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January 13, 2011 7:07:10 AM

OK guys and gals, I'm taking the plunge and building my first computer - whew can you see the nervous sweat pouring off of my forehead :-). I've done a bunch of reading of case reviews and I still cannot find a "consensus" case that everyone agrees is the best for the money. Please offer all of those reading this thread the wisdom of your computer wiz experience.

Specs:

Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe
PSU: Corsair 850 HX
Video Card: ATI 6950 or GTX 570
HD: Samsung f3 1TB
SSD (waiting for Sandforce 3 to come out)

I'm not a big gamer and so one video card is sufficient. USB 3.0 integrated into the case is mandatory. The case being quiet is important. I just want to air cool everything - water cooling seems complicated to me right now. I don't care if the case is big or medium size. Price range $50 - $200. Case doesn't have to look spectacular - just work well and be high quality. It would be nice if it has quality components without sharp edges and is easy to work on.

I still don't understand the advantage of having hot swappable drives - I know what it is, I just don't understand how and why you guys use them. Maybe to replace a bad HD while a second one runs the computer????

OK, now that you know what I am looking for, hit me with your best shot.

Thanks in advance to you pros who will lend me the wisdom of your experience

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a b ) Power supply
January 13, 2011 11:52:44 AM
a b ) Power supply
January 13, 2011 12:46:36 PM

i thought about the silverstone's but they dont have usb3.0... so taking your required specs the best i can come across is the following

Full Tower choices in order
1. CM Haf X
2. Antec DF85
3. Lian Li PC-A77F
New case - Rosewill THOR (no idea on its quality and build but has almost all options you are looking for)

Mid Tower choices in order
1. Lian-Li PC-8FU
2. Thermaltake V9 BlacX Edition
3. Corsair 600T
CM Haf 912 advanced (if you can get one since its for asian market only)

As beanoslim said no need for 850 for your current spec... around 500-600W good quality psu should be sufficient... and you could always go for 2 X 460 GTX... not much price difference (less than $100) when compared to a standalone 470 and better performance than a standalone 480...

Edit - i just noticed you said one gpu is enough so scratch the last part...
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January 13, 2011 5:41:23 PM

Geez....same question being asked alot of late. I copied this from a post I made in another thread.

I have built boxes using the 1200, 932, HAF-X and DF-85 .... the HAF-X replaces the 932; the DF-85 replaces the 1200.

I like all the new features added to the HAF-X .... I don't like some of the features that stayed.

The DF-85 greatly improves on the 1200 however . The time to take out / replace air filters for example on the DF-85 takes seconds compared to minutes on the 1200 (HAF doesn't have air filters). The hot swap 2.5" bay on top of the DF-85 just rocks for taking data from one PC to another. And the DF retains all the nice fan speed controls of the 1200. Finally I prefer the sturdinees of the DF as compared to the "loosey goosey" tool less features of the HAF series. Finally, the DF still fits CPX form factor PSU's making for a quieter computing experience.

1st choice - Antec DF-85 w/ CP-850 is $270
2nd choice - HAF-X w/ XFX Black 850 is $310 (Corsair HX850 is another choice but it's $40 more
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January 13, 2011 9:14:59 PM

JackNaylorPE said:
Geez....same question being asked alot of late. I copied this from a post I made in another thread.

I have built boxes using the 1200, 932, HAF-X and DF-85 .... the HAF-X replaces the 932; the DF-85 replaces the 1200.

I like all the new features added to the HAF-X .... I don't like some of the features that stayed.

The DF-85 greatly improves on the 1200 however . The time to take out / replace air filters for example on the DF-85 takes seconds compared to minutes on the 1200 (HAF doesn't have air filters). The hot swap 2.5" bay on top of the DF-85 just rocks for taking data from one PC to another. And the DF retains all the nice fan speed controls of the 1200. Finally I prefer the sturdinees of the DF as compared to the "loosey goosey" tool less features of the HAF series. Finally, the DF still fits CPX form factor PSU's making for a quieter computing experience.

