I am building my first PC and having trouble with a case and with a powersupply.
I read some reviews and made calculations to have as good PC as possible with minimal resources.
I give the list i would like to buy but i need help with a case and powersupply.
I am not a hardcore gamer, mostly i would use it for school (modelling and sometimes games).
I have a very similar build, I went with the Zotac NVidia GTX465 video card. I have some ATI cards, but NVidia's extra features like the CUDU cores help me when using x264 encoding software like badaboom... takes all the load off the CPU. Also, because of the video card you are looking at, and the CPU wattage, I would recommend at least 550-600w PSU from Antec, Coolermaster or Corsair...
Also for the board, I would recommend the Asus M4A88T-M/USB3, because it has a better northbridge chipset AMD 880G
And for your question, check the case and make sure you can mount a 120mm fan... don't go with the smaller fans if you require a fan... because the stock AMD CPU cooler is already a little noisy... you don't want to make it worse. And also, the AMD can run a little warm without either a better heatsink and fan, or an additional 120mm case fan.
AMD and Nvidia both have a lot of things on the table right now... I kicked around this same question myself for a month, and just bought the NVidia because the CUDA cores are good for encoding, also you can play games in 3D with standard glasses...
It is actually a little faster than the GTX465, but NVidia has some other perks I liked. The HD6850 is also a bit cheaper. When looking at graphics cards... set exactly how much you can spend, then make sure they have GDDR5, at least 1GB of memory... DX11, and possible PCIe 2.1... see which one can fit best into your budget... But it is usually a bad idea in my opinion to look at the older generation GPU just to save a little money... cause the newer ones are better in the long run.
Some people argue with me about this... why buy a GTX465 when the 9800GTX is still a good performer... mainly because it has a lot more shader units,more cuda cores, higher clocks, higher performance memory and so on. Just like the newer AMD/ATI will have more stream processors.
So just pick what fits best into your budget with the highest specs and latest technology. Try not to look back too far just to save a little.
I built my rig for a little less than $1000. I bought everything when it was on sale between Newegg and a local dealer.
AMD Phenom II x4 965 BE, Asus M4A88T-M/USB3,8GB DDR3 (4 x 2GB) Kinston DDR3-1333, Zotac GTX465 1GB GDDR5, 2 x 1TB SATA WD1001FALS HDD, Pioneer DVR-219 SATA DVD-RW Coolermaster 550W PSU, Coolermaster Elite 360 Case
I will tally my receipts and update this post with what the final cost was.
Well, some of the items I bought like the Western Digital WD1001FALS is discontinued. And most of the stuff I bought is a little cheaper than what I paid. But I searched everything for you just using USA newegg... and the final cost is only $844.88 before shipping and tax.
I substituted the WD black drives I have for the newer blue drives. And the pioneer DVD-RW I changed to the OEM pack model of the ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS
Let me go over the list... see what you think. This price range still leaves room for different power supplies, and different video cards or cases... this just gives you an idea. But I can guarantee this large video card will fit in this case. If you PM me, I will email you pictures if you like...
Here is the list.
ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM $19.99
Item #: N82E16827135204
COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini Tower Computer Case $39.99
Item #: N82E16811119195
Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
Item #: N82E16822136534
$69.99 each x 2 = $139.98
ASUS M4A88T-M/USB3 AM3 AMD 880G USB 3.0 HDMI Micro ATX AMD Motherboard $99.99
Item #: N82E16813131660
According to the PSU calculator from Cooler Master... without a video card the system will use around 264 watts... however, 1 high end card can easily double it... If I select my video card as NVidia GTX465 the calculation jumps to 488 watts... so a PSU 500-600 is a better idea if you want to run a 4 core CPU and a high end video card.
The 465 is awful in what respect? It is just a slightly disabled 470. I replaced my Jetway 9800GTX and so far it has been great. Also a side note, I am living in ShaoGuan City China at the moment.... and the 470 or higher is almost double the price... I picked up the 465 from a local store for less than $165
The Asus board I mentioned has a better northbridge and audio realtek audio... which I always find better. If we want to build the cheapest computer possible just buy an INTEL LGA775 CPU and board...
You can always go to a microcenter and get a $10 case with power supply, a $40 celeron and a 9800GTX for $70
I am only trying to stay around the same things he originally asked about in the first post. And he also said for around $1000... so he could get any video card or case he liked and still fit the bill.
No harm... I do agree they are over priced in the US... I've been living in China for 2 years now and I usually get things from Jetway and Zotac cheaply... I had my heart set on the HD6870... but price prevailed for me. The GTX465 was 1150 Chinese RMB = to about $165... but the 470 is 2200 RMB = to about $330... but all the ATi cards 6850 or 6870 are all over $250 here...
But the build I showed him is basically what I got... it's pretty good for the price... the Intel setup to about the same performance is like double the price... But every time I upgrade, I switch from AMD to INTEL... then INTEL to AMD... whichever is best bang for the buck.
For our friend here KaidoT, what country is he in? Prices vary from places to place a lot these days.
In China, I am always forced to buy ASUS or ASRock boards... all the Foxconn, Jetway, Gigabyte and such all cost 2 or 3 times more than USA. What pisses me off is the constant price ups and downs in China. When I bought my core 2 system last year, I picked the e7500. One day it is $88, the next day $128, the next day $110... so I hurry to buy it, then it is $65 right after it was delivered to my door.
Also the memory plays games every day. If you want to buy Kingston DDR3 1333 2GB, Monday it is $20, Tuesday it is $50, then Wednesday it is $22
Thanks alot, again very good information to consider.
I live in Estonia, here are the prices much higher
Thats the reason, why i am so concerned about the right buildups, just to have the expenses and the outcome performance equally balanced.