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October 21, 2010 3:59:19 PM

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Soon

BUDGET RANGE: 1000ish a little more or a little less doesnt matter much

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:Gaming, more Gaming, Small amounts of video editing, surfing the internet, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse,speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com doesn't matter
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US WI
PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel I-5 760 with Nvidia 460, but as always I'm open

OVERCLOCKING:I plan too OC somewhat soon, Will be my first time

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes SLI, soon

MONITOR RESOLUTION: (1920x1080) resolution, looking at Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23"W Monitor, hopefully Rev001

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:I will be getting a monitor also. That is not to be included in the price. But i would like to see some suggestions here on Monitor. I plan on upgrading to SLI I would say within about a year. I would like it to last for some time. Im replacing an Old Dell Dimension 8300 That I have had for 6+ years. At the end of the comps life I'm not expecting much, just being able to play games on med to low graphics.




CPU-
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115067

MotherBoard-
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131621



PSU-
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Hard Drive-
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GSU-
EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130568



Case-
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066


Mem-
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231277


OS-
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116758


DVD-
HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...


I would like to get opinion, reviews, suggestions, ect. Any help provided would be much appreciated. This will be my first build so I hoping ever thing is going to work.
Thanks in Advance

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October 21, 2010 4:05:26 PM

Drop the WD Caviar, get the Samsung Spinpoint F3, anyone will agree

Also, might wanna consider i5-750 instead of 760 IF you can get it for cheaper since 750 can OC anyway but yeah no biggie

You CAN live with a PSU a lot less than 750 but a 750 isn't a huge issue, just wanted to point it out in you're into saving money

The rest looks good :) 
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October 21, 2010 10:59:30 PM

Reaper2794-

Is the i5-750 better then the 760, I thought the 760 was the exact same chip except is was factory OC just a touch more. So is there anything different besides that, $15 at the $200 range is that hard to swallow. I can be swayed either way, I'm not against the 750, I was reading the forums and a lot of the opinions was for $15 go for the 760.
Thanks for pointing out the F3 I had it in my build for a while then changed it to WD, but I had forgotten how much of a price difference there was.
Also any options or opinions for a monitor, its so hard to find good info, most of it is vague?
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October 22, 2010 12:24:47 AM

+1 for Reaper on the HDD.

As for the 750 vs 760, I'd personally spend the extra $15-20 for the higher Turbo and the +1 more Multi for the 760. Also consider swapping the board to the ASUS Sabertooth and save a bunch of money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
$130 after MIR. You do give up USB3,SATAIII but it's up to you to decide if the extra $ is worth it for those eatures.

Anyways, as far as LCDs goes, it really depends on what you do. But for $320, that Dell LCD is a really good choice, esp. due to it using IPS instead of the cr@ppy TN.
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October 22, 2010 4:59:16 AM

Shadow70379-
I looked at the Sabertooth MB and the price is great and it sounds like a good MB,but I read some of the reviews and they talk about the Mb being really big and tight in a mid-tower. Will that be a problem, and they also talk alot about different ram problems, I understood most of what they were saying, but the MB is my weakest component knowledge? So anymore insight into that MB would be a huge help
Also if I go with out the USB3 and SataIII, (as of right now I have no need for them) but would i be able to get a card specific for that purpose that I can add onto the MB down the road? If you have any other info I would be very appreciative. I am very worried overall about this purchase, Its my first build so I'm very hesitant about everything.
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October 22, 2010 1:27:03 PM

^ The MB you had on the OP is by no means a slouch. It is NOT weak. I just recommended the Sabertooth so you can save some $$.

As far as case goes, it should be fine with an Antec 300, however if you are really concerned about the space, a HAF 912 will work fine with that board. Or you can spend quite a bit more and get a bigger case like a HAF 932.

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Also if I go with out the USB3 and SataIII, (as of right now I have no need for them) but would i be able to get a card specific for that purpose that I can add onto the MB down the road?

Yes.
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October 22, 2010 2:14:11 PM

mezen said:
Reaper2794-

Is the i5-750 better then the 760, I thought the 760 was the exact same chip except is was factory OC just a touch more. So is there anything different besides that, $15 at the $200 range is that hard to swallow. I can be swayed either way, I'm not against the 750, I was reading the forums and a lot of the opinions was for $15 go for the 760.
Thanks for pointing out the F3 I had it in my build for a while then changed it to WD, but I had forgotten how much of a price difference there was.
Also any options or opinions for a monitor, its so hard to find good info, most of it is vague?