1st choice - Antec DF-85 w/ CP-850 is $270
2nd choice - HAF-X w/ XFX Black 850 is $310 (Corsair HX850 is another choice but it's $40 more


I second that! both great PSUs and cases
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January 14, 2011 4:28:43 AM

Thanks guys, some really good suggestion here - I am studying them. I got the Corsair power supply for $125.00 on sale and so that is why I went with the 850 HX (plus it is rated highly). Concerning the comments that a lot of people asking about the best case - reading the reviews for cases is a can of worms. It is difficult without actually buying and trying a case to gauge the quality, the cooling performance, the ease use, reliability and the form factor. Several comments in this thread are from people who have already purchased and used several of the best cases available and people who read this thread can benefit from that first-hand experience of experienced builders. Comparing card reviews or PSU reviews or CPU reviews is much easier than reviewing cases. That is why the question keeps popping up. The experts on this forum bring real-world insight to less experienced computer users.

I have another question, does the case I select have to be compatible (from the manufacturer) with the Intel 2600K Asus Mobo? I am sorry if this is a dumb question but many of the case reviews say "ATX 58 compatible." Can almost any case be used with the new 2600K motherboards?
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January 14, 2011 5:08:24 AM

as long as your motherboard is an ATX motherboard then look for a case that is specified for a ATX size motherboard. Most are, and if Micro ATX or mATX then make sure that your case can fit micro ATX, even more cases support these boards.

should be easy and if you dont know how to find it by looking at the cases' specs or manufacture website then just ask here and most anyone would be willing to help.

I have heard that HX line had been switched to a different manufacture from seasonic to cwt (i think) leading to poorer quality PSUs. A dirty trick to save money. I would have gone with the XFX 850 made by seasonic or an original model of the HX from seasonic but the cwt PSU should get the job done.
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a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2011 8:28:22 AM

All the cases here will take an ATX board.

Thing is when you are looking at quality cases like HAF-X/Antec 900/Corsair etc they are all quality units.

Don't forget you have to look at this thing every day so pick the one you like the look of best.

I doubt you'll be dissapointed with any of the features and spec they supply.

I think you'll be fine with the HX850 http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=...
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January 14, 2011 6:30:03 PM

Is the Asus P8P67 deluxe and ATX motherboard, because it is designed for the 2600 K cpu?
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a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2011 6:54:45 PM

The boards are micro atx, atx or extended atx, doesn't matter bout the cpu.

The P8P67D-M is the micro.

Standard boards are ATX.

Boards that have an E are extended, bigger.
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a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2011 8:22:05 PM

Is that a new design, what colour inside?

?Cooling power?
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a b ) Power supply
January 14, 2011 8:36:55 PM

Nice, and a 650D. [:beanoslim:2]
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January 15, 2011 7:39:53 AM

Thank you very much for explaining so succinctly the difference in atx boards. Though I have an engineering degree it is not in computers and frankly, self-educating yourself on how to build a computer is not a cake walk even with the internet. You cleverly explained in one paragraph what takes Wickipedia 8 pages to say.

I am thinking seriously about the black Corsair 600T (the white is too flashy for me). It seems to be a very high quality, well built, has USB 3.0 and has a lot of the best features. The only downside is that it wasn't the best at cooling - that may be because additional fans are needed.
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January 15, 2011 7:41:09 AM

BTW, the white 600T does look very classy - much more interesting than all black
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January 15, 2011 8:43:46 AM

Hey Guys - the Corsair 600T is on sale at Newegg for $145 after rebate and free shipping. The Antec 900 is on sale for $80 after a $20 rebate with $6.00 for shipping. My question is can I install the USB 3.0 bar that comes with the unit in a 5.25 inch bay in the Antec 900? It would seem that is what the 3.0 bar is designed for.

The Antec is rated very high and it is cheap at $86
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 8:54:46 AM

I think the extra fans make the 600T pretty cool, I'm with you on the white version.

I thought the usb3 box was fitted to the 3.5" floppy bay, maybe not?

Either way it fits in any 5.25 or 3.5 inch case bay.

The 900 is cheaper because th 902 has been realeased, the 900 is still a good case, especially at that price.

