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October 19, 2010 3:58:29 PM

Hello,

I have a list here that im looking at purchasing for a new build. I want to use Windows 7, and ill be mainly using the computer for Graphic/ Web Design and 3d modeling/ rendering. Occasional Crysis player =). I want to try to stay around $1000. I realize I'm missing the case, power supply, and an optical drive.Ill be adding those later, I want to get the main parts right.


Any suggestions, feedback or comments would be appreciated.


Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALS 1TB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

EVGA 768-P3-1360-TR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) 768MB 192-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card

CORSAIR XMS3 6GB (3 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model CMX6GX3M3C1600C7

ASUS P6X58D-E LGA 1366 Intel X58 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard

Intel Core i7-950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz LGA 1366 130W Quad-Core Processor BX80601950

October 20, 2010 3:28:32 PM

Wow, looks good, I dint know there was a 6 core cpu that was affordable, I was sort of looking at the i7 because of reviews showing better than most/ all AMD's. I also see the DDR3 is in a pair? so no triple channel Im guessing. Is that an AMD thing that it doesnt support triple-channel? or a motherboard thing?
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October 20, 2010 3:51:24 PM

the only CPUs/Boards that use tripple channel is the 1366 chipset the 1156 from intel only uses dual channel (even the i7 870 which is on 1156 uses dual channel)

dual vs. tri channel makes no real difference except dual channel is much cheaper....

tbh Batchuka made u a badass build only thing is im not a fan of mATX builds but is is a great build
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October 20, 2010 4:16:34 PM

so triple channel doesn't have much advantage over dual? I guess since I was looking at the i7 950 that supports it I was figuring it would be a little more "future-proof" than a dual channel kit. But indeed the build does look good, I got an AMD dual that performs fine.
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October 20, 2010 4:58:53 PM

well with both Sandy Bridge and Bulldozer coming from Intel and AMD respectively nothing is futureproof.....

however one can argue that AMD currently is a bit more futureproof for multiple reasons
1) SB will be coming a lot sooner then Bulldozer (SB is a few months away whereas bulldozer is 6-12months)
2) AMD has stated that bulldozer is slated for an AM3+ socket however, AM3 sockets will work on AM3+ boards meaning if you want u can get an AM3+ board when it comes out and still use ur old AM3 cpu until u save up for an AM3+ cpu....this is confirmed
some rumors do state however they will release an AM3 version of the Bulldozer

as for SB....it will be an 1155 socket that is not in any way compatible with the 1156 socket even though they are actually 100% identical LOL
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October 20, 2010 10:24:50 PM

Well, seems like AMD would be the best bang for the buck, except for the fact that intels i7 950 outdoes it everywhere. I heard some stuff about Thuban boards having bios/ OC problems and that support was bad on Thuban boards? However, I hear they do overclock well
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October 21, 2010 10:02:14 AM

Actually unless u have $$ for the i7 Gulftown peeps familiar with Linux equilavent of Windoze apps and dual booting the readily available and free Linux distros should go Thuban for the most part ^^
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T reviewed (for Linux developers) | What Digital Revolution?
Quote:
As anyone who does Linux development knows, going multithreaded is usually as simple as typing “make -jN”, where N is the number of parallel jobs that you want to execute while building your app (normally N = number of cores/processors + 1). At $200/$300 per processor, that would make the X6 a bargain-basement priced high-power workstation (Intel’s current six-core offering, the Core i7 9xx series, is actually faster than the X6 but also costs +$1000, out of the reach of mortals and students like myself).



By the way that mATX board and 1055T auto OCed 2.8-3.3 via TSeries V engine with value RAMs + stock cooler
http://translate.google.com.sg/translate?hl=en&sl=ko&u=...

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October 21, 2010 3:40:00 PM

Ok, cool. The only thing now is that looking at the board its missing USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s. But im sure theres Phenom boards that have those options. I personally have a Biostar in my current build and its been smooth sailing. How well do these overclock if anyone knows?
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October 21, 2010 4:10:52 PM

you want a board that has both, you have several choices. I still dislike Biostar (though Batchuka really likes them...every build he posts has a biostar mobo) I distrust Biostar's corner cutting, and have had 2 of their boards blow out.


The cheapest option is teh AS Rock 770 Extreme 3 (for USB3, SATA 3, and DDR3) at $75
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

they have an $89 version of the 870 which include 16x/8x PCIe dual ports:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

and it includes a combo with a 650W PSU, but not any cpus

In 6-core procesor, the 1055 overclocks nicely, but the best overclocker is the 1075.
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October 22, 2010 2:35:29 AM

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The second board seems awesome, I also like this board too...


