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January 8, 2011 12:15:05 AM

Hi Guys I'm new to this forum and hope to stay in the family in the long run..

I am a former computer technician but I admin that I am not a PC components expert. I just know how to troubleshoot softwares and assemble computers.

I am currently running a Core2Duo 2.20GHZ (2 CPU) E4500, 4 gig memory, 1 gig geforce 9500 GT. I want to overclock this setup but I am not sure where to start.. :( 

I want to build a new system that can multitask bunch of things. I wanted to install 10 different OS on that system using VMware.. Please suggest a good setup specification that can open a lot of applications at the same time without having a lag. My budget is 1500$ for this.. I already decided for the Processor and its i7 I just need some advice on the other components like memory,video card, motherboard, cooler etc.

I am planning to purchase this month. I really need your help experts..

Please advice...

Regards,
Kojak

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January 9, 2011 12:45:22 AM

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January 9, 2011 1:09:07 AM

You definitely will not be able to run 10 VM's at the same time on a $1500 system, I guarantee you. When you say you wan't it to multi-task many things, be specific on what you wan't to it multi-task for you. Once again, you will not be able to run games, photo-editors, video-editors, CAD applications at the same time on a $1500 system, maybe if you add another zero to that price. So provide some information:

-What kind of applications are we looking at.
-How many applications would you like to run at the same time.
-Within the applications, what do you do? (Example: Drawing a line in photoshop VS creating a multi-layer, 3-Dimensional effect and rendering filters will take up a very different amount of resources).
-What are your preferences for brand or any other personal preferences?
-What area of performance is most important for you? (Video? Processing? Space?)
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January 9, 2011 2:41:33 AM

blackhawk1928 said:
You definitely will not be able to run 10 VM's at the same time on a $1500 system, I guarantee you. When you say you wan't it to multi-task many things, be specific on what you wan't to it multi-task for you. Once again, you will not be able to run games, photo-editors, video-editors, CAD applications at the same time on a $1500 system, maybe if you add another zero to that price. So provide some information:

-What kind of applications are we looking at.
-How many applications would you like to run at the same time.
-Within the applications, what do you do? (Example: Drawing a line in photoshop VS creating a multi-layer, 3-Dimensional effect and rendering filters will take up a very different amount of resources).
-What are your preferences for brand or any other personal preferences?
-What area of performance is most important for you? (Video? Processing? Space?)


Hi blackhawk I will run dreamweaver,photoshop,after effects, multiple browsers, adobe illustrator, auto cad and maybe 3 VM's if I cant run 10.

- I want to open all of that applications at the same time without lagging
- I am a web developer/designer. I am using all of that applications at the same time.
- Im not sure what to choose for the brand.. Maybe i7?
- I need this setup for multi tasking and running a few VM's...

Regards
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January 9, 2011 2:43:47 AM

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If you have already selected the processor you can have a look this

ASUS Sabertooth X58 LGA 1366 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0
http://bit.ly/cscHph

G.SKILL 24GB (6 x 4GB) DDR3 1333MHz CAS 91.5v
http://bit.ly/avTTJg

Nvidia Quadro 2000 1GB
http://bit.ly/97uRuv

18″ SATA Cable W/ Metal Latch
http://bit.ly/cGK0Yp

Four Samsung F3 500GB RAID 10: Capacity: 1TB
http://amzn.to/Samsung_500GB

ASUS Black 24X SATA CD/DVD Burner
http://bit.ly/bLit9j

SeaSonic M12II 620W 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Modular
http://bit.ly/bMkxM2

NZXT Phantom PHAN-001BK
http://bit.ly/9H69FS

Zalman CNPS10X Performa CPU
http://amzn.to/9K9YtJ

ARCTIC COOLING MX-4 Thermal Compound


Thanks buddy.. Will check those recommendations.
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January 9, 2011 3:10:55 AM

kojakfull said:
Hi blackhawk I will run dreamweaver,photoshop,after effects, multiple browsers, adobe illustrator, auto cad and maybe 3 VM's if I cant run 10.

- I want to open all of that applications at the same time without lagging
- I am a web developer/designer. I am using all of that applications at the same time.
- Im not sure what to choose for the brand.. Maybe i7?
- I need this setup for multi tasking and running a few VM's...

Regards


Well, for that 1500 budget, what do you need, is that money designated specifically on the hardware or do you need to get an OS, monitor, speakers, keyboard/mouse...etc for that money also. Either way, I think thats impossible to achieve on a $1500 system...those requirements are almost like wanting a $20,000 car to go from 0-60mph in 3.5 seconds...its simply impossible/not going to happen.

