Last look before I buy

[mezen]

APPROXIMATE PURCHASE DATE: Soon

BUDGET RANGE: 1000ish a little more or a little less doesnt matter much

SYSTEM USAGE FROM MOST TO LEAST IMPORTANT:Gaming, more Gaming, Small amounts of video editing, surfing the internet, watching movies

PARTS NOT REQUIRED: keyboard, mouse,speakers

PREFERRED WEBSITE(S) FOR PARTS: newegg.com doesn't matter
COUNTRY OF ORIGIN: US WI
PARTS PREFERENCES: Intel I-5 760 with Nvidia 460, but as always I'm open

OVERCLOCKING:I plan too OC somewhat soon, Will be my first time

SLI OR CROSSFIRE: Yes SLI, soon

MONITOR RESOLUTION: (1920x1080) resolution, looking at Dell UltraSharp U2311H 23"W Monitor, hopefully Rev001

ADDITIONAL COMMENTS:I will be getting a monitor also. That is not to be included in the price. But i would like to see some suggestions here on Monitor. I plan on upgrading to SLI I would say within about a year. I would like it to last for some time. Im replacing an Old Dell Dimension 8300 That I have had for 6+ years. At the end of the comps life I'm not expecting much, just being able to play games on med to low graphics.




CPU-
Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield 2.8GHz 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1156 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80605I5760
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115067

MotherBoard-
ASUS P7P55D-E Pro LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX Intel Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131621



PSU-
CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power Supply
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

Hard Drive-
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152185

GSU-
EVGA 01G-P3-1373-AR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) Superclocked EE 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814130568



Case-
Antec Three Hundred Illusion Black Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129066


Mem-
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-4GBRL
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820231277


OS-
Microsoft Windows 7 Professional 64-bit 1-Pack for System Builders - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6832116758


DVD-
HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827140042


I would like to get opinion, reviews, suggestions, ect. Any help provided would be much appreciated. This will be my first build so I hoping ever thing is going to work.
Thanks in Advance

 

[reaper2794]

Drop the WD Caviar, get the Samsung Spinpoint F3, anyone will agree

Also, might wanna consider i5-750 instead of 760 IF you can get it for cheaper since 750 can OC anyway but yeah no biggie

You CAN live with a PSU a lot less than 750 but a 750 isn't a huge issue, just wanted to point it out in you're into saving money

The rest looks good

 

[mezen]

Reaper2794-

Is the i5-750 better then the 760, I thought the 760 was the exact same chip except is was factory OC just a touch more. So is there anything different besides that, $15 at the $200 range is that hard to swallow. I can be swayed either way, I'm not against the 750, I was reading the forums and a lot of the opinions was for $15 go for the 760.
Thanks for pointing out the F3 I had it in my build for a while then changed it to WD, but I had forgotten how much of a price difference there was.
Also any options or opinions for a monitor, its so hard to find good info, most of it is vague?

 

[Shadow703793]

+1 for Reaper on the HDD.

As for the 750 vs 760, I'd personally spend the extra $15-20 for the higher Turbo and the +1 more Multi for the 760. Also consider swapping the board to the ASUS Sabertooth and save a bunch of money: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131601&cm_re=asus_sabertooth-_-13-131-601-_-Product
$130 after MIR. You do give up USB3,SATAIII but it's up to you to decide if the extra $ is worth it for those eatures.

Anyways, as far as LCDs goes, it really depends on what you do. But for $320, that Dell LCD is a really good choice, esp. due to it using IPS instead of the cr@ppy TN.

 

[mezen]

Shadow70379-
I looked at the Sabertooth MB and the price is great and it sounds like a good MB,but I read some of the reviews and they talk about the Mb being really big and tight in a mid-tower. Will that be a problem, and they also talk alot about different ram problems, I understood most of what they were saying, but the MB is my weakest component knowledge? So anymore insight into that MB would be a huge help
Also if I go with out the USB3 and SataIII, (as of right now I have no need for them) but would i be able to get a card specific for that purpose that I can add onto the MB down the road? If you have any other info I would be very appreciative. I am very worried overall about this purchase, Its my first build so I'm very hesitant about everything.

 

[Shadow703793]

^ The MB you had on the OP is by no means a slouch. It is NOT weak. I just recommended the Sabertooth so you can save some $$.

As far as case goes, it should be fine with an Antec 300, however if you are really concerned about the space, a HAF 912 will work fine with that board. Or you can spend quite a bit more and get a bigger case like a HAF 932.

Also if I go with out the USB3 and SataIII, (as of right now I have no need for them) but would i be able to get a card specific for that purpose that I can add onto the MB down the road?

Yes.

 

[batuchka]

Across several reviews the HD 6550/6870 are reinventing that $180-240 price point with revolutionary performance at this price point and with enhanced CF scaling:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/3987/amds-radeon-6870-6850-renewing-competition-in-the-midrange-market/6

or if u insist on exhausting $1k

 

[reaper2794]

Reaper2794-

Is the i5-750 better then the 760, I thought the 760 was the exact same chip except is was factory OC just a touch more. So is there anything different besides that, $15 at the $200 range is that hard to swallow. I can be swayed either way, I'm not against the 750, I was reading the forums and a lot of the opinions was for $15 go for the 760.
Thanks for pointing out the F3 I had it in my build for a while then changed it to WD, but I had forgotten how much of a price difference there was.
Also any options or opinions for a monitor, its so hard to find good info, most of it is vague?

