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ATI Radeon 6000 seriers rumor to be released in october

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August 28, 2010 8:27:14 AM

http://vr-zone.com/articles/-rumour-ati-radeon-hd-6000-series-release-schedule-first-iteration-in-october/9688.html

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Popular Turkish website Donanimhaber has released an expected schedule for the release of ATI's Radeon HD 6000 series. The first HD 6000 GPU to be released will be the Radeon HD 6700 series, codenamed Barts. The HD 6700 is scheduled for a release as early as October. As suggested by the nomenclature, the HD 6700 will directly replace the HD 5700 series.

The HD 6700 release will be followed up by Cayman in November, expected to be branded as the ATI Radeon HD 6800 series, replacing the current HD 5800 series.

The flagship will be Antilles, and branded as the ATI Radeon HD 6970. Antilles, as expected, will be a dual-GPU Cayman. While the HD 5970 lowers clock speeds from the HD 5870, HD 6970 is expected to feature the same clock speeds as the HD 6870 - basically a HD 6870 in CF. This will be much like the HD 4870 X2. The Radeon HD 6970 is scheduled for December.
a c 169 U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 9:24:42 AM

In one of the news i read in xbitlabs's site, they mentioned that there isn't a huge difference in performance between HD 5xxx and 6xxx series, the main difference is in their power consumption, which the new cards are said to have less power consumption.
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 9:31:40 AM

Yes, I've been following this topic vigourously seeing as im going to be upgrading my graphics card this year, from 9800GT -> 6850? or 5890? although depending on pricing I may choose to buy a 5870? I won't need UVD for a good while nor will I be doing eyefinity so if there isn't alot of upgrades in features to the new series I may stick with the old lot.

Depending on performance, pricing and TDP I could be swayed etheir way, At the moment however I think I'll be going for a MSi hawk/Asus DirectCU/HIS OC? maybe

Can't wait for nov.
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a c 130 U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 9:39:28 AM

I read that the 6700 would need 2 6 pin connectors and would support a new eyefinity called eyefinity 4 which you could probably guess is support for 4 monitors.
Cant see how that would equal better/less power consumption. Of course the article i read could have been mixing up the cards as its not exactly crystal yet is it.

Mactronix
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August 28, 2010 10:23:42 AM

dose any one know if this card is going to be 40nm or the next step down? If they are going to release the card as a lower powered card then could that mean that they are shrinking the die to 30nm or so?

Wish I could have waited before I got the 5870 but my other card the 4850 was starting to die and I wanted DX 11
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a c 130 U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 10:29:47 AM

The way i heard it was that these SI cards are coming out because there was an issue with the 32nm fabrication process and these will be a 40nm stop gap refresh untill the NI cards come out next year.

Mactronix
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August 28, 2010 10:32:28 AM

can't wait to see the benchmarks in october and november
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August 28, 2010 10:51:57 AM

and that's why for the time being i settled for gtx 460 first... wait till the end of the year to see what outcome will be...
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 11:53:05 AM

whats actually is refresh?Do manufractures just crank up the card specification and call it a refresh. said:
whats actually is refresh?Do manufractures just crank up the card specification and call it a refresh.


same architecture, smaller die process or some process improvement, much like the gf104 and the 4890/4770.

not to be confused with the term rebadge by nvidia. where the very same chip gets a brand new sticker on top of it (example: 8800gs -> 9600gso, 9800gtx+ -> gts250) and marketed as new.
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a b U Graphics card
August 28, 2010 12:50:32 PM

wh3resmycar said:
same architecture, smaller die process or some process improvement, much like the gf104 and the 4890/4770.

not to be confused with the term rebadge by nvidia. where the very same chip gets a brand new sticker on top of it (example: 8800gs -> 9600gso, 9800gtx+ -> gts250) and marketed as new.


Haha making fun of nVidia, one of my favorite things, I also like long walks on the beach :lol: 

Can't wait for SI. the anticipation has been killing me since I found out a month or so ago.
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August 28, 2010 7:30:34 PM

someone put up leaked benches a while ago. As many people expected it had about a 25-30% increase in performance across the board, which considering its still 40nm isnt bad. That would put the 6870 above the gtx 480 in performance. Hopefully the tesselation will be improved on the 6xxx series. But until we get 100% legit benches who knows. I'd buy a 6870 or two for xfire if they do have a 30% perf increase over the 5870, to replace my gtx 295. However i am saving for bulldozer and a new mobo, and im not sitting on a bank :/ 
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August 29, 2010 12:03:59 AM

I wish I could have waited but I needed a new card so I got the ATI Radeon 5870. but hey when the 6000 series comes out I can get another 5870 for cheaper and crossfire it.
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a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 4:04:47 AM

I'm hoping for some serious improvements in crossfire scaling. The GTX 4xx series has such good scaling that it makes it hard for me to look elsewhere since I don't upgrade regularly so a dual card setup is likely to happen at some point.

