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August 27, 2010 12:55:34 PM

I know, it seems like a ridiculous and obvious question, but I think there is a very legit toss up when we compare these two models:

ASUS EN9600GSO
512MB GDDR3, 96 stream processors, 550MHz / 1375MHz / 1400MHz, 128-bit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814121320
vs
EVGA 512-P3-N987-TR
512MB GDDR3, 112 stream processors, 550MHz / 1375MHz / 1800MHz, 256-bit.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-535-_-Product

The 9600 looks solid and has awesome reviews. The 9800 looks cheap as hell and doesn't get the greatest reviews. The stream processors and clock speeds are very similar. The biggest difference seems to be in the 256-bit vs 128-bit.

The 9800 is $80 with a $30 mail in rebate, totaling $50. The 9600 can be had for $55 flat and shipped. Which would you choose? I'm leaning toward the 9600 because rebates are a pain, and this is for a budget gaming system, mostly for Counter-Strike Source, but I want it to be able to handle other games on at least medium.

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a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 1:10:13 PM

The 9800GT is GDDR3 memory on a 256-bit bus.
The 9600GSO is GDDR2 memory on a 192-bit bus.

9800GT has better memory on a higher bus, therefore better than the 9600GSO. The 9800GT will be a better bet. Though it's an old card, yet it's able to perform brilliantly on most games even today. It's no doubt a strong card, minus the age. Its better to go for newer architecture when compared. But since your query is limited to those two cards, the 9800GT wins hands down!

If you ARE looking at other options, do tell...
August 27, 2010 1:33:34 PM

Thanks!! Quick reply, very informative., but you say the GSO has DDR2? Why does that particular 9600GSO say GDDR3?

What about this PNY VCG961024GXEB GeForce 9600 GT 1GB 256-bit DDR3?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
It has the 256-bit, DDR3, 650 MHz / 1625 MHz / 1800 MHz. Other than the 64 stream processors, these specs sound better than the 9600GSO and 9800GT!?
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a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 1:58:12 PM

No, no, no. The 9800GT has almost twice as many shaders compared to the 9600GT, these are crucial when it comes to image processing, and therefore, very important. 9600GT has higher clocks only to neutralize difference caused by the low shader count.

Anyway, on topic:

9800GT>9600GSO/9600GT

So, get the 9800GT. (you also might think 'bout getting the HD 5670, almost equal to a 9800GT, but uses lot less power and dispatches lot less heat, plus has DX11 capabilities)

edit- oh i didn't saw 9800GT's price. HD 5670 is 90$ at least, and you can get the 9800GT for 50 bucks???
Go and grab the 9800GT then.
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 1:58:26 PM

That PSY has been deactivated. Anyway, the 9800GT has almost twice the number of stream processors

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

The one you linked seems to be one-of-the-kind type cards which were there for the while. Doubt there are more of 'em now.

The 9800GT would be the best bet, unless you're willing to condiser options outside the box. :) 
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 2:01:46 PM

unknown_13 said:
No, no, no. The 9800GT has almost twice as many shaders compared to the 9600GT, these are crucial when it comes to image processing, and therefore, very important. 9600GT has higher clocks only to neutralize difference caused by the low shader count.

Anyway, on topic:

9800GT>9600GSO/9600GT

So, get the 9800GT. (you also might think 'bout getting the HD 5670, almost equal to a 9800GT, but uses lot less power and dispatches lot less heat, plus has DX11 capabilities)



Hmm...don't get me wrong, but DX11 isn't really that much worth it as of now. When turned on, it really kills the performance in most cases.

Apart from that, yes....he may want to consider the HD series. but 'not' solely because of DX11.
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 2:03:00 PM

namelessonez said:
Hmm...don't get me wrong, but DX11 isn't really that much worth it as of now. When turned on, it really kills the performance in most cases.

Apart from that, yes....he may want to consider the HD series. but solely because of DX11.


I have edited the post:D :D 
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 2:12:38 PM

unknown_13 said:
I have edited the post:D :D 



So have I! :p 
August 27, 2010 2:14:40 PM

No these three products I found available at different websites, so $55 for 6600's, and $80 - 30mir = $50 for 9800gt

Where do I find the "shaders" spec, unkown_13? Or are you meaning twice as many stream processors? (sorry i don't know much technical). As far as shader clock, the 9600gt seems to have a the highest clock of all three. And nameless, you said the 9600GSO is GDDR2 memory on a 192-bit bus, but the specs say GDDR3 on 128-bit?

Which 9600 would we say is closer to the 9800? The GSO because of much closer stream processors, or the GT because of identical memory interface 256-bit, higher clocks and more memory.

Unfortunately we are limited in choice because this i already have the sli-ready mobo, and a tight budget of around $50 :/ 
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 2:16:51 PM

namelessonez said:
So have I! :p 


But obviosuly you were writing your post while i edited mine! :lol:  :lol: 
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 2:23:34 PM

yamahaalex37 said:
No these three products I found available at different websites, so $55 for 6600's, and $80 - 30mir = $50 for 9800gt

Where do I find the "shaders" spec, unkown_13? Or are you meaning twice as many stream processors? (sorry i don't know much technical). As far as shader clock, the 9600gt seems to have a the highest clock of all three. And nameless, you said the 9600GSO is GDDR2 memory on a 192-bit bus, but the specs say GDDR3 on 128-bit?

