650 watt. Also what did you think about the 460 sli on a amd board, is that a viable option. I chose to go with nvidia so i have the option of playing 3d games if i decide to get a 120hz monitor.


Sorry, forgot to mention, Hard drive is a 2TB Western Digital 64MB Cache 7200rpm SATA 3.0Gb/s internal Green Desktop Hard Drive. So not 1TB.

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changed out cpu and the rest is fine.

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What cpu should i change to?

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instead of the x6 (hexacore), stay with the Phenom II x4 (quad core).
just my opinion unless you want to change to the Intel platform i7.
can you wait until Sandybridge or Bulldozer comes out.?

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I am very confused, whether to go to intel or not. I just found out that the mother board i listed is not usb3. Not sure how much this matters. It seems it would be much easier to go with intel if i want to run sli. As for Sandybridge or Bulldozer, i dont fully understand what they are, or when they will be out. May sound dumb but im very new to this game.

Reply to dan2222

i feel your pain...

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Reply to malmental

intel is better for sli - yes (my opinion in my own testing and research threw the years)
amd is better for crossfire - my opinion

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The only reason i wanted a nvidia card, was so i could chose to play and watch 3d stuff if i got a 120hz monitor. The only reason for amd was that people said overall it was cheaper than intel with only slightly less performance. My head hurts, every time i think im getting somewhere there is something else to consider.

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All i really want is a pc that i can play a few games on (just better than xbox), use as a media center for movies, and do a tiny bit of hd video editing. Right now i have a slim line dell c521, and a xbox. Am i making a big deal of nothing? and would any decent pc be able to cater for my needs.

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what are the specs on the c521.?
not being funny, I'm a dell guy you could possibly spend 'some' money and upgrade the dell now
that might hold you off and you can save for your new build..


Message edited by malmental on 10-13-2010 at 04:40:23 PM
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It is an athlon x2 3800+ with 2.5 gb ddr2 memory. Its running vista home premium. 160gb hd. and on board geforce 6500. It was fairly cheap when i got it 5 years ago. It can only hold half height graphics cards aswell.

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i know it well.
geforce 6150 not 6500 but anyways if you wanna max this out some and then wait, might be a good idea like I said.
spend a little now and save for new.
big question though, is the power supply the 285 watt or the 300watt.?
i'm thinking the 285watt, please verify.

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Yes 6150 thats right my mistake. As for power supply im not sure when can i find out. Do i have to take case apart.

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Just looked inside, it says dc out 280. Does that sound right.

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yes, about right.
you still have a few options, do you eBay at all, newegg too.?

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Ebay no probs, is newegg American.

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www.newegg.com
www.tigerdirect.com

 

check this thread out:
http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/ [...] -dell-c521


Message edited by malmental on 10-13-2010 at 09:59:21 PM
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Nice one, im just having a look, seems like they go for around 50£ Im gonna give this system to my girlfriend. So it may be worth doing to give her a little more life. As for my build it is going to be hard to wait. I have never built a system and am dying to get going. Unfortunately for me i want a amd with sli trust me to finally decide on a conflicting build. But thanks for heads up on c521 life stretcher.

Reply to dan2222

back to that huh.? lol
amd with crossfire or intel with nVidia / amd with nVidia.
hope it works.

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I seem to be able to find the brisbane on many USA sites but is discontinued in alot of UK stores. ANNOYING. Anyway thanks for advice.

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amazon UK

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Reply to malmental
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Cool let me look.

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Yes 49£ Thankyou, and you think this will give new lease of life. Should i go to 4gb ram, will this make a difference in overall performance.

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Wow! crazy, i got people in 2010 saying this processor is good and they can edit hd video. People in 2009 saying they can just about play crysis. Can this be true.

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yes it's true.
and get the RAM..

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Ok i believe i was about to spend 1000£ on something i dont really need lol. I owe you one bro or two lol. Maybe i upgrade this one, give to the missus, then build my own modest little baby. Also did you say the 9600gt low profile was good. will i be able to play games at medium settings with this. Is there any other low cards i should look for 4. And am i to believe i could make this c521 play better than an xbox, or am i getting carried away.