I want to see at least a little more performance, better tessellation, and better crossfire scaling
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August 29, 2010 6:46:11 AM

but there are rumors said that the hd 6000 series will not have a significant improvement in performance compared to hd 5000 series... so i don't understand what's the selling point for hd 6000 series?? also if i go for ati i would only stick with single gpu as their cfirex scaling is poor than sli....
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August 29, 2010 6:51:58 AM

phenom90 said:
but there are rumors said that the hd 6000 series will not have a significant improvement in performance compared to hd 5000 series... so i don't understand what's the selling point for hd 6000 series?? also if i go for ati i would only stick with single gpu as their cfirex scaling is poor than sli....


Depends on what you consider significant. So far it seems like it'll be a good 20-30% across the board, which is definitely important, it's just not the HUGE MAJOR MUST-HAVE like a new gen. often is. And Crossfire scaling is close to SLI, and very good (esp. if you consider where SLI/CF were just a few years ago.)
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August 29, 2010 7:00:27 AM

if 20 - 30 % for me it seems very much... that should make it a good buy...
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a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 8:03:10 AM

I'm looking at a 6850, Comparable to a 5870 at stock I expect, but with a new feature-set, I will then possibly? Overclock, although I don't think it will be necessary
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August 29, 2010 7:47:57 PM

Nvidia are staring down a barrel if this is true.

http://we.pcinlife.com/thread-1500103-1-1.html

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But, can it play Crysis? At Very High, 1920x1200, 4x AA, the HD 6870 comfortably plays along at 43.55 fps. The minimum fps is 29.57. Crysis has been well and truly conquered at HD resolutions with high IQ settings. At these kind of settings, previous single GPU cards barely broke 30 fps average, which means the HD 6870's minimum framerate is the same as the average of HD 5870 / GTX 480.


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a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 7:53:15 PM

Im still waiting a few more days, then we will know
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August 29, 2010 7:57:41 PM

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Im still waiting a few more days, then we will know


Whats happening in a few days?
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a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 7:59:59 PM

Word is, we will know alot more. Leaks are a comin
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a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 8:12:13 PM

If those benches are real, its not a dual card, they arent the first cards out, they always come later
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a b U Graphics card
August 29, 2010 8:15:59 PM

Nice. If these numbers are real, then it's actually great, considering that there will be a lot of performance upgrades through new drivers. I'm still curious about DX11 and tesselation performance.
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August 31, 2010 10:55:31 AM

hd 5850?? then you should wait some more time before grab one as ati will drop its prices on hd 5000 series prior to the release of hd 6000 series... damn sure you don't want to buy now and two months later its price lower so much....
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a b U Graphics card
August 31, 2010 11:00:48 AM

I've corrected my comment, I meant a 6850. However depending upon pricing I may be swayed to buy a 5870 when the price drop comes, I'm not too certain, Either way its a massive upgrade from my 9800GT, but atleast with a 6850 it has newer features and I get bragging rights ;) 
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a b U Graphics card
August 31, 2010 11:08:19 AM

Anything coming out in the HD5970 area? But i think that would not make sense. The HD5970 is a powerful card in itself and improving on t would only eat into its limited customer base.
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a b U Graphics card
August 31, 2010 11:11:07 AM

Yes, there's expected to be a 6970 and 6950, The 6950 isn't expected to be released until the 6970 actually gets competition however (this is the same case as the 5xxx series but seeing as theres no competition for the 5970 theres no need to release a 5950)

The 6970 is effectively going to be 2x 5870's on a single PCB according to what I've heard.
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August 31, 2010 11:14:37 AM

for the time being there are so little info about hd 6000 series even its going to the market later this year... i don't knw hw gud 6850 will be but i assume it should be better if not alot better than hd 5000 series... i'm also eyeing the hd 6000 series....
despite just purchased a gtx 460 1gb recently.... this card is really bang for buck!!!!
just hopefully when the hd 6000 series is out... there will be less driver issues with that series....
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a b U Graphics card
August 31, 2010 11:27:51 AM

Yes, as we all hope.
However the current benchmarks released (assumed 5870) suggest a 25~30% increase of performance at stock(assumed again)

But for all we know it could be a 5850 benchmark? that would be awesome!
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September 1, 2010 11:02:59 AM

if 6850 can be better than 5870 while still maintaining the hd 5850 tdp... this card will be damn rock!!!
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a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2010 5:15:52 PM

http://www.hexus.net/content/item.php?item=26184



Possible 6870? Seems within reason. Interestingly enough, the memory bandwidth is actually a greater increase over the 5870, than the 5870 was over the 4870. 5870 was 153 GB/s, 4870 was 115 GB/s. This shows this possible 6870 at over 200 GB/s, for a 33% increase over the 5870. This is within the realm of reason, however id believe maybe 25% more easily. If its true though, very promising for AMD. For those who failed in math, 4870 to 5870 was 30% increase. Might be a fake, but who knows.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
September 1, 2010 5:37:23 PM

