Sign in with
Sign up | Sign in
Your question

840 Pro vs Corsair Neutron 256

Last response: in Storage
Share
January 31, 2013 1:05:48 AM

Hello, everyone.

I am torn between 2 SSD's.
The Corsair Neutron and the 840 Pro.

The reason for this is that though the 840 Pro is faster, I have seen a few reviews showing that it takes a pretty major hit from both capacity and aging, and the Neutron ends up as the faster drive over the full lifespan. If anyone has any experience with both these drives or any knowledge on this facet of things, I would love a recommendation. Right now Newegg has both priced at the same price point ($209.99) for 256 gigs. Thanks!
a c 283 G Storage
January 31, 2013 1:54:08 AM

Not sure what you mean by the 840 taking a pretty major hit from both capacity and aging. Regarding capacity, do you mean useable space as in a 256 GB ssd having 238.5 GB usable capacity?

I maintain the ssd database listed in the sticky at the very top of this forum section. Here is the link:

http://www.johnnylucky.org/data-storage/ssd-database.ht...

Scroll down to the Corsair and Samsung sections and follow the links to the technical reviews of the models you are interested in.
m
0
l
January 31, 2013 1:57:41 AM

What I mean is based on the reviews I've seen, an older 840 Pro runs slower than the Neutron, and by capacity, the speed difference between a nearly empty drive and a drive that's 90-95% full.
m
0
l
Related resources
January 31, 2013 2:03:37 AM

I say 840. Samsung has a bit of a better rep for reliability.
m
0
l
January 31, 2013 2:12:47 AM

And the reviews I saw that gave the information I'm basing my inability to decide on were from HardOCP, showing the speed of the drive both new and after heavy use, E.G. "steady state performance".
m
0
l
a b G Storage
January 31, 2013 2:13:50 AM

The Samsung 840 Pro holds up well against the Corsair Neutron GTX, so it should be clearly superior to the standard Corsair Neutron.
m
0
l
a b G Storage
January 31, 2013 2:21:02 AM

rpgmaster1532 said:
And the reviews I saw that gave the information I'm basing my inability to decide on were from HardOCP, showing the speed of the drive both new and after heavy use, E.G. "steady state performance".

Techpowerup did show the Neutron GTX winning out against the 840 Pro in steady-state performance, but it doesn't seem much of a problem as long as you don't have it running nearly full most of the time.

http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Samsung/840_Pro_SSD_...
m
0
l
a c 283 G Storage
January 31, 2013 4:12:55 AM

I am confused. In the original post the Corsair Neutron is mentioned. The link to Newegg is also for the Corsair Neutron. The Corsair Neutron is a basic mainstream ssd. That is not the same as the Corsair Neutron GTX Those are two different models with different specifications.

I took a look at the Hard OCP review and the TechPowerUp review that were mentioned. Neither review or comparison inlcudes the Corsair Neutron. Both include the Neutron GTX.

What do you do with your computer? Do you play games or do you do some sort of professional, scientific, or financial work?



m
0
l
January 31, 2013 10:05:46 AM

My other components include a GTX 670, 32 GB DDR3 RAM, a Maximus V Gene, and a I5-3570K.

If I end up getting a job where I can use it, that'll be an option, but primary use is planned to be a gaming desktop, and I'm hoping to not have to do much in the way of parts exchange over the next few years.

The following review is the one for the Neutron and NOT the GTX:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/09/04/corsair_neutr...
I understand it doesn't have the Samsung drive in it, but you can take a chart with the Samsung drive and overlay it, or just take the approximate data points from it. For example, I noticed that on Steady Write the Neutron's path follows the OCZ Vector's almost exactly.

Here is the Samsung review for reference:
http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/12/10/samsung_840_p...

Both links link directly to HardOCP's Steady State charts for the drive.
m
0
l
January 31, 2013 10:13:17 AM

as for matching the Vector, it does...except for a QD of 1, rather... and I'm not sure where most of a gaming system's load is going to hit for QD. I'm planning on keeping capacity about 200 used/56 free, just to leave a little headroom. If all of a gaming system runs at QD 1 then the 840 is clearly the superior drive, if it runs at 3 or 4 then the Neutron is.
m
0
l
January 31, 2013 10:13:58 AM

That is also for 4K Write, which I have been led to understand is one of the biggest factors in overall system "snappiness" and speed.
m
0
l
a c 353 G Storage
January 31, 2013 11:41:30 AM

Niether drive has been out long enough for USER evaluations on long term performance.

Based on a review at anandtech, Recommended "Free space" has been bumped up to 20->25% vs the previous 10->15%.

I no longer go by benchmarks as Most uper end SDs if placd in a computer you would not be able to see any real day-2-day useage performance difference. I rely more on Reliabilty/least User problms. In this area The Marvel and samsung controller based SSDs seem better than SF22xx based SSDs. If Benchark is based on ATTO, I totally ignore, do look at AS SSD performance, but as I stated it is still toward the bottom of my buy decision.

My SSs (SATA IIIs)
1 - 256 Gig 840 Pro (laptop Win 8)
Samsung 830s - 2 128 gigs and 1 256 gig SSDs
Crucial M4's 2 128 gigs and one 256 gig SSDs
OCZ - 2 120 Gig Agillity IIIs (I know - blew it there, Just use them on SATA II prots.
m
0
l
a b G Storage
January 31, 2013 3:04:56 PM

rpgmaster1532 said:
as for matching the Vector, it does...except for a QD of 1, rather... and I'm not sure where most of a gaming system's load is going to hit for QD. I'm planning on keeping capacity about 200 used/56 free, just to leave a little headroom. If all of a gaming system runs at QD 1 then the 840 is clearly the superior drive, if it runs at 3 or 4 then the Neutron is.

QD will be pretty low in most cases.

Anyway, it's only the writes that slow down on the 840 Pro in steady state, and it starts out with a very large lead over the Neutron in that department. Of the two, I'd definitely recommend the 840 Pro.
m
0
l
January 31, 2013 10:56:12 PM

Oh, and I also found the 830 for $190... if that's a reasonable option
m
0
l
!