Personally I'd take the 600T out of the 2 but then it is is nearly twice the price, I'm waiting for the 650D.
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January 15, 2011 3:55:31 PM

flong said:
Thank you very much for explaining so succinctly the difference in atx boards. Though I have an engineering degree it is not in computers and frankly, self-educating yourself on how to build a computer is not a cake walk even with the internet. You cleverly explained in one paragraph what takes Wickipedia 8 pages to say.

I am thinking seriously about the black Corsair 600T (the white is too flashy for me). It seems to be a very high quality, well built, has USB 3.0 and has a lot of the best features. The only downside is that it wasn't the best at cooling - that may be because additional fans are needed.



What i suggest is the HAF 932 BLACK edition. If your not into side windows then maybe HAF 922/912. I personally dont like the style of the HAF series some days and other i do, but their airflow is unquestionable.

Now, one that gets great airflow but seems like it wouldn't is the NZXT Phantom. crazy i know but i seen test where its only beaten out by the DF-85 for airflow and that is by less then one degree.

Hey! theres another one to look at DF-85 or that series.

Personally i like the looks of Lancool's offerings best

but here are some links *no particular order* :
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... df-85
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... haf 932 black
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... NZXT phantom (comes also in white and red)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Lancool PC-K62

thats what you want to be looking at unless you can afford the HAF-X or Lian Li PC-P50 or LIAN LI PC-A77F; but thats what i like.
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 4:23:13 PM

^Cheap looking HAF-X wannabe. :D 
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 4:33:43 PM

beanoslim said:
^Cheap looking HAF-X wannabe. :D 


I actually prefer it. Better cable management, and more additional fans. Not as bleh looking either.
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January 15, 2011 7:46:25 PM

The HAF 932 is an amazing case and had the best cooling of any cases in the Overclocker's review I read. However it does not have USB 3.0 in the front ports and it only has one 3.5" bay. I need two, one for the Asus deluxe USB 3.0 panel and one for a card reader. Still, it is a great case. It has over 1700 reviews on Newegg which tells you it is a popular choice.
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January 15, 2011 8:00:55 PM

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Antec 1200 > HAF

Plus its better looking.

i hate most of the HAF and antec line, their cooling is great but they all look awfully tacky....[:boudy:3]

* the same way a yellow lambo looks tacky, its for 12 year old boys...but i guess everyone has a small child in them, so some days i kinda like all that plastic and leds, SOME DAYS!*
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 8:00:57 PM

Quote:
Antec 1200 > HAF

Plus its better looking.


FT02>/= THOR>HAF X>Antec 1200>HAF 932>CM 690 II>..............................................................................>Corsair 600T.

Im sorry, but the 600T has horrible stock cooling, and almost no options for improvement. Great looking case, great features, but pathetic cooling, which makes it a bad choice IMO.
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January 15, 2011 8:04:19 PM

Question: the Corsair 600T has no external 3.5" bays for a card reader - do card readers come in 5.25" compatibility?
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January 15, 2011 8:05:50 PM

ares1214 said:
FT02>/= THOR>HAF X>Antec 1200>HAF 932>CM 690 II>..............................................................................>Corsair 600T.

Im sorry, but the 600T has horrible stock cooling, and almost no options for improvement. Great looking case, great features, but pathetic cooling, which makes it a bad choice IMO.


lol, yup, i agree,*just about the 600t though* but its great if your doing some extreme watercooling, corsair designs it for water cooling so if your air cooling then yeah, expect to get horrible temps.

**actually, there is not THAT much room for mounting a rad other then the top.....i guess its just more for looks, cuz if i was using that case i would want to watercooling cpu, vga and mosefs.
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January 15, 2011 8:07:41 PM

flong said:
Question: the Corsair 600T has no external 3.5" bays for a card reader - do card readers come in 5.25" compatibility?

if you want a card reader that bad then i suggest get whatever case u want and just buy a USB card reader.

i dont like them, they ruin the looks and do you really ever need them?!?! thats why i dont like dvd drives either, ruin those great looks and you hardly ever use them, just wasting electricity running them idle.
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 9:40:16 PM

Yeah the 600T can easily be improved. Boring...I'd say understated style with unparalleled design.

