AMD Phenom II X4 970 BE vs Intel Core i5 760

Hi guys. I've been looking info about this for ages. Which one is better FOR GAMING? I'm mainly going to be gaming and browsing internet and stuff. No video encoding or photoshop design or anything. And I read that if you're not gonna overclock the intel i5, then the amd chip is a better buy because it's cheaper. I have no problem with overclocking as long as there's a simple app to help me do it. I will install fans to keep it cool. The price of them is almost the same. So, which is better???

Hello, and welcome to THG.

For gaming, the i5, but if you are on a budget, the Phenom.

To overclock, you don't need a program to do it. All one needs to do is enter the BIOS and change the configurations. You can get hep in the 'Overclocking section' of the Forum.

Not now. Wait until SB LGA 2011 or Bulldozer. I would not get SB 1155 right now. Too soon.

No Bulldozer is the new miroarchitecture that is not released yet. You are thinking of the Phenom II 1090t CPU. I am thinking of a future release chip by AMD called Zambezi.

Intel has just release the first part of their new microarchitecture: Sandy Bridge.

But I bet the Sandy Bridge costs quite a lot, doesnt it? My rig supposed to be under 800 euros. ;]

You're right, I'm sorry ;]

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

$204.99 for a i5 760

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product

$209.99 for a i5 2500 (the 2500K is $224.99)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131687

$139.99 for a P8P97 LE. Most decent P55 mobos cost about $130 ofr standard ATX size, not the smaller ones.

Overall the Sandy Bridge one isn't that much more. I would say maybe $50 bucks and overall it will perform better than the i5 760 setup.

So youre saying I should get the i5 2000k? Or wait for the bulldozer? What I want is the processor to be a similar price but better performance and the motherboard would be compatible with future upgrades. Is that gonna be possible?

its all about your budget, the phenom is alot cheaper and if you get the BE its far better and easier to overclock. but intel do the best cpu's pretty much all round which unfortunately comes at a price.

on a side note don't use programs to overclock, use bios its simple enough and most OC'ing apps are terrible , AMD overdrive crashes my computer instantly if i try to use it to overclock.

OK, well I just looked at the site I'm ordering from and they have 3 new CPUs.

Intel Core i5-2400

Intel Core i5-2500

Intel Core i5-2500K


So as I understand, the i5-2500K is the best one, right? I also chose NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB to go with it. As I understand, thats the best GPU in that price range, right? But I'm not sure which motherboard to pick.

Gigabyte GA-H67M-UD2H

ASUS P8P67-M

Any suggestions?

Ok, got it. Thanks for the help ;]

I'm getting the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 768MB. The result in benchmarks is better than the 5770. If you know a card that is of very similar price and better performance, then please tell me ;]
And I'm kind of a noob when it comes to PSU. I honestly dont know what PSU to get. If it helps I can write here the rig that im buying (I changed it a bit) so you can recommend me one ;] Thanks for all your help guys

Ok thanks ;]

intel i5..

this is my unit I finished just earlier this month, I won't be looking at SB for sometime, maybe third generation or fourth.
I will be taking a closer look at AMD/Bulldozer becuase my phenom ii x4 unit is AM2+ is older of course than my i5 unit:

Intel Core i5-760 Lynnfield (2.8GHz @ 3.2)
EVGA P55 Micro SLI Mainboard 121-LF-E652-KR
COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 +
8GB kit (2x4GB) CORSAIR Vengeance DDR3 1600
BFG Technologies BFG GeForce 9800 GT 512MB 256-bit GDDR3 (phys-X)
EVGA 01G-P3-1380-KR GeForce GTX 460 (Fermi) SSC+ 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16
OCZ Technology 60 GB Vertex 2 Series SATA II
SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 500GB 7200 RPM
SAMSUNG BLU-RAY COMBO 8X BLACK BD ROM/DVD WRITER
COOLER MASTER Elite 430 RC-430-KWN1 - 3 x 120mm fans
3.5in card reader / NZXT Sentry-2 5.25in Touch Screen fan controller
Rosewill RV2-600 600-Watt SLI
Windows 7 Ult. x64

not the best and I know it's not but it's mine and I can kick some ass..
you should play UT with a phys-X set-up,,, OMG.

My budget is 800 max and I live in Luxembourg so im buying from mifcom.de

You need the operating system too? Monitor? Here's one with the OS and no monitor.

CPU (Prozessor): AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE, 4x 3.2GHz
Mainboard: Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3, AMD 870 (USB3.0/SATA3, NEU!)
Grafikkarte: AMD Radeon HD 6850 1024MB - Sapphire
Arbeitsspeicher: 4GB Corsair XMS3 DDR3-1600 CL9
SSD: Nein
2. SSD: Nein
Festplatte: 500GB Samsung Spinpoint F3 16MB Cache, SATA2
2 Festplatte: Nein
Laufwerk: Nein
2 Laufwerk: Nein
Netzteil: 550W BeQuiet! System Power
Gehäuse: Coolermaster CM Storm Scout
Kartenleser: Nein
TV Karte: Nein
Soundkarte: HD-Audio Onboard
Wireless LAN: Nein
Gaming Netzwerkkarte: Nein
Videoschnittkarte: Nein
Weitere PCI-Karten: Nein
HDD Wechselrahmen: Nein
CPU-Kühler: Orig. Box-Kühler
Silent-Gehäuselüfter: Nein
Lüftersteuerung: Nein / Im Gehäuse integriert (falls vorhanden)
Festplattendämmung: Nein
Betriebssystem: Windows 7 Home Premium, 64 Bit, DE (inkl. Installation!)
Antivirus, Firewall, Security: Nein
Office: Nein
Tastatur / Desktop: Nein
Maus: Nein
Monitor: Nein
Service: Servicepaket Standard

799,00 €

http://www.mifcom.de/product/429/5 [...] tml?config

LE forgot the DVD-RW, add one and get a cheaper case.

Get the 2500k or even the 2600k. I prefer the 2500k because it is 100 USD cheaper and it can OC to the same level.

Even my first gen i5 build can easily wiped out any high end AMD setups (especially when OCed) in most cases.

I wish I could get it but its a bit over my budget ;[

HD6950 will be bottle necked by PII-955. In addition, get i5-760 instead if you can't afford a "K" series Sandy Bridge as 760 OCed to at least 3.6GHz should perform better than 2400.

GTX560 will be released soon, so you may also consider i5-760+GTX560.

Listen andy5174, you should really learn some stuff about hardware before giving advices in here.

@rapolitas, if it's mainly for GAMING get a HD 6950 and whatever quad you want or can afford. Anything from the I7 980X to the Athlon II X4. Unless you have a small monitor and game at low resolutions and settings.

let's all try and play nice gents..

LOL.
I understand:
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/Product/203?vs=143

that HD5650 comment.....
give me a better card and look at the cpu benches..
I'm not picking sides or anything, the comment just made me think what if....
I'm not a fan of the i3 or the 1100T, I can do without both.
i5-760 or phenom ii x4 955 BE and then focus on the gfx card and GAME ON..
agree.?

No.

If you wish to go with Intel, you need to top this:

The reference HD6950 2GB has a dual BIOS, and enthusiasts are using it to raise the card to HD6870-like levels. Despite all the huffing and puffing in this thread, the PhII 955BE/HD6950 is the way to move forward if your focus is a gaming rig.

Please stop embarrassing yourself. An HD6950 'Power-tuned' to HD6970-like levels will slobber-knock any Intel processor with a GTX 460 in gaming.


edit: Here is an example from Anand ...




What resolution and games do you play?

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