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I'm glad I caught you in time b4 you bought a new rig when this one is still able for improvements.
9600GT can play your games, you're good. stay with nVidia on this one, the chipset for the c521 is nVidia.
it's possible to game bro, try it first.
as you see i also posted step by step instructions if you need them for the cpu upgrade.
hit me back anytime for assistance.
in-case you haven't noticed, I use to be a Dell guy and know them 'slightly' more then other units. lol


Message edited by malmental on 10-13-2010 at 11:37:35 PM
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P.S.
make the move to Windows 7..!
you can only go 4GB with the c521 (or so they say, I haven't tried to go more yet);
with only 4GB you could stay with a 32-bit OS and not the 64-bit.
after install of hardware and especially the video card you will only have access to 3.25GB or even 3.0GB but don't sweat that.
if the 32-bit is cheaper then get it.

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lucky me to have been educated by you, i am grateful. I believe this will also allow me to have some practice changing things inside the box. I appreciate you saying i can shout you back if i need to cause i bet i will. Much thanks. The guy in a store i spoke to said this was a dead system and nothing could save it. However i spoke to a young guy at another store and he said, just get a good dual core processor and a good card and you will be ok. He never knew what my current computer was, but now i know who was talking sense, and not trying to sell me something.

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Also, will i need extra cooling with this set up. Sorry if stupid question..

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you will not need any aftermarket cooling if you stay with a Brisbane class, you can run some Windsor class cpu's but nevermind all that..
the fastest Brisbane on the same 65watt platform (that's what you have now) is the 5600+ (2.9Ghz) like I stated.
you can use the stock heatsink that's in the rig now.
PLEASE use artic silver 5 or better thermal compound when re-applying cpu and heatsink. i use artic silver 5 and stand by it.
the 5800+ and 6000+ run on 89watt platforms; that's too much for the c521.


Message edited by malmental on 10-14-2010 at 12:52:32 AM
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Thanks, im gonna do all that now. Will let you know when i have parts.

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Sorry, one more question. Should i get 1gb card or is the 512 enough for my system.

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512mb is good enough..

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What about a radeon 4350. I only say radeon as when i got the pc dell said the card to go in was a x1300 pro.

Reply to dan2222

no.
not a good card at all. can't game on that card.!
and running hi-res dual monitors the graphics will distort. been there with that card..
when you got the rig newer technology wasn't out yet so x1300 pro was current.
trust me bro, i know your unit.

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I trust you, just thought i would throw that out there lol. I Will be getting those parts soon. Also i have decided to go the intel route with my other build. I have been informed that if i want a gaming pc that can run quiet when playing movies, intel is the only way. And as you said if i want sli it is also better. But is this true about the noise levels?

Reply to dan2222

i like the choice because of the sli option.
as for noise; it depends on the case, case fans, fans from video card(s) and cpu cooling.
as far as noise coming from the actual cpu,,,,? never looked into that.
but multi-tasking (gaming and movies) requires a strong cpu, quad core or better.
FYI.


Message edited by malmental on 10-14-2010 at 10:04:53 PM
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Yes thats why i wanted the amd hexacore. Although for the amount of video editing i will be doing im not sure its neccesary. I just wanted a pc that can game but also be quiet when playing a dvd. I know you cant have everything, but i dont want a generator in my room. My system was going to be

i7 950
asus rampage III gene
6gb corsair tri 1600
antec 900 two
gigabyte gtx 460 ( heard it was the quietest)
corsair 650 psu atx
2 tb wd green caviar
Not sure about cooler

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The place where i will buy from said they can overclock to 4.2 with a one year warranty. Im not sure if overclocking is something i should be worrying about, or maybe just learn how to do myself.

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don't worry about it yet.
get the rig built up and running then, tinker around with overclocking.
look for tom's guide on overclocking, you motherboard manual and web site.

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Will this rig play good quality on my 50 inch samsung 720p. I dont want to spend all that money only to realise my xbox is better.

Reply to dan2222

depends on video card..
what rig, the i7.? or the c521.?
still depends on video.

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Oh the i7 sorry mate.

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Basically would the gtx 460 on that rig play better than xbox on my tv. I am aware that xbox is years behind in graphics but all components and software work well together.

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