ASUS M4A89GTD-PRO

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] &SID=194a3


opinions??


i have that exact board and its amazing! if u can afford it its great
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October 22, 2010 7:16:04 AM

Yea i can def. afford it on an AMD platform since im saving so much on mobo and processor. Only thing I saw with it now is that its very limited on memory standards... 1300 is ok speed to me. It says it can handle 2000 mhz memory... does that mean you can overclock a 1300 to reach that speed or that it will be compatible with 2000mhz memory if you change some bios settings to compensate?
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October 22, 2010 12:52:06 PM

the (O.C.) on motherboards means it won't automatically detect those RAM speeds (it'll underclock them to 1600 or 1333) but you can manually enter the settings and it will work properly.
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October 26, 2010 6:45:50 PM

so will the mobo use the additional speed of the ram or will it just be "compatible" with that clock ram? Because I dont want to spring for the fastest memory if its not going to yield any gains.
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October 26, 2010 8:22:15 PM

it will use it, it just won't autodetect it
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October 26, 2010 9:06:05 PM

so if I can afford the 2000 mHz go with it instead?
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October 27, 2010 1:27:13 AM

n. the 2000 MHz won't see much benefit for the price.
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October 27, 2010 4:25:35 AM

so, last thing in mind is that gskill ripjaws that was suggested at the beginning was great, but looks like some people had trouble fitting it in with their cpu fan/heatsink. I plan to OC so im going to get a better cooler for the cpu and I cant have that being a problem. Any good substitutes for the gskill around same performance/price range without the silly heatsink? :lol: 
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October 27, 2010 11:47:57 AM

try Mushkin. they have a DDR3-1600 with a heatsink, but it's not as tall
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October 27, 2010 7:34:59 PM

ocz ram is *** btw u dont need 8gb just get 4gb

also certain fans wont let ram fit if you use slots 1/3 just use slots 2/4 (which is what i did) do accomodate my Hyper 212+
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October 28, 2010 3:58:35 AM

I was just looking at it because it came bundled with the processor I want the 1090T black edition, but i guess ill just buy the ram separate.
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October 28, 2010 4:52:26 AM

Also, what are the thoughts on an HD 5870 or HD 5850 vs a gtx 470.. I see the ATI cards seems to have better power handling and run cooler and have a small advantage over the Fermi Nvidias.

Final Q on mobo

MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


thougts??
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November 7, 2010 1:41:55 AM

"Also, what are the thoughts on an HD 5870 or HD 5850 vs a gtx 470.. I see the ATI cards seems to have better power handling and run cooler and have a small advantage over the Fermi Nvidias."


anyone??
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November 7, 2010 10:13:38 PM



in that case im set on my build, just missing a Hard drive that I will buy separate the spinpoint F3 1TB...
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November 15, 2010 9:20:31 PM

bought everything and will be building tomorrow


CORSAIR HX Series CMPSU-750HX 750W ATX12V 2.3 / EPS12V 2.91 SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS SILVER Certified Modular Active ...
Item #: N82E16817139010

CORSAIR XMS3 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 Desktop Memory Model CMX8GX3M2A1333C9
Item #: N82E16820145315

EVGA 012-P3-1470-AR GeForce GTX 470 (Fermi) 1280MB 320-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
Item #: N82E16814130550

ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3 AM3 AMD 890GX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard
Item #: N82E16813131631

AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz Socket AM3 125W Six-Core Desktop Processor HDT90ZFBGRBOX
Item #: N82E16819103849

1 x COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus Intel Core i5 & Intel Core i7 compatible RR-B10-212P-G1 120mm "heatpipe direct contact" Long life sleeve CPU Cooler

1 x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive

1 x Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound - OEM

1 x COOLER MASTER RC-692-KKN2 CM690 II Advanced Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case

1 x Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM


1249.02 total after shipping and taxes (grr)

will be updating after boot up
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November 18, 2010 1:21:02 PM

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Hello. I am using the DDR3 XMS3 8gb 1333 (CMX8GX3M2A1333C9) on an ASUS M4A89GTD PRO/USB3. The system has the mem set on SPD as 1066 MHZ and at 8-8-8-20 latency. Memtest was run on the sticks individually (using USB flash drive) and did not have any errors. When both sticks are installed, memtest hangs at random passes and system becomes unresponsive, forcing a reset. Also the system will sometimes not boot at all when i set the memory speed manually as 1333 9-9-9-24 1.5v. My mobo has a memory led that stays lit when it refuses to boot. I hold the memOK button to solve "compatibility issues" even though ASUS states this is compatible ram with the board I got. If it even boots the windows 7 install CD hangs when loading files and then if I reboot the PC it wont POST and the memory LED comes on, so I use the memOK button and it defaults the mem to default 1066 with 8-8-8-24 latency. Any tips/help would be appreciated, I really need to figure this out. Thanks.
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