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GTX295 vs. GTX460

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August 27, 2010 10:15:36 PM

Hi,

I've come across a fairly cheap secondhand GTX295 with a year of warranty left. I'm considering buying it for my current rig:

ASUS P5N-EM HDMI mobo
Intel Core 2 Duo E8500 3.16 GHz CPU
4 gb DDR2-ram
Geforce 9600GT 512mb (clearly needs retirement...)
750 watt PSU
Win7 64-bit

Would it make any sense stuffing a GTX295 in it? :-) Is it worth it? I really miss some framerate in for example Mafia II - my current gfx will only run at 39 fps using MII's integrated benchmark, at 1280x720 resolution.

My monitor supports up to 1680x1050, so why not use it? :-)

The alternative is a brand spanking new GTX460, but when looking at benchmarks, the GTX295 kicks it butt GOOD.

What would you guys / "guyettes" recommend me to do?

And sorry for my worn-out english (well, maybe more to-little-practiced) :) 

Troels
Denmark

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a c 172 Î Nvidia
August 27, 2010 10:24:47 PM

The 460 would be my recommendation if it were 384 cores instead of the 336 versions, hold off mate as dual GPU cards are more trouble than they're worth IMHO.
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a b Î Nvidia
August 27, 2010 10:25:08 PM

When you say its a second hand card with a year of warranty left what do you mean exactly ? if its a XFX card and you are referring to the transferable warranty then i have bad news im afraid. That warranty only applies in Northern America last time I looked.
Personally i would want the new card anyway, and you don't really need a 295 at your resolution anyway.

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August 27, 2010 10:25:24 PM

Do you value performance over DirectX 11?
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August 27, 2010 10:33:29 PM

Mousemonkey > How do I ensure to get a 384 version?
Mactronix > It's part of the danish consumer protection law :) 
plznote > Well, never tried DirectX 11, so I can't know what I'm missing ;) 

Thanks for 3 great responses already! :-)
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a c 172 Î Nvidia
August 27, 2010 10:34:58 PM

puttitat said:
Mousemonkey > How do I ensure to get a 384 version?
Mactronix > It's part of the danish consumer protection law :) 
plznote > Well, never tried DirectX 11, so I can't know what I'm missing ;) 

Thanks for 3 great responses already! :-)

Like the rest of us, you wait for them to be released.
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August 27, 2010 10:36:38 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Like the rest of us, you wait for them to be released.


I risk asking like a retard here: What is the big difference? Hardware is exceptionally expensive here in Denmark with a GTX460 1gig priced at just under $400 - a new revision will probably result in a $500 pricetag...
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a c 172 Î Nvidia
August 27, 2010 10:47:44 PM

puttitat said:
I risk asking like a retard here: What is the big difference? Hardware is exceptionally expensive here in Denmark with a GTX460 1gig priced at just under $400 - a new revision will probably result in a $500 pricetag...

Being half Danish I feel for you with regards the pricing, the problem with the GTX460 at the moment (for me at least) is that it's not all it should be and even though the 384 might only be a tiny bit faster than the 336 version at least you be getting all the GPU that you're being charged for.
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August 27, 2010 11:59:54 PM

In That Case Id Go With The GTX460, Its Plenty And Frankly, The Better Deal
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August 28, 2010 7:49:40 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Being half Danish I feel for you with regards the pricing, the problem with the GTX460 at the moment (for me at least) is that it's not all it should be and even though the 384 might only be a tiny bit faster than the 336 version at least you be getting all the GPU that you're being charged for.


Thanks for clarifying :-)

I've seen your avatar at Newz.dk, dunno if that happens to be you? :-)

Besides that: The Gainward GS GTX460 2GB (!) has come to my attention - might that be worth considering?
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August 28, 2010 8:41:59 AM

The 460@1g ram is all the card you will ever need for 1680x1050,I'm running the gtx275 @the same rez works like a charm...:) 
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a c 172 Î Nvidia
August 28, 2010 9:41:41 AM

puttitat said:
Thanks for clarifying :-)

I've seen your avatar at Newz.dk, dunno if that happens to be you? :-)

Besides that: The Gainward GS GTX460 2GB (!) has come to my attention - might that be worth considering?

Nah, that's just a cheap imitation. :lol: 
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August 28, 2010 9:53:02 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Nah, that's just a cheap imitation. :lol: 


Its def. nothing to be proud of - at Newz.dk he's kind of a troll, always nagging at people, always ranting...

Thats why I couldn't imagine you to be that guy, you're waaaaay too helpful for that :sol: 
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a c 172 Î Nvidia
August 28, 2010 9:58:31 AM

puttitat said:
Its def. nothing to be proud of - at Newz.dk he's kind of a troll, always nagging at people, always ranting...

Thats why I couldn't imagine you to be that guy, you're waaaaay too helpful for that :sol: 

Thank you very much. :sol: 
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August 28, 2010 1:57:26 PM

You guys are brainwashed by marketing. He OP should save his money and get the 295. It will spank the 460 at every turn and at higher resolutions and from what he says it will cost much less. There is NOTHING wrong with a dual GPU card with the latest drivers. Unless you have ever owned one let alone two you should not comment on that. If you guys were smart you would totally skip the 400 series and wait until Nvidia works out the bugs on their latest architecture, shrink the die and release the originally planned 512 version instead of all these cut down 480's and 470's and what not. That will be the card to own.
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August 28, 2010 2:08:43 PM

Warezme > Although I disapprove the harsh tone, you make a good point. Both the 295 and the 460 will set me back $400, so the price tag is almost the same.

With that ruled out, I'm beginning to see the point in having DX11 capability - what good is loads of raw power gonna do if you can't unleash it trough "Very high" settings, if they require DX11?
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August 28, 2010 11:31:49 PM

I just went from a GTX 295 (3 1/2 yrs) to a GTX 460 SLI setup. Right now I only have a single samsung 24 " monitor, but in the future I will have 3 of them. The 460 SLI is about a wash as far as what I play (MW2) But in some games I have read it will in fact best the 295 in most. That is the SLI mind you not the single 460. And I sold my 295 for 350.00 so it almost payed for my 460 SLI 1 Gig setup....it was 479 with shipping.
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August 29, 2010 1:09:25 PM

Hi,

I ended out ordering a Gainward GeForce GTX 460 2GB PhysX CUDA.

Thanks for all your help, you guys have been awesome! :-)
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August 29, 2010 1:57:20 PM

puttitat said:
Hi,

I ended out ordering a Gainward GeForce GTX 460 2GB PhysX CUDA.

Thanks for all your help, you guys have been awesome! :-)


Enjoy.
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August 30, 2010 11:07:43 AM

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August 30, 2010 11:08:11 AM

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