Do NOT pay $15 more for the 760, you can OC the 750 easily if you want even with the stock HSF

Definitely get the Spinpoint, no problem there

Also, the info is kind of vague unfortunately, I'm not sure where people find the amount of platters and all that but it's a good HDD needless to say

Let me know if you need anything else
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October 22, 2010 2:55:10 PM

Shadow703793

If I was too go with the HAF 912, should I get any extra fans for the case, It says it comes with one 120mm fan, If so, are there some fans recommended over others, size, power hook ups, ect. I took a quick glance at them, and I do plan on looking more in depth at them.
Also when I tried to go and look up the sabertooth mb's qualified vendor list for memory, I wasn't able to load the page fore some reason. Does the G.skill mem i have work with the MB?
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October 22, 2010 4:29:36 PM

Bro I see no reason in settling with a plain HAF 912 when you can get the NZXT Lexa S... It comes with 3 x 120mm fans (one w/Blue LED on side) and a 1 x 140mm fan as well. Plus room for an additional 140/120mm fan.

Rubber grommets for water cooling and cable management.

Bottom PSU mount.

Only $63 with shipping included.

Magnetic bay cover

Dust filters all over

Anti-vibration feet for PSU

See through window on the side to see your components, and much much more. GREAT product
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October 22, 2010 4:53:07 PM

reaper2794 said:
Bro I see no reason in settling with a plain HAF 912 when you can get the NZXT Lexa S... It comes with 3 x 120mm fans (one w/Blue LED on side) and a 1 x 140mm fan as well. Plus room for an additional 140/120mm fan.

Rubber grommets for water cooling and cable management.

Bottom PSU mount.

Only $63 with shipping included.

Magnetic bay cover

Dust filters all over

Anti-vibration feet for PSU

See through window on the side to see your components, and much much more. GREAT product




Thats a really nice looking case, but my worries would be that its too narrow its only 7.72 inchs wide, vs the HAF is about 1.5 inch wider, the only reason I worry about width is the Sabertooth Mb seems to be a wide MB according too the reviews. Thx for the quick replies
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October 22, 2010 4:59:54 PM

Well you can always get a smaller mobo or ask people here if it'll fit. I really think that case is amazing but it's all up to you, there's a video review on it by 3DGAMEMAN on YouTube, very detailed and helpful
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October 22, 2010 5:07:03 PM

Im always open to suggestions, Thats why i made this post, I felt i was making a purchase with out the proper info. I will watch the video after i get back, Got a couple things to get done before I spend the rest of the day at the comp =P
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October 22, 2010 5:08:06 PM

Sure thing bro, it really is a beautiful case and I hope it'll fit your needs, I'm sick of seeing HAF this HAF that, yeah ok they come with features but they don't look nice at all. Things CAN and SHOULD be able to look and perform well
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October 22, 2010 9:27:52 PM

Cases are mostly personal preferences. Let's leave it at that. Personally, I hate how the from of that NZXT looks and the odd side window shape. I really don't like most of the cases on the market personally. Going complete scratch built case for my next rig.
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October 23, 2010 1:05:43 AM

OK so this is what my revised list is looking like atm


Cpu- I'm still looking at the i5-760 Reaper you didn't give enough convincing to change my mind yet.
Gpu- EVGA 460 No one really contested that one
PSU-corsiar 750 watt
MB- Sabertooth I did a bit of research on it, and I like the product and the price, always open for other choices but as I said before I dont know much about the MB
HDD- spinppoint F3
Mem- G.skill
Case- Gonna try the NZXT LEXA S LEXS I watched the Youtube review and it beat the Newegg review for the Haf imo.
DVD-Not set on this one, but I didnt want to buy the cheapest one and have to send it back because it failed to work. If there is a better one that is priced somewhat good let me know
HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer

And I think im gonna go for the Dell monitor I had in my original post, Hopefully it will go back on sale


So take a look at my new list and let me know what you think, if there is anything that still could use some fine tuning, Im all ears.


Thanks again

haha one other thing the 1 and 2 egg reviews are to funny for the NZXT
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October 23, 2010 1:09:42 AM

You can get the 760, you're not making a huge mistake or anything. Some may prefer saving 15 bucks, its just clocked higher, you can easily do that yourself with the stock HSF, you're basically paying 15 extra to let Intel OC your CPU like .2 GHz...
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October 23, 2010 2:02:59 AM

^ No, but it does have a higher Multiplier which should help you use lower BCLK to reach the same speed. It may also allow you to reach a bit more of a Max OC.

As far as GPU goes, the GTX460 is a fine card and with the Sabertooth you can SLI down the road.