That white 600T is a hairdressers case. [:mousemonkey:5]
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January 15, 2011 9:45:40 PM

I use this computer for business and I use a card reader extensively and so it if important to have easy access. I don't want a separate USB card reader on my desk. Also, it is not real important to me how the case looks (sacrilege at this website - I know ha, ha). I am much more concerned about how well the case functions than how it looks.

The Corsair 650D appears to be a fantastic case and they have remedied the stock cooling issues of the 600T. If it comes out soon I will consider it.
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 9:54:09 PM

flong said:
I use this computer for business and I use a card reader extensively and so it if important to have easy access. I don't want a separate USB card reader on my desk. Also, it is not real important to me how the case looks (sacrilege at this website - I know ha, ha). I am much more concerned about how well the case functions than how it looks.

The Corsair 650D appears to be a fantastic case and they have remedied the stock cooling issues of the 600T. If it comes out soon I will consider it.


Due 15th March UK - http://www.scan.co.uk/products/corsair-obsidian-series-...
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a b ) Power supply
January 15, 2011 9:54:44 PM

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FT02 is as boring as they can get and there are ways to improve the 600T's cooling.


Well, the FT02 isnt quite as boring as the Lian Li Black Boxes, and has the best cooling money can buy. 600T, not really, just spending more more on better fans. You can do the same with any case.
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January 15, 2011 10:02:14 PM

Boring!!!
Silverstone and lianli cases are sleek and smooth; if sexy is boring and plastic with flashing rainbow LEDs are where its at then my name is Rubens Barrichello.

and its not



white plastic or steel is not good looking, white/silver or black brushed aluminum is HOT!!!
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January 15, 2011 10:08:53 PM

flong said:
I use this computer for business and I use a card reader extensively and so it if important to have easy access. I don't want a separate USB card reader on my desk. Also, it is not real important to me how the case looks (sacrilege at this website - I know ha, ha). I am much more concerned about how well the case functions than how it looks.

The Corsair 650D appears to be a fantastic case and they have remedied the stock cooling issues of the 600T. If it comes out soon I will consider it.



oh dang i forgot that usb 3.0 is mandatory, now you need it to have an front panel connection right?
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January 15, 2011 10:32:02 PM

flong said:
OK guys and gals, I'm taking the plunge and building my first computer - whew can you see the nervous sweat pouring off of my forehead :-). I've done a bunch of reading of case reviews and I still cannot find a "consensus" case that everyone agrees is the best for the money. Please offer all of those reading this thread the wisdom of your computer wiz experience.

Specs:

Mobo: Asus P8P67 deluxe
PSU: Corsair 850 HX
Video Card: ATI 6950 or GTX 570
HD: Samsung f3 1TB
SSD (waiting for Sandforce 3 to come out)

I'm not a big gamer and so one video card is sufficient. USB 3.0 integrated into the case is mandatory. The case being quiet is important. I just want to air cool everything - water cooling seems complicated to me right now. I don't care if the case is big or medium size. Price range $50 - $200. Case doesn't have to look spectacular - just work well and be high quality. It would be nice if it has quality components without sharp edges and is easy to work on.

I still don't understand the advantage of having hot swappable drives - I know what it is, I just don't understand how and why you guys use them. Maybe to replace a bad HD while a second one runs the computer????

OK, now that you know what I am looking for, hit me with your best shot.

Thanks in advance to you pros who will lend me the wisdom of your experience




OK so going off what your looking for i dont know of too many usb 3.0 cases but anything antec that has "V3" in its name means its usb 3.0 ready.

the few i could find are
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... HAF X
you can get 20 bucks off now on newegg for 179

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... Antec 1200 V3
its 167.99 BUT its got 20 bucks on the shipping, see the thing about this is that EVERY fan has a built in fan controller, which is convenient but not essential, also you can always buy a fan controller for the haf but the haf x is pretty quite by itself. (from what i hear)

oh and corsiar 600t which is horrible air cooling and DF-85, which i like but looks awful


I would go with the HAF X, ends up being cheaper if you order soon or im sure you can find these cases even cheaper else where, also some manufactures offer additional front panel ports for sale that include USB 3.0 such as Lian Li.
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January 15, 2011 11:34:14 PM

This is the best thread ever - great answers you guys :-). It is funny and informative and a little sexy ha, ha.

