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wow people still play eq 2 ? 
anyway 2 x gtx 470's in sli are said to outperform a single gtx 580 and will come in at around the same price as far as i know the 470's also support 3d and dx 11.
my first question would be do you plan on building this yourself ? if so have you built one before. jsut with you saying your a newb i'd hate to see you accidently fry all those parts due to improper installation ( i ruined the first cpu i fitted because i rushed into fitting it 
)
Doesn't sound like you are missing anything. And this rig will be overkill for everquest 2... It like driving a Ferrari 20 miles and hour in a school zone. But your setup sounds good for Crysis and Bad Company 2... You can max the settings on Everquest with a Pentium 4 and an old FX5500, LOL 
And for your first build... I can give you these tips! Do not rush anything. Always stay calm, even if something doesn't work right the first time. Read the manual carefully, and keep another PC online to ask questions here if something has you stuck. Rushing or not asking the proper question while building can be a game killer. You can fry something, or mess up the plugs on stuff.
Building PCs is not really that difficult, but cleanly laying out all the wiring, cooling and so on is an art form. Route all your cables carefully and tie off anything you don't need. Be extra careful when handling the CPU, don't touch the contacts or anything with bare fingers. And lastly, make sure the CPU cooler is firmly mounted and flush.
And everything else is simple enough, if you have ever upgraded a PC before, then plugging in hard drives and stuff shouldn't be a chore. Just always keep the cable management in mind, not only does it make the build look better, but it increases efficient cooling too! 
Message edited by 1965ohio on 01-17-2011 at 05:50:18 AM
as ohio says be calm and read up when building it. i learnt pretty much all i know about pc's and building them through goole and the hands on approach but when i naffed that cpu i learned not to rush it.
also one GTX 580 will out do one 470. but two 470's will beat the 580 and with nvidia control panel you can set game profiles up so you can tell it to not use sli while playing eq2 and its simple to do. and one 470 should be enough for eq2 most mmo's rely more on cpu than gpu as far as i know. also if you like a bit of overkill you can attach 3 monitors to two 470's 
as for your raid question. i've never used a raid config myself, ive never really seen the point in it personally just seems a bit overkill. so you will have to ask someone else about that one i'm afraid
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Ok, first thing I wanna say is THANKS EVERYBODY for your input..Ok on the PSU, do I not need a 1000w? Will this 850w do for this setup? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product
And now that someone's said that this is a overkill for eq2 Im having second thoughts on what I should get. I basically just wanna be able to play eq2 on highest settings without any problems. I know i want the lantec air lanboy case and I know I want the i7 2600k so I can overclock it. The other thing is I wanna be able to do is watch 3d movies on this rig. If I can make a setup cheaper but still be able to play eq2 on max and watch 3d movies please give me a setup The other thing Im not sure about is the cpu cooler.. The case has 5 120mm fans and I planned on addng 2 more on the top. Will I need a cpu cooler for the i7 being overclocked? If so, what mobo and what cpu cooler should I get for the i7 2600k cpu. Thanks for all you help guys.. btw my budget is $2000, so If I can make a rig for $1500 and spend the other $500 on a 3d monitor and new key/mice set that would be perfect But if I have to wait on the accesories for a month or so thats fine too. Oooh one thing I forgot to mention is..the rig I have now is a HP m9340f. I wanna take the TV tuner and whatever else I can out of it and put in my new rig to save money on parts. Thanks again everyone!!
P.S. Mobo I was thinking is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] -_-Product with getting 2 hd's do I need to buy raid?(not familiar with that at all) or does this mobo have that built in it?
i personally think raid is overkill but there are people out there who will swear by it. i haven't researched it enough to give a definate opinion but not going raid could save you a bit of money to use elsewere.
if you get it right a 2k computer could last you around 4 years. i buit my old machine for about £400-£500 around $800 considering most parts in the uk are dearer. and it's lasted me two years and still gives me good performance in games like bad company 2 ive only just recently started updating it. (got a new cpu, mobo and ram. just need a case, gpu and maybe a new psu now 
)
if you know how to bargain hunt and get it right and are not bothered about getting 2 billion FPS (the human eye can apprently only see around 30fps but this is widely debated and i can certainly tell the difference between a game at 30fps and a game a 60fps but over 60 i can't notice any difference) you will be fine
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ok well here it is...
Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6811129093
Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131695
CPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6819115070
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814125349
Ram: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820233144
PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6817207001
HD: 2x http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6822136544
BDVD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827136183
Fans: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835209011
There it is!!! With that said, will I need a seperate RAID for the HD's or will that mobo have the RAID built in it? Is everything I posted compatible with everything? The case comes with 5 120mm fans, and Im adding two more 120mm on top of the case. With my cpu being overclocked do I need a cpu cooler even though I have 7 fans? If so, can someone please recommend what cooler I should get that will work with my mobo and my cpu? Thanks
as far as i can see that's all compatible, i didn't even know XFX did psu's
don't go overboard on fans having to many can ruin your airflow and cause the adverse affect , if your oc'ing you will need a good cpu fan , if you have money to burn get a coolermaster v8 http://www.scan.co.uk/products/coo [...] lga1156%29
they look badass and are one of the best aircoolers you can get and not that expensive ,sorry for the uk site.
someone else will have to answer your raid question.
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Reply to kinth
Yes it does, I posted right as you did So the cpu cooler should be this.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835109030
and that is compatible with the mobo im getting and the i7 right? And my last question is everything that ive bought is compatible correct? sorry guys like I said Im new to this
actually dunno if that v8 supports your cpu os look into it before you buy it if you do
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| Noobz wrote : Yes it does, I posted right as you did |
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/ [...] 2_AM3.html
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835118074
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835608014
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oh it does nevermind can't seem to edit my posts
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| beanoslim wrote : ^+1 compared to others |
ahh ive never used one only know from the reviews iv.e read saying it was good but im guessing those reviews are rather old by now and there is far better out there . my mistake
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| Quote : I saw one in person the other day and its FREAKIN HUGE |
No doubt they are king coolers but just a rank colour IMO.
Others say swith the fans but then it makes it a very expensive cooler.
I just got the Ven X Black, with a couple of white led fans. 
Reply to beanoslim
| kinth wrote : ahh ive never used one only know from the reviews iv.e read saying it was good but im guessing those reviews are rather old by now and there is far better out there . my mistake |
Have a butch at this mate.
http://www.frostytech.com/top5heatsinks.cfm
Reply to beanoslim
| Noobz wrote : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6813131695 thats the mobo..so I can just buy a 120 mm blue led fan and put it on the CPU cooler and use the fan off the cooler and put it on my case..correct? |
Did you read my bit about the boards, have a look at this also, does the Antec case have front usb3 ports?
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1500/1/
Yes you can but I'd just get another blue Antec so they all match.
Just thinking as well that the Corsair has blue writing and will look better in your case than the XFX, see I know how picky you are so I thought I'd mention it.
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| PsychoSaysdie wrote : Have you considered going with a pair of 470's over a single 580? Pair of 470's will be cheaper and perform a hell of a lot better |
suggested this a few times. it's a great way to go.
as for eq 2 not using sli you can turn one off while you play eq2 using control panel preofiles and one 470 should be enough for eq2 and then leaves better performance for other newer games
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Ok you guys know better let me take a look at those 2 470's..which you said I can watch 3d movies on them
| Noobz wrote : Ok you guys know better let me take a look at those 2 470's..which you said I can watch 3d movies on them |
http://www.nvidia.com/object/produ [...] 70_us.html
" Total Immersion
Breakthrough the boundaries of your screen. Games, movies and photos enter a new dimension with NVIDIA® 3D Vision™ technology. Thrill seeker? Use two GeForce GTX 470 cards in NVIDIA® SLI® configuration to project across three displays with NVIDIA 3D Vision Surround1 technology. *Warning: May cause screen envy."
obviously its your choice and what ever you feel comfortable with. were just here to help and offer advice on what we think would be best for your money but in the end it is your money.
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MoBo - The Asus P8P67 WS Revolution is a good choice for the 580, I'd lean to x16 x 16 at 570's and above. For $30 over the deluxe .... that's 1.5% increase in system price . From a 470 on down, you wouldn't see more than a 2-3% increase in performance w/ x16 x16 over x8 x8.
CPU - Nuthin need be said, it's the best 1155 CPU and it's affordable.