Which 9600 would we say is closer to the 9800? The GSO because of much closer stream processors, or the GT because of identical memory interface 256-bit, higher clocks and more memory.

Unfortunately we are limited in choice because this i already have the sli-ready mobo, and a tight budget of around $50 :/ 


shaders=stream processors=CUDA cores

At higher resolutions the 9600GT would be closer to the 9800GT because of the 256-bit bus. At lower res, the 9600GSO will be equal to the 9600GT. 9600GSO is slower 'cause of the 192bit bus and GDDR2 mem. (GDDR2 is slowing the card alot). If it would have had GDDR3, it would have been better than the 9600GT. Though 9600GT has higher clocks i think......... +/- the cards are somewhat equal, both are slower than the 9800GT.

And no, the 9600GSO doesn't have 128-bit bus.
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 2:42:51 PM

yamahaalex37 said:
I'm sorry I should have been more specific, please compare this model, look it says GDDR3 on the box:

http://i56.photobucket.com/albums/g168/YamahaAlex37/9600gso.jpg?t=1282919490

And on newegg, the other one says 196bit, but this one says 128:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


Oh why didn't you told that this was the 512MB version?? Or i haven't read well before :lol: 

Anyway, yes then it's true that it has a 128-bit bus. Well, this version is probably equal to the 9600GT, maybe a little slower

But you said you will have 30$ rebate on the 9800GT, can't you get that card???
August 27, 2010 3:06:19 PM

The only problem is I'm building my brothers computer and im going to tell him to buy his own gpu and put a 6600 in there in the mean time. The 9800gt deal ends in a few days, and I have a feeling he won't have the money in time. I am deffinenlty going to push for the 9800 because of the great information i've recieved, but just in case we miss the deal and the next closest deal is 80 or 90 bucks for a 9800, he'll probably just wanna go with a $50 9600. (after all he mostly just plays counter strike source). So im just tryin to get all the information I can.

So wouldn't you say these cards are pretty damn close to the 9800? After all, the GSO is almost identical in clocks to the 9800, and the GT has higher than the 9800. The GT keeps the same memory interface (256) yet has half the stream processors. The GSO has almost matching stream processors but half the memory interface (128). So each 9600 fails in a different category. If only the GSO could steal the GT's memory interface, or the GT steal the GSO's stream processors! Then would we have a competitor?
August 27, 2010 3:45:02 PM

hmm maybe you missed this,

yamahaalex37 said:
The only problem is I'm building my brothers computer and im going to tell him to buy his own gpu and put a 6600 in there in the mean time. The 9800gt deal ends in a few days, and I have a feeling he won't have the money in time. I am deffinenlty going to push for the 9800 because of the great information i've recieved, but just in case we miss the deal and the next closest deal is 80 or 90 bucks for a 9800, he'll probably just wanna go with a $50 9600. (after all he mostly just plays counter strike source). So im just tryin to get all the information I can.

i think the reason mid-range gaming products exist is because there may actually be a market for individuals who match the requirements for them, and i guess i might be one of them in this situation. again, this is for a little brother whose budget is going to be around $50 and doesn't have the highest gaming needs, and im just trying to get as much information as i can. and again, im pushing for the 9800gt and if the price is right at the time we will get it.

so, which fault of the 9600 is more detrimental, the lack of stream processors in the GT, or the lack of 256-bit in the GSO?
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 5:05:37 PM

What is his monitor resolution?
August 27, 2010 5:23:37 PM

1280x1024. he talks about wanting a 22" widescreen, but if he ever gets one it wont be a problem turning it down to 1360x768
a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 5:34:14 PM

Well the 9600 (both of 'em) can handle either res pretty easily.... however if he wants to run 1680x1050 (natural res), then the 9800GT is a must have.
August 27, 2010 5:51:48 PM

Good point. I think I'm going to make him a deal, that if he pays me 50, i will take care of the 80 up front and the rebate for him. Thank you all very much for excellent advice.

I am a little curios however as to whats better, more stream processors or 256bit in the 9600's.

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a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 5:59:18 PM
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yamahaalex37 said:
Good point. I think I'm going to make him a deal, that if he pays me 50, i will take care of the 80 up front and the rebate for him. Thank you all very much for excellent advice.

I am a little curios however as to whats better, more stream processors or 256bit in the 9600's.


It's all 'bout the res. If the res is high, then the 9600GT will do a little better 'cause of the 256-bit interface, and the higher GPU/mem/shader clocks will neutralize some amount of performance loss caused from the low shader count. If you're playing at low res, then the 9600GSO will do little better, 'cause of the higher count of shaders.
August 27, 2010 11:17:37 PM

You can choose HD 4850
August 27, 2010 11:36:46 PM

Not for my brother, his budget is $50, but if i decide to take his $50 and add another $50 I can upgrade my 9800gt and give it to him. But I'm not sure any gts250, hd5570, 4850, or anything in the $100 range is going to be much of an upgrade from my card, and it serves me pretty well. So i'd rather not spend the extra $50 and just get him his own card.

Unless there is a card that is really worthy of upgrading my 9800gt... and for cheap!
September 7, 2010 2:04:30 AM

Best answer selected by yamahaalex37.
a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 11:40:10 AM

ty:D 
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