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Hey guys, im looking to buy some more/faster ram and i was clueless on the sub category of my prob so if this is the wrong spot you know why =)

all i could find about my motherboard was

X58 mATX Motherboard
Memory
Number of Memory Slots6×240pin
Memory StandardDDR3 1333
Maximum Memory Supported24GB
Channel SupportedTriple Channel

does that mean i can only use 1333 ram?

some my specs are:

Alien aurora ALX
I7 960 3.2
9.00GB 1333
64-bit OS
crossfired 2gb 6950s
I think 875 wat power sup

i see they are selling this modle with 1866 ram but im not sure if it would come with a diff motherboard.

thx for help! :) 


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The0n3 said:
i found this
Board: Alienware 04VWF2 A02
BIOS: Alienware A11 11/10/2010

Its weird cuz on the site they will let you buy 1600 ( something like that) ram with the computer.

This is the best i can find. It can support up to 24GB of 1333MHZ DDR3 RAM, 12GB of 1600MHz RAM, or 6GB of 1866MHz RAM according to Dell.

The0n3 said:
cool, thanks - what do you think is best for a gaming rig 6gb @ 1866 or 12 at 1600


Honestly you really don't need more than 4 unless your doing multi tasking i guess if your gaming have the 6gb running at 1866 even know there isn't a big difference but its up to you.
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Many Alienware have the option in the BIOS to set the 'Memory Ratio' above Dell's typical locked-out memory settings. IF your BIOS has 'Memory Ratio' then IMO get DDR3-1600 CAS 8/9 4GB/stick in 3x4GB Kit(s).

Before buying check the BIOS under Frequency/Voltage Control verify 'Memory Ratio' can be set 12 or above first!!!

133.33 * 12 = DDR3-1600
133.33 * 14 = DDR3-1866

Also, anything >DDR3-1600 probably will require 'Adjust CPU BCLK' under the Overclock Configuration.

IMO 3x4GB DDR3-1600 is the best choice for most X58 users with BIOS control. For the performance and GB/$:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model 998776 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then shelve of sell your current RAM. The cost benefit for 1866 MHz isn't there for the 1~4FPS, but I run DDR3-2000 on my 980X.

Good DDR3-2000MHz - Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 2000 Model 998990 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Keep in mind those are Budget-Performance kits. This is what I'm running, Corsair Dominator GT 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 2000 with Air Fan Model CMT12GX3M3A2000C9 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

jaquith said:
Many Alienware have the option in the BIOS to set the 'Memory Ratio' above Dell's typical locked-out memory settings. IF your BIOS has 'Memory Ratio' then IMO get DDR3-1600 CAS 8/9 4GB/stick in 3x4GB Kit(s).

Before buying check the BIOS under Frequency/Voltage Control verify 'Memory Ratio' can be set 12 or above first!!!

133.33 * 12 = DDR3-1600
133.33 * 14 = DDR3-1866

Also, anything >DDR3-1600 probably will require 'Adjust CPU BCLK' under the Overclock Configuration.

IMO 3x4GB DDR3-1600 is the best choice for most X58 users with BIOS control. For the performance and GB/$:
Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model 998776 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Then shelve of sell your current RAM. The cost benefit for 1866 MHz isn't there for the 1~4FPS, but I run DDR3-2000 on my 980X.

Good DDR3-2000MHz - Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 2000 Model 998990 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...




Thank you for explaing to him more than i knew but do alien ware use tri channel or quad channel i thought they used tri channel thats why i suggested 6gb

Keep in mind those are Budget-Performance kits. This is what I'm running, Corsair Dominator GT 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 2000 with Air Fan Model CMT12GX3M3A2000C9 -> http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



Thank you for explaing to him more than i knew but do alien ware use tri channel or quad channel i thought they used tri channel thats why i suggested 6gb
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The "Mushkin Enhanced Blackline 12GB (3 x 4GB) DDR3 1600 Model 998776" as I've listed above. It's a function of stability and cost.

Getting $256 or even $140 of 12GB is crazy unless you have all sorts of money and have SSD, GPUs, etc already. The $78 12GB DDR3-1600 CAS 9 makes sense to most configurations and wallets.
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First, 9.999/10 your biggest problem is the SATA limitations to your SSD, at best you're loosing ~180MB/s R/W speeds off the top of your 550/500MB/s. DDR3-1600 won't slow down your SSD nor its' performance.

