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October 15, 2010 2:54:32 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: would like to have it before the end of next week


Budget Range: $450-500


System Usage from Most to Least Important: surfing the internet, watching movies, gaming (occasionally play sc2, league of legends)


Parts Not Required: mouse, keyboard, os ($70 through university)


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg


Country of Origin: US


Parts Preferences: amd


Overclocking: probably not


SLI or Crossfire: no


Monitor Resolution: what ever you guys recommend


Additional Comments: poor college student whose laptop recently died. wouldnt mind starting out with an integrated graphics card and upgrading later (blackfriday/xmas)

Heres what i was thinking...

LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA Model GH24NS50 - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Seagate Barracuda 7200.11 ST3320613AS 320GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hanns·G HZ201HPB Black 20" 5ms HDMI Widescreen LCD Monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ600MXSP 600W + Antec Three Hundred Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

AMD Athlon II X3 450 Rana 3.2GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop + ASUS M4A78T-E AM3 AMD 790GX HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

$485 after promo code and rebates

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated
thanks!

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a c 113 B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 5:00:47 PM

This hard drive is VERY fast and even cheaper:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It seems like you have done incredibly well here for under 500. I didn't go looking myself, but the parts are all fine and the price seems excellent.
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 6:19:24 PM

GIGABYTE GA-770T-USB3 + AMD Athlon II X3 445
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
G.SKILL NS 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 ST3500418AS 500GB + OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
LG DVD Burner - Bulk Black SATA + Rosewill Blackbone
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
SAPPHIRE 100283-3L Radeon HD 5770
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

$484.92

Oops, you need a monitor, disregard that.
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a c 113 B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 6:35:36 PM

The problem with the larger monitor is you'll need more GPU to handle it. About one step up from whatever you might have got.... say from a 5670 to a 5770. If that sounds OK then it's probably a good idea.
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October 15, 2010 6:50:07 PM

ds280506 said:

Mushkin Enhanced Essentials 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10666) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


You might want to check the price diff for going to 8 GB. RAM is pretty cheap at that speed and don't forget your OS is going to gobble up about 1 GB of it.
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 6:52:54 PM

You can game at any resolution you want on a bigger monitor but for movies is much better.
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a c 113 B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 7:12:55 PM

Here's a little quote about "native resolution" that may explain things:
http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2004/09/16/whats-nat...

Quote:
The ‘native resolution’ specification points out one of the big differences between LCD and CRT displays. If you run an LCD at any resolution other than its native resolution, the display will become fuzzy or blurry, especially with text. The reason this happens on LCDs is that they are made up of tiny cells in a matrix (called the native resolution). For instance, if the native resolution is listed as 1280×1024, then there are 1280 cells across and 1024 cells down the screen. If you only display at 1024×768, then a large number of the pixels are being ’stretched’ over multiple cells, which is what causes the image quality to degrade (think Jumbotron at the ballpark).

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a b B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 7:44:40 PM

don't bother for 8 GB right now.
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October 15, 2010 8:13:57 PM

thanks for the help guys, really appreciate it.

switching to :

SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD322GJ/U 320GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5"

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and

ASUS M4A785TD-M EVO AM3 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard + AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana 3.1GHz Socket AM3 95W Triple-Core Desktop Processor ADX445WFGMBOX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

this brings the total to $448 after rebates

still open for any more suggestions/changes
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 15, 2010 8:52:10 PM

Proximon said:
Here's a little quote about "native resolution" that may explain things:
http://www.lockergnome.com/windows/2004/09/16/whats-nat...

Quote:
The ‘native resolution’ specification points out one of the big differences between LCD and CRT displays. If you run an LCD at any resolution other than its native resolution, the display will become fuzzy or blurry, especially with text. The reason this happens on LCDs is that they are made up of tiny cells in a matrix (called the native resolution). For instance, if the native resolution is listed as 1280×1024, then there are 1280 cells across and 1024 cells down the screen. If you only display at 1024×768, then a large number of the pixels are being ’stretched’ over multiple cells, which is what causes the image quality to degrade (think Jumbotron at the ballpark).


That won't be seen in games, millions of people including myself game on lower resolutions than the native one.
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October 15, 2010 9:03:46 PM

got it ordered...thanks for everyone's help

im sure the real fun will begin next week when i attempt to put it all together....
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a c 113 B Homebuilt system
October 16, 2010 1:08:50 AM

mosox said:
That won't be seen in games, millions of people including myself game on lower resolutions than the native one.


I can't argue with you, I'm simply repeating what I've heard over and over from many sources over the years.

The LCD thread here says something similar, for instance:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=39226

I have noticed problems before and other times not. Any lowered resolution issues I can specifically recall were on an older LCD monitor. Perhaps the newer ones do have better control.

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a b B Homebuilt system
October 16, 2010 1:23:21 AM

Yep but not noticeable in gaming or movies, only the writing. Anyway most of us lose much more in games due to our less than high-end video cards, so we can't have AA, AF, DX11 in many games and whatnot. And yes, the newer monitors are better.
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October 23, 2010 10:20:19 PM

Best answer selected by ds280506.
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