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CrossfireX 4870 vs any new card.

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August 27, 2010 7:29:26 PM

Hello, I'm building a new PC from parts of my current PC. I'll build a new one for my girlfriend with the parts I don't need.

Mobo: Gigabyte GA-X58A-UD3R
CPU: Intel Core I7 920 (I would have choose a AMD Phenom II cpu but my friend sells it at a great price)
Corsair H50
Random cheap 6gb DDR3 ram.. kidding: Corsair XMS3 TR3X6G1600C8 6GB DDR3 3X2GB DDR3-1600 CL 8-8-8-24
Cooler Master 650W PSU

I have a XFX Radeon HD 4870 1GB and I think I will buy a second one instead of buying a Nvidia or a newer ATI.. Or should I?
My budget would be 200 CAD (Canadian Dollar).
I would like to know if I should change my PSU by the same occasion?

Thanks you.

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a c 153 U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 7:45:14 PM

If you don't care about DX11, then another 4870 is a great idea.

http://www.tweaktown.com/reviews/1481/sapphire_radeon_h...

You should be fine with your PSU, although if you want to give yours to your girlfriend I would reccomend getting a better brand if you want. Corsari, SeaSonic, XFX, newer OCZs, newer Antecs, PC Power and Cooling.
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a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 8:03:55 PM

A second ATI 4870 would certainly give you great performance for DX9/DX10 titles. So you just have to question whether you want to be an early DX11 adopter. :) 

ATI 4870 $135 @NewEgg.ca
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Unfortunately, the ATI 4870 is fairly spendy these days as it gets faded out of the lineup. All things considered anyhow. You could always pick up a used one for cheaper over eBay or something.
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a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 8:49:40 PM

I say sell your current 4870 on e-bay and get a 5850/460. The problem when adding a second last gen GPU to your setup is the fact that once it's time to upgrade those you will loose most of your investment. In a year or two from now the 4870 will be obsolete and the cost of those cards will be significantly lower. Of course this is my point of view, if you do not care for DX11 + low power draw + low heat then a second 4870 should suit you fine.
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a b U Graphics card
August 27, 2010 10:48:25 PM

Only issue with having him go ATI 5850 is this:

MSI Twin Frozr II 5850 $299.99 CAD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

That's the cheapest thing on the Egg right now. And it's $100CAD over his budget. Which means he needs to sell his 4870 for at least $100CAD (which is probably slim chance).

At that point, the GTX 470 is not much more:

Zotac GTX 470 (Reference) $311CAD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Pricing issue aside, I agree with you OvrClkr. :) 

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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 12:29:44 AM

jerreece said:
Only issue with having him go ATI 5850 is this:

MSI Twin Frozr II 5850 $299.99 CAD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

That's the cheapest thing on the Egg right now. And it's $100CAD over his budget. Which means he needs to sell his 4870 for at least $100CAD (which is probably slim chance).

At that point, the GTX 470 is not much more:

Zotac GTX 470 (Reference) $311CAD
http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E1681...

Pricing issue aside, I agree with you OvrClkr. :) 


Even if he gets 275.00$ it wouldn't hurt to save up 25$ more, IDK I guess that's what I would do if I were in his shoes. Personally if he is going green I would not recommend the 470 "too hot dude :fou:  !!" rather get a GTX 460 and SLI later on if needed

heat issues aside I agree with you :lol: 

on a side note the 450 is around the corner, if the OP can wait he might get a nice surprise, who knows but dual 450's sounds rather interesting :) 

http://videocardz.com/26887/geforce-gts-450-final-speci...

too many options :pt1cable: 
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 3:53:34 AM

Interesting. GTS 450 by mid September that link claims. I suppose two 450's in SLI would give pretty darn good performance (maybe 470 ish). While the two GTX 460's right now beat out a GTX 480 hands down.

To be honest, I'm a more hardcore gamer. I don't play for hours and hours on end. But I want 1080p, and I want 60+ FPS, and I want max settings. Which is why I got the 470. Otherwise I'd have to go with SLI 450 or 460, cause one card wouldn't be enough otherwise.

Although I can't wait to see what actually happens with ATI this fall/winter.
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 4:24:06 AM

jerreece said:
Interesting. GTS 450 by mid September that link claims. I suppose two 450's in SLI would give pretty darn good performance (maybe 470 ish). While the two GTX 460's right now beat out a GTX 480 hands down.

To be honest, I'm a more hardcore gamer. I don't play for hours and hours on end. But I want 1080p, and I want 60+ FPS, and I want max settings. Which is why I got the 470. Otherwise I'd have to go with SLI 450 or 460, cause one card wouldn't be enough otherwise.

Although I can't wait to see what actually happens with ATI this fall/winter.


If the OP can take the extra 20c at load then I say 470 as well, I also opted for something more powerfull but my ambient in summer is way to high, even at 76F my room temp would jump to 80F in less than 20 min of BC2 with a single 470 at stock clocks. The only way i was able to control the ambient is if i had the A/C running on high 24/7 @ 69/70F which in turn jacked up my electric bill from 90.00$ to 340.00$ in a 30 day period :fou:  Not cool at all..This 5850 stays at a constant 61/62c @ 950/1250 in games w/ vsnc enabled and to be honest it still warms up the room. Can't wait till December, temps here drastically go from 105F in summer to 20F in Winter.

As far as SI goes, I don't think it will be a major change as the 4 series was to the 5 series. Might get more punch in the tessellation dept but who knows. Rumors indicate that AMD has something to counter the 460, I guess we will have to wait n see.

Here is the latest :
http://www.engadget.com/2010/08/27/ati-leaks-out-southe...

http://www.electronista.com/articles/10/08/27/amd.south...
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 6:25:12 AM

I've always advocated for a single more powerful GPU as opposed to multiple GPU configs.. The situation here is a little quirky btw.. For a two GPU config, crossfire does not scales as well as SLI.. How about OP sells his current card, gets a Nvidia GTX 460 768 MB and use the rest of the money to get a better PSU..
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 6:38:16 AM

His PSU is fine, actually his PSU can handle dual 460's if he wanted to. An i7 overclocked to 3.8Ghz + GTX 460 SLI pulls less than 500w.
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August 28, 2010 8:58:49 AM

it looks like, surprisingly, 4870s are reaching in the mid to high $90's (USD) range on ebay. (compared to the GTX+ 9800-which came out in the same month, for $100 more, no less-and seems to be had on ebay for under $100 easily.) If you can rely on a brand new video card keeping the same value as the 4870 (and the 4xxx series in general) in 2 years, then selling a card and putting that to a new card is at best a little better than getting getting one GPU and a 2nd later.

In most cases, when a card's value isn't held onto nearly as well, you probably are better off planning for sli/crossfire (assuming you bought a psu that can handle it when the time comes), but in your case, I think you will very much benefit trying to sell you 4870 and buying a new card (somewhere in the $200-$300 range)...I think you could get a 460 or 5830, and if you really look for sales and are open to the the upper range of your budget, you can get a 5850 or 470 for around $250-$270.

Remember if you sell the the 4870 for around $100 you only be paying $150-$170 for those.

P.S. I apologize for posting all those prices in USD, but it should al works out relatively close.
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August 30, 2010 12:17:05 PM

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