Q - What chipset is your SSD connect to now?

just got it a few days ago, im a noob i basically just plugged it in and formated it to NTFS and put two of my fav games on it lol. i was planning on reformating my old drive and putting my OS on it on the weekend. if u have any suggestions to help a noob out feel free =)

Best solution

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Looking at both the specs and downloads there's NO SATA3 ports and they all seem to be SATA2 {~280~290MB/s}, I hoped you at least had a Marvell 912X which is a x1 PCIe lane or theoretical 500MB/s {real world 'shared bandwidth' ~370MB/s -- hence the '9.999/10'}. If you indeed have an OCZ Vertex 3 then you're losing almost half your SSD speed.

Only the newest X58 MOBO's utilize Marvell 918X chipset which is x2 PCIe lanes to achieve the full R/W speed of the OCZ Vertex 3.

ref - http://www.dell.com/us/p/alienware-aurora-alx/pd

Solutions:
1. SATA3 Card with x1 PCIe lane, affordable, but still losing ~180MB/s R/W speeds.
Example $30 HighPoint Rocket 620 PCI-Express 2.0 x1 SATA III (6.0Gb/s) Controller Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ref {Marvell 912X} http://www.highpoint-tech.com/usa_new/series_rr600.htm
2. SATA3 Card with x4+ PCIe lanes and Marvell 918X, very expensive, and achieve full SATA3 speeds.
Example $400+ {LSI} Intel RAID SATA 8 internal port w/ 256MB cache memory PCI-E 2.0 x8 Controller Card (RT3WB080) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
3. New X58 MOBO with Marvell 918X chipset, expensive, and achieve full SATA3 speeds.
Example $220 GIGABYTE G1.Guerrilla LGA 1366 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
ref {Marvell 9182} http://www.gigabyte.us/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3...

See -> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?...

hmmm the new MOBO option is tempting, but im prob to much of a noob to do the change, ill prob have to settle for option 1. with option two am i able to hook up more then one OCZ Vertex 3? for a raid 0 config
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IMO - I would NOT RAID 0 the OCZ Vertex 3 on ANY PCIe x1 or Marvell 912X controller, it would be a enormous waste {loss} of R/W speed i.e. 1/2 poof aka gone.

Your choices are really limited to options 2 & 3, and BEFORE purchasing either contact Intel or Adaptec for the 6-series -> http://www.adaptec.com/en-us/_common/series6/

Adaptec has good customer support, BUT the 6-series are big bucks for anything good/worth buying i.e. >$400.

Getting some of these controller cards to work on Consumer let alone OEM e.g. Dell/Alienware is difficult if not impossible. Frequently, the BIOS of the MOBO won't release/provide adequate support/memory/resources to the controllers. Server and Workstation MOBOs are more generally supported.

Ive spent about a hour checking out how to replace the mobo and stuff, i think i mite be able to do it. If so would this mobo you told me about fit? It doesint seem to bad, theres a video on Utube video that shows u how to strip the alienware modle i have, if this would work it would be awsome because eventually i wanted to get a faster processor

Ill measure the one i have tomoro, cuz my tapes at work. But everything looks the same, one thing that is different ( or i cant see because my gfx card is over top of it ) is the passive cooler for the southbridge, would that be to big or would my graphic cards fit over top of that as well?

cool man, thanks alot for your help. So when i get this i hook everythign up the same, and turn it on and it should just work? or is there lots of drivers and stuff i have to change around in bios. I'll look up the detales you have helped me enough just kinda want to get pointed in the right direction

dang, no deals. the hight of my tower is only about 14''. The power supply is basically butted up to the bottom of the mobo and to the right of that is all my hard drive bays, only have 10'' to 10''1/4 to work with

Hey, sry this is [Solved] but i still got a question lol, im deciding to go with the first option you gave me for my SDD, also my memory ratio can go to 16, budget aside what would u get if you were me? I'm planning on getting a new system in less then a year but i want to push this system as far as possible =) thx man!
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