As far as case goes, pick which ever one you like. It's a personal preference.
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October 23, 2010 2:29:42 AM

Yeah, Im just saying unless ur super into the details of OCing and all, 15 bucks aint worth your money :) 
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October 26, 2010 8:15:21 PM

So I ordered my system, but now I doing more research and it brings a couple more questions. First one being do I need an aftermarket CPU cooler if im not OC'ing yet. And Do I need an aftermarket cpu compound like Artic Silver compound?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
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October 26, 2010 8:26:07 PM

No, you can easily OC to like ~ 3 GHz with the stock HSF, but if you wanna go past 3 GHz then yeah you want an aftermarket cooler
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October 26, 2010 8:36:50 PM

Is that Arctic silver worth getting, it seems like overkill? The CPU should be coming with its own compound right?
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October 26, 2010 8:44:14 PM

^ The TIM will only make about 3-4C difference on average.

As for the CPU, the CPU does not come with TIM. HOWEVER, the stock heatsink has TIM applied to it. Most after market heatsinks also come with their own thermal paste either pre applied ot in a tube/bottle.
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October 26, 2010 9:02:41 PM

So I can wait to buy an aftermarket cooler until I decide to OC and I dont have to worry about the Thermal Paste? Am I understanding it right? I was reading on how to build a PC and they had both the paste and aftermarket Cooler so I was not sure if i was supposed to get them. But from what you guys are saying. Neither is needed to build it "stock"?
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October 26, 2010 9:09:45 PM

Yeah don't worry, you'll be fine if you're not OCing, even a little OC and you'll be fine. If you wanna OC past ~2.85, then get an aftermarket cooler :) 
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October 26, 2010 9:12:31 PM

Thanks Guys for all the info and help, I ordered my computer yesterday so it should be here by next week. You guys were a lot of help and made my decision a lot easier about buying the right parts.
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October 26, 2010 9:15:34 PM

Of course mezen, you can email me at anytime, Id love to hear any questions you may have

and if you post a video or anything let me know!
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October 27, 2010 12:21:47 AM

mezen said:
So I can wait to buy an aftermarket cooler until I decide to OC and I dont have to worry about the Thermal Paste? Am I understanding it right? I was reading on how to build a PC and they had both the paste and aftermarket Cooler so I was not sure if i was supposed to get them. But from what you guys are saying. Neither is needed to build it "stock"?

Yes. You will be fine but consider this:
If you plan to OC soon (read: a few weeks) then you may want to get a heatsink now and not have to worry about having to take out the board to install the new heatsink. Pretty much all the good heatsinks comes with a bolt in kit and you will need to remove the board to install it. I haven't used that case, but if it has a punch out for CPU back plate access you will not need to remove the board.

Anyways:
If this is the first time here me out on these tips:

1. RTFM! Seriously. Manufacturs provide this for you. The Gigabyte/ASUS manuals tells you pretty much everything you need to know about assembling the PC.

2. Take ESD precautions. Ground your self to the case first. If you are really worried about this, use an ESD wrist band. These can be found at RadioShack,etc. for about $3-5.

3. Double check all connections.

4. Take your time. As you build PCs you will get better at it. My first built took 2 hours. I can now do it in under 15 minutes in most cases. About 1-1.5 hours with water cooling.
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October 27, 2010 12:22:51 AM

reaper2794 said:
Of course mezen, you can email me at ******* anytime, Id love to hear any questions you may have

and if you post a video or anything let me know!

Do not post Email address on public forum. You WILL get spammed. I have reported this to a mod so they can remove this. Use PM if you wish to share this kind of info.
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October 27, 2010 12:36:20 AM

Alright my bad
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October 27, 2010 12:36:27 AM

I removed your email , as theres spambots running everywhere on the internetz
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October 27, 2010 12:41:07 AM

Thank you jaydee
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October 27, 2010 1:45:54 AM

JAYDEEJOHN said:
I removed your email , as theres spambots running everywhere on the internetz

Yup. This actually happened to me a long while back (when I was just a n00b).
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October 27, 2010 4:33:12 AM

Shadow If I was to get a heatsink, how would I go about finding if it will fit in the Case and what one too buy? I read some post on a couple different ones and a lot of people said they didn't fit in there cases ect.
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October 27, 2010 4:34:18 AM

You'd have to see how wide the case is looking at the specs on Newegg, see how tall the heatsink unit is, make sure you consider the mobo taking up some space, and you want some more space left over
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October 27, 2010 3:35:47 PM

^ Yup. Once you know the size, you can narrow down the heatsink. Currently, most people use the CoolerMaster Hyper 212 due to good price vs performance. This should fit that NZXT case, but again, I don't own that case so I can't be 100% sure on this.
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October 27, 2010 3:39:39 PM

I just made a thread and it will fit no problemo :D 
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November 6, 2010 2:45:58 AM

Best answer selected by mezen.
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