How many times are people going to post the same GPuz shot?
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a b U Graphics card
September 1, 2010 5:56:41 PM

Some other leaks show it being ATLEAST 33% faster than the 5870...up to 20% faster than the 480.
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a c 271 U Graphics card
September 1, 2010 5:58:05 PM

This next topics has been merged by Mousemonkey
  • New 6870 benchmarks.
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    a c 271 U Graphics card
    September 1, 2010 8:41:37 PM

    This next topics has been merged by Mousemonkey
  • 6870 Benchmark?
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    a c 130 U Graphics card
    September 1, 2010 9:27:12 PM

    Nah im not buying it, I'm thinking its marketing BS to try and stop people falling on the ever improving GTX 460. Everyone who knows anything has been saying that we wont get too much performance boost and then here we are with a card showing huge numbers, convenient isn't it :D 

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    a b U Graphics card
    September 2, 2010 7:58:10 AM

    Nothing can be decided till the final card is released into the market. Wait till guru3d and AnandTech review it.
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    September 2, 2010 11:04:25 AM

    if 6870 is really that fast as showed in the leaked benchmark.... i think i know what my next card is.... but still... i don't believe it will be this good... just wait more info from amd....
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    September 6, 2010 3:38:13 AM

    If those leaked benchmarks are right, the 6000 series will rock. Once again, Nvidia is in serious trouble. I just bought a 5850 three months ago, so I will probably pass on the 6000 cards. The 5850 should be good for another year or two.
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    a b U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 4:55:20 AM

    Yes, If nvidia can only get there last generation finaly rolled out at the start of ATI next generation they really are screwed, Considering the last ATI generation is still pretty kickass...
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    September 6, 2010 8:04:00 AM

    I read somewhere that some alleged benchmarks of ATI's Radeon HD 6870 show that is it actually faster than the HD 5970!

    I find this hard to believe. Mainly because as far as to my knowledge, no testable Northern Island prototype exists yet. Whatever HD 6870 benchmark, assuming it's not fake, was probably the 40nm "Southern Island".

    Maybe Two HD 6970's in CrossfireX can run Crysis on 2560x1600 with 8x AA and all the other graphics settings cranked as high as they can go, and we'll have 75+ FPS.
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    a b U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 8:12:20 AM

    Maybe they stepped up a gear seeing that how GTX460 is eating into the market.
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    a c 125 U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 8:16:20 AM

    Got the benchmark link?

    Oh and you spelt Metro 2033 with a 'C', 'r', 'y','s','i', and another 's'. :) 
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    a c 130 U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 8:23:56 AM

    Glacier said:
    If those leaked benchmarks are right, the 6000 series will rock. Once again, Nvidia is in serious trouble. I just bought a 5850 three months ago, so I will probably pass on the 6000 cards. The 5850 should be good for another year or two.


    How do you work that then ? Do you know what the high end Nvidia cards will be ?
    You need to remember that the Bandwidth doesn't really mean anything. The 4770 has 51.2 GB/sec and the 5670 has 64 GB/sec on the spec sheets but the 4770 is easily the faster card.
    Even if those screen shots are legit then Nvidia are still ok the next top end card is rumoured to be a dual card and they can easily get a card with the same Gbs/sec without any power worries.
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    September 6, 2010 9:53:06 AM

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    Got the benchmark link?

    Oh and you spelt Metro 2033 with a 'C', 'r', 'y','s','i', and another 's'. :) 


    Crysis graphically still looks better than Metro 2033, tesselation combined with extremely high resolutions are what kills the framerate in Metro.

    It's also even more poorly coded than Crysis.
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    a c 125 U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 10:12:48 AM

    Just a joke man :)  although some may argue that metro looks better than Crysis as its a matter of opinion. I think they both look great in there own way, and I would also say they are both badly coded.

    Personally I think BFBC2 on Max looks very similar to Crysis on Max, though the frame rates are completely different. :) 
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    a b U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 10:20:08 AM

    It's also even more poorly coded than Crysis. said:
    It's also even more poorly coded than Crysis.


    i've seen this statement a million times. but this is the first time i'll ask this question.

    do you do game code to know whats a poor game code?
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    a b U Graphics card
    September 6, 2010 10:47:46 AM

    A code which cannot efficiently use hardware resources are tagged as unoptimised code.Just like care engine some will give u 15km/L while other will give u 10km/L. said:
    A code which cannot efficiently use hardware resources are tagged as unoptimised code.Just like care engine some will give u 15km/L while other will give u 10km/L.


    oohhh so the ferrari, the lambo, the aston martin, using your analogy, are very poor cars then?
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