You might, keyword might, be able to get close those requirements if and ONLY if that 1500 is only going to be on hardware in which case you'd need an i7 950, the cheapest X58 motherboard, 12GB-16GB of ram at least and whatever is left can be used on a cheap PSU, HDD and Case.
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January 9, 2011 3:24:25 AM

i'm building a $4000 system w/ 12GB of RAM and i don't expect it to run 10VMs... now when i had an i7 860 @ 3.2GHz i could do that kind of multi tasking with the cs5 stuff but couldn't render a 4 layer 18MP image, edit and render a vid in AE, and not lag while using DW.... DW isn't crazy on the tower (at least the way i use it)

my 860 setup was a $1850 in jan. 2010 so it would probably be like $1000 if u built one like that now


10VMs... go get a 128GB kit of RAM and 2 top end xeons... if the xeons could even handle that... might need a small cluster to do 10VMs
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January 9, 2011 6:43:59 AM

MSI was showing off it's dual fermi gpu at CES. A couple of those and a good power suppy should get ya up to the 1500 your shootin for.
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January 9, 2011 5:17:11 PM

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with 4000usd you can easy run 10 vms

i'm donating more to GPUs and only going for 8GBs of RAM.... its kind of like taking your current computer and dividing its total processing power by 10 when running 10
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January 9, 2011 5:26:27 PM

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lol have you seen their mobo The Big Bang Marshall

Ya, I saw that last week. Pretty cool. I guess there will be a triple channel version of Sandybrige with a LGA 2011 socket aimed for the enthusiest market out later this year. I sure am curiouse how that is going to bench against the 980x. I myself am sticking with my qx9650@4ghz(x12)333fsb on water until the "tock" cycle of Ivybridge. It runs my gtx460sli just fine enough to cost-justify the wait.
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January 9, 2011 6:17:52 PM

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lol I'm still running my Xeon 3850 with a Asus Gtx 280. Don't know love that card too much. Got in my weaker system a 460. And a 5870. I won't go rush off for a SB platform wait till the dust has settle and Amd lowered their prices to force Intels hand.

OP. With VM you need lots of ram and processing power. A gpu is not going to help you running 10VM. Ram is going to.


Ya, you're right. Probably a multi socket server board running as many threads as possible might help too.
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January 9, 2011 6:35:40 PM

'Enzo Matrix' (or maybe MU_Engineer) has an Asus KGPE-D16 G34 mobo. Send him a PM and I'm certain he will discuss the +/-'s with you.

Throw in an Opty 61XX and you have a good running start for $900-$1,000. Probably take a good bit of planning on how you could populate those DIMM slots -- much less figuring a future with a second CPU (with another DIMM bank to populate).

And I'll bet a nickle that if (when?) the KGPE supports Valencia they raise the price of the motherboard $100-$200 :lol: 
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January 9, 2011 8:20:59 PM

kojakfull said:
Hi Guys I'm new to this forum and hope to stay in the family in the long run..

I want to build a new system that can multitask bunch of things. I wanted to install 10 different OS on that system using VMware.. Please suggest a good setup specification that can open a lot of applications at the same time without having a lag. My budget is 1500$ for this.. I already decided for the Processor and its i7 I just need some advice on the other components like memory,video card, motherboard, cooler etc.

I am planning to purchase this month. I really need your help experts..

Please advice...

Regards,
Kojak

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If I was mostly concerned with multi tasking on a 1500 budget this would be my approach:

2x cpu's = $300
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=OS8360PULL&c=pw&h...

Mobo = $295
http://www.alinx.ca/asus-dual-skt1207-nf3600-bulk-16xdd...

24gb (ecc) ram = $900
http://www.atacom.com/program/atacom.cgi?KEYWORDS=MEE2_...

You could sacrafice some ram for a video card I guess but this wouldn't be a gaming machine by any means. Unless you were running 7 games at once anyway. Also you should check to see if you can update the mobo bios concerning the cpu model. I don't stand firm on this set up but I would use it as a starting point regarding seriouse multi tasking. I don't think you need a really fast cpu, but just a lot of available resources (ram and cpu cores). Good luck.

You would need an Nvida Quadro or AMD Fire Pro for ACad and rendering I think. They are kind of costly. The wrong video card can make the whole system look like it is running slow.
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January 13, 2011 6:22:12 PM

If you subtracted 12gb of ram from my list on the AMD system I posted you can get the Quadro card that Dadiggle suggested new on e-bay for $420. I've been reading that the Quadro 200 series is faster than the new Fermi Quadros that are coming out. People are haveing problems with the firmy quadros also. You can google the reviews. Here's the ebay link
http://compare.ebay.com/like/230573301926?ltyp=AllFixed...*I8&GUID=8104829312d0a0aad3b1f001fff72c83&itemid=230573301926&ff4=263602_304662
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