Do NOT pay $15 more for the 760, you can OC the 750 easily if you want even with the stock HSF

Definitely get the Spinpoint, no problem there

Also, the info is kind of vague unfortunately, I'm not sure where people find the amount of platters and all that but it's a good HDD needless to say

Let me know if you need anything else

 

[mezen]

Shadow703793

If I was too go with the HAF 912, should I get any extra fans for the case, It says it comes with one 120mm fan, If so, are there some fans recommended over others, size, power hook ups, ect. I took a quick glance at them, and I do plan on looking more in depth at them.
Also when I tried to go and look up the sabertooth mb's qualified vendor list for memory, I wasn't able to load the page fore some reason. Does the G.skill mem i have work with the MB?

 

[reaper2794]

Bro I see no reason in settling with a plain HAF 912 when you can get the NZXT Lexa S... It comes with 3 x 120mm fans (one w/Blue LED on side) and a 1 x 140mm fan as well. Plus room for an additional 140/120mm fan.

Rubber grommets for water cooling and cable management.

Bottom PSU mount.

Only $63 with shipping included.

Magnetic bay cover

Dust filters all over

Anti-vibration feet for PSU

See through window on the side to see your components, and much much more. GREAT product

 

[mezen]

Bro I see no reason in settling with a plain HAF 912 when you can get the NZXT Lexa S... It comes with 3 x 120mm fans (one w/Blue LED on side) and a 1 x 140mm fan as well. Plus room for an additional 140/120mm fan.

Rubber grommets for water cooling and cable management.

Bottom PSU mount.

Only $63 with shipping included.

Magnetic bay cover

Dust filters all over

Anti-vibration feet for PSU

See through window on the side to see your components, and much much more. GREAT product

Thats a really nice looking case, but my worries would be that its too narrow its only 7.72 inchs wide, vs the HAF is about 1.5 inch wider, the only reason I worry about width is the Sabertooth Mb seems to be a wide MB according too the reviews. Thx for the quick replies

 

[reaper2794]

Well you can always get a smaller mobo or ask people here if it'll fit. I really think that case is amazing but it's all up to you, there's a video review on it by 3DGAMEMAN on YouTube, very detailed and helpful

 

[mezen]

Im always open to suggestions, Thats why i made this post, I felt i was making a purchase with out the proper info. I will watch the video after i get back, Got a couple things to get done before I spend the rest of the day at the comp =P

 

[reaper2794]

Sure thing bro, it really is a beautiful case and I hope it'll fit your needs, I'm sick of seeing HAF this HAF that, yeah ok they come with features but they don't look nice at all. Things CAN and SHOULD be able to look and perform well

 

[Shadow703793]

Cases are mostly personal preferences. Let's leave it at that. Personally, I hate how the from of that NZXT looks and the odd side window shape. I really don't like most of the cases on the market personally. Going complete scratch built case for my next rig.

 

[mezen]

OK so this is what my revised list is looking like atm


Cpu- I'm still looking at the i5-760 Reaper you didn't give enough convincing to change my mind yet.
Gpu- EVGA 460 No one really contested that one
PSU-corsiar 750 watt
MB- Sabertooth I did a bit of research on it, and I like the product and the price, always open for other choices but as I said before I dont know much about the MB
HDD- spinppoint F3
Mem- G.skill
Case- Gonna try the NZXT LEXA S LEXS I watched the Youtube review and it beat the Newegg review for the Haf imo.
DVD-Not set on this one, but I didnt want to buy the cheapest one and have to send it back because it failed to work. If there is a better one that is priced somewhat good let me know
HP Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA 24X Multiformat DVD Writer

And I think im gonna go for the Dell monitor I had in my original post, Hopefully it will go back on sale


So take a look at my new list and let me know what you think, if there is anything that still could use some fine tuning, Im all ears.


Thanks again

haha one other thing the 1 and 2 egg reviews are to funny for the NZXT

 

[reaper2794]

You can get the 760, you're not making a huge mistake or anything. Some may prefer saving 15 bucks, its just clocked higher, you can easily do that yourself with the stock HSF, you're basically paying 15 extra to let Intel OC your CPU like .2 GHz...

 

[Shadow703793]

^ No, but it does have a higher Multiplier which should help you use lower BCLK to reach the same speed. It may also allow you to reach a bit more of a Max OC.

As far as GPU goes, the GTX460 is a fine card and with the Sabertooth you can SLI down the road.

As far as case goes, pick which ever one you like. It's a personal preference.

 

[reaper2794]

Yeah, Im just saying unless ur super into the details of OCing and all, 15 bucks aint worth your money

 

[mezen]

So I ordered my system, but now I doing more research and it brings a couple more questions. First one being do I need an aftermarket CPU cooler if im not OC'ing yet. And Do I need an aftermarket cpu compound like Artic Silver compound?http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835100007&cm_re=artic_silver-_-35-100-007-_-Product

 

[reaper2794]

No, you can easily OC to like ~ 3 GHz with the stock HSF, but if you wanna go past 3 GHz then yeah you want an aftermarket cooler

 

[mezen]

Is that Arctic silver worth getting, it seems like overkill? The CPU should be coming with its own compound right?

 

[Shadow703793]

^ The TIM will only make about 3-4C difference on average.

As for the CPU, the CPU does not come with TIM. HOWEVER, the stock heatsink has TIM applied to it. Most after market heatsinks also come with their own thermal paste either pre applied ot in a tube/bottle.

 

[mezen]

So I can wait to buy an aftermarket cooler until I decide to OC and I dont have to worry about the Thermal Paste? Am I understanding it right? I was reading on how to build a PC and they had both the paste and aftermarket Cooler so I was not sure if i was supposed to get them. But from what you guys are saying. Neither is needed to build it "stock"?

 

[reaper2794]

Yeah don't worry, you'll be fine if you're not OCing, even a little OC and you'll be fine. If you wanna OC past ~2.85, then get an aftermarket cooler