I do use the USB connection a lot an it is important to have a USB 3.0 connection that is convenient - I hate having to go to the rear of the case and my desk is too small for a separate connector.

The Cooler Master 942 HAF is a definite finalist. The antec V3 1200 doesn't have 3.0. - though it looks like it does in the picture in Newegg but it isn't listed in the specs but I will take your word for it. Both cases appear to be about equal.
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January 15, 2011 11:40:14 PM

I think I would buy the Corsair 650D if it was available soon enough but its release date too far off.
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January 15, 2011 11:46:56 PM

The Antec 900 is also a finalist because it has one external 3.5" bay
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a b ) Power supply
January 16, 2011 12:11:15 AM

flong said:
I think I would buy the Corsair 650D if it was available soon enough but its release date too far off.


I wouldnt. Cooling remains unchanged. In fact, it might be even worse :(  Its a shame to waste such a great case design with such bad cooling.
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January 16, 2011 2:00:22 AM

ares1214 said:
I wouldnt. Cooling remains unchanged. In fact, it might be even worse :(  Its a shame to waste such a great case design with such bad cooling.



I agree 100% *sorry i was thinking of the obsidian line*

You know, im not sure about the 1200 V3, cuz on antec's site there is only a 900V3 not 1200...hmmmm, weird. I would go with the HAF X OR!!!!! I WOULD get an lian li case and pay for the USB 3.0 connection which i can link for you or buy one of the newer ones with a USB 3.0.
LIAN LI is much better then coolermaster imo, but you pay for it...pay for it alot.



hmmmmm sweet aluminum. I want to cover everything in that smooth brushed aluminum. so simplistic, so refined, classy, and smooth to the touch, just how i like my women ;) 
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January 16, 2011 2:37:13 AM

flong said:
The Antec 900 is also a finalist because it has one external 3.5" bay


eh, antec 900, its too outdated, i have heard of people "upgrading" to the 300 because it is so awful (mainly cable management reasons which restrict airflow). Most every new case has an adapter for 3.5 bays dont worry about that too much, focus on cooling, price and USB 3.0; everything is else you are looking is pretty much standard.
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a b ) Power supply
January 16, 2011 4:02:53 AM

CM HAF's are definitely all good cases. They are "roomy", simple to build in, easy to change or delete led's. Biggest plus to me is the HDD bays, sideways mounts.
As far as front USB 3.0 ports, you can always convert.
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January 16, 2011 6:30:15 AM

I think that the CM 942 HAF (the upgrade of the HAF 932) may be the best choice for the following reasons:

1. It is widely acknowledged to be either the best or in the top three for air cooling and I do not want to mess with water cooling on my first build. In general water and electronics is not a good idea for an inexperience builder and I do plan to overclock my 2600
2. It is available for less than $200.00 right now and comes with USB 3.0 in the front panel ($180 at Newegg with $20.00 rebate)
3. It is widely acknowledged as one of the better quality cases. It is not supposed to have sharp edges and poor quality components
4. It is widely acknowledged as one of the best cases to build in and with the exception of mobo access for the cpu cooler (the slot to access aftermarket coolers is too small) well thought out and organized. Most reviewers praise it's toolless
construction
5. Both 3.5" and 5.25" kits are available to install a card reader and the Asus Deluxe USB 3.0 panel if necessary.

I have reviewed every recommended case that has been suggested. Thank you for all your suggestions.

I also am still studying lian li cases and I frankly do not understand their model numbers and their availability is spotty even at Newegg. However, they are reputed to be may the best quality cases by many who have owned them. What do you guys think of this case: http://www.amazon.com/Lian-Li-PC-7FNWX-Interior-Window/... it is $179 plus shipping.
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a b ) Power supply
January 16, 2011 10:08:30 AM

ares1214 said:
I wouldnt. Cooling remains unchanged. In fact, it might be even worse :(  Its a shame to waste such a great case design with such bad cooling.


The 650D is the lovechild of the 700D and the 850D, niether of these cases have bad cooling.
I have read 6 different reviews and only 1 mentioned a heat issue but that was without additional fans.

Other than that the reviews I have seen actually comment on how good the cooling is.
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