GFX - With the Asus MoBo, I'd suggest an Asus GFX card, if nothing else, it will make that call to tech support easier when the MoBo tech tries to blame the GFX card vendor However, the Asus voltage tweak technology will give ya a boost on OC'ing. Consider the 570 which offers far more bang for the buck and ya can power two of them with an 850 watter.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6814121409
HD's - The WD Black, Spinpoint F3 or Seagate 7200.12 whichever is cheaper .... but in the 1 TB (500 GB / platter) size
Drop anything with the Rosewill name on it .... might as well buy Walmart brand.
PSU - The XFX Black Edition 850 ($110) or CP-850* would be my choice with twin 570's in that Lanboy case .... one now and add another come XMas time. Upgrade to a Corsair HX1000 or Antec CP-1000* if ya thinking of a 580 and another one pf those later on.
* CP-1000 and CP-850 require Antec compatible case (DF-85, 1200, P193, P183)
Save $17 and possibly some tech support issues with this Blue Ray reader $59)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6827135220
No need for a sound card w/ the quality of today's on board sound.
No need for RAID multile RAID capability on board.
A $2k build deserves a SSD ($195) Vertex 2 120GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6820227590
Guru3D got to 4.6 GHz w/ the stock cooler so no ya obviously don't **need** one. Cooler is better tho, and why not go higher .....
http://www.guru3d.com/article/asus [...] -review/10
If ya wanna evaluate coolers, benchmarkreviews.com has been keeping a running database for a number of years on cooler performance. Each quarter they test a dozen or so new ones and then compare the results to all the previous tests and re-rank all the coolers. Here's the Top Performers (1st tier)and "Highly Recommended" (2nd tier). I have underlined the top 3
Top Performers
* Prolimatech Megahalems (159mm)
* Thermalright Venomous-X RT (160mm)
* Scythe Mugen 2 SCMG-2100 (159mm)
* ProlimaTech Super Mega (159mm)
* Cogage Arrow (160mm)
* ProlimaTech Armageddon (160mm)
* Thermalright Ultra-120 eXtreme (161mm)
* Cogage TRUE Spirit (164mm)
* Xigmatek Balder SD1283 (160mm)
* SilenX Effizio EFZ-120HA4 (153mm)
* Titan FENRIR TTC-NK85TZ (156mm)
Highly Recommended
* Noctua NH-D14 (158mm)
* Zalman CNPS10X-Performa (152mm)
* Coolink Corator-DS Heatsink (155mm)
* CoolAge CA-X120TF Wind Tunnel (155mm)
* Tuniq Tower 120 Extreme (151mm)
* Thermolab BARAM (160mm)
* Xigmatek Thor's Hammer S126384 (160mm)
* Scythe Yasya SCYS-1000 Cooler (159mm)
* Noctua NH-U12P (158mm)
* Cooler Master V6 GT Heatsink (165mm)
* Thermaltake Contac-29 CLP0568 (160mm)
* Zalman CNPS10X-Quiet (160mm)
http://benchmarkreviews.com/index. [...] &Itemid=62
Beware of some sites that, for compatibility with older tests, are still using the LGA 775 CPUs in their test bench. The heat signature of 1366, 1156, 1155 is totally different and good performance on a 775 does not equate to good performance on the 1366/1155/1156 setups. In fact, just changing from a 920 to a 950 switched the top 3 rankings on benchmarkreviews test.
http://www.frostytech.com/testmethod_mk2.cfm
For a 1st time builder, I'd recommend the Megahalems for its easy install procedure, fool proof mounting and top notch performance..... On a price / performance basis the Mugen 2 well outshines the Hyper 212, the former champ in this category.
The 1st place TIM in benchmarkreviews 80 way test was Shin Etsu
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6835150080
Message edited by JackNaylorPE on 01-18-2011 at 02:04:00 AM
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i think weve all gone a bit mad and are confusing the hell out of the poor bugger. while we want to build the best machine we could it's all down to personal preference. and let's remember this machine is mainly for eq2 and not getting the best scores ever on tests. can we try and compile a definate list of parts we would all reccomend for the guy ?
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well if your sure you will be able to afford another 580 down the road the 580 would be the better option but , that's spending a grand on gpu's alone. if your not bothered about massive fps in newer games you would probably be fine with a 580. but for the the same amount of money you will get better performance from two 470's. getting another 580 down the road would prob be more futureproof though. im split ewual on the two tbh
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| Noobz wrote : what would I be using the ssd's for? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 63938&SID= |
when it comes to speed SSD harddrive's are awesome unfortunately they are still fairly new and rather expensive i can't wait till they come down in price
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