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January 19, 2011 8:17:48 PM

Hello,can a am2 socket processor be upgraded to am3 ? thanks

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January 19, 2011 8:25:44 PM

Depends what board you have
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January 19, 2011 8:34:09 PM

it is stock gateway FIC K2BC51 board
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January 19, 2011 8:37:06 PM

simon12 said:
Depends what board you have

it is stock gateway FIC K2BC51 board thanks
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a c 147 à CPUs
January 19, 2011 8:42:44 PM

Check the Gateway supported cpu listing webpage for your specific model. Its highly doubtful imo. Good luck.
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a c 103 à CPUs
January 19, 2011 8:51:15 PM

It looks like no
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January 19, 2011 9:07:45 PM

That would figure found a Athlon 250II x2 3.0 ghz for 30.00 bucks thanks so much
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January 20, 2011 3:08:03 AM

Most AM2 boards won't. I'd actually guess that NO OEM am2 boards would. Many AM2+ boards will. Not sure how many OEM AM2+ boards will take an AM3 CPU. Remember that the OEM wants you to buy a new machine, not upgrade the one you have.
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January 20, 2011 6:19:38 PM

4745454b said:
Most AM2 boards won't. I'd actually guess that NO OEM am2 boards would. Many AM2+ boards will. Not sure how many OEM AM2+ boards will take an AM3 CPU. Remember that the OEM wants you to buy a new machine, not upgrade the one you have.


thanks for your reply going to get a no mobo and go that route. again thanks for the reply.
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January 22, 2011 6:56:47 PM

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wait, what's your current processor in that board.?


Its got 64x24200 2.2
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January 22, 2011 7:16:49 PM

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there are better chips for that board.
you might have lesser expensive options to upgrade and possibly keep this unit longer if you wish..


I bought that 250 II x2 3.0 for 30.00 looking at mobos that will run it with my current ddr2 memory.
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January 22, 2011 10:29:02 PM

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ah, I see.
what is your intended usage for this unit.?

about the questions and statement earlier, some AM2 boards can take the athlon x2 7750 and 7850 BE...
they are the class of athlon chips in between the athlon 64x2 and then athlon ii x(2,3,4) named Kuma class.
I was thinking if you had gotten that one by mistake then you might be in luck after-all.

this might be outside the box but what if:
sell that chip you got since you only paid $30 for it your bound to make a profit right.?
just something to think about.
now you can always keep it and start out with it too.
100% positive that the motherboard you get will be cpu upgradeable so you can get to it later.
but when ready then at least look for an athlon ii x3 435 (2.9GHz) Rana (newegg.com $72).
that third core will make a difference since in honesty the athlon ii x2 chip isn't that strong. I have a few of them..

if your trying to game on a dual core cpu the athlon ii x2 is not it.
I do understand you got it for $30.
all I said above might be for nothing if this is not to be a gaming unit.
and if a simple internet box then the athlon is fine..
I'm just trying to shed some light and help you understand.


I do a little of both, the mobos I am looking at can use the better processors but allow me to use my ddr2 instead of having to upgrade it as well, thank you for your input I am sure I will have more questions as i choose a new mobo. thanks again
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January 23, 2011 12:59:36 AM

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no problem, I've been there.
so you are looking at or should I say you need to look for AM2+ motherboards.
now the question is what size and features in the motherboard are you wanting to have.? and price range.?
what RAM do you currently have that you want to carry over, what specs.?


I have 4gigs of pc4200 ddr2 ,xfx 9500 gt 512mb, 500watt ps looking to keep mobo under 100.00 got two in mind asus m4a785 m 75.00 this has ati gpu ,also looking at gigabyte ga-m68m-s2p 50.00 would thinkk I should either go ATI for asus on video card or go with gigabyte and keep nvidea. ????
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January 23, 2011 12:22:11 PM

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that RAM has to go.....
DDR2 800MHz 4GB(2x2GB) in dual channel mode is what you NEED.
9500GT is enough to get you started but not a card to keep.
that a damn good motherboard.....
the RAM will kill it's capabilities and performance..

maybe a combo deal for RAM and motherboard...!?
then you are going to want to upgrade that processor after that because it will then be the weak spot..


Looks like Ive got some more research to do thanks again.
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January 23, 2011 12:33:08 PM

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let me know what else I can do..


I will do that thank you
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January 23, 2011 2:22:11 PM

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not necessarily but I just had a flashback when you said that.
I went through the same type of thinking long ago..
I have an AM2+ board with nVidia chipset since I favor nVidia over ATi.
they are harder (real top-notch) to find but I can locate a couple options for you.
interested.?

how about a gigabyte GA-M68M-S2P the other board on my newegg wishlist?
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January 23, 2011 2:47:29 PM

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that's a decent board but the harder to find top-notch ones are the AM2+: ASUS M3N78-EM and M3N78-VM boards.
they have the 8300 and 8200 chipset respectively and the board option you found on newegg has the 7-series chipset.
it's older and the board doesn't have the abilities as the 8-series..

Found this on ebay 280617756625 could be a good deal?
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January 23, 2011 4:22:11 PM

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i was actually looking at that earlier.....
i was window shopping.
that motherboard IS special....
I have one and trying to get another now..
I'm actually bidding on one of them on eBay now..!


Is the processor any good as opposed to the athlon II 250 ihave?
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January 23, 2011 5:17:53 PM

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no, your athlon ii 250 is a better chip..
that's a good backup chip to have or starter chip when assembly of a unit with extra parts or something...
it's good to have backup hardware..
i keep an extra chip just in-case..


thanks I am gonna try to get that mobo combo off of ebay and take it from there ill get memory as well as an xtra cpu
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January 24, 2011 1:29:12 AM

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brattys - I just won that motherboard auction on eBay for the M3N78-EM.
I have been wanting another one and have been looking for months now.
I even had a dude looking to get me one in England because they were all gone in N America.. $200+

eBay - $47 shipped from Canada manufacturer refurbished...
sniff sniff, I smell another build coming on...:D 

cool gotta love it when a plan works out!!
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January 24, 2011 6:34:48 PM

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they have another one that ends in the morning like around 8 or 9pm.
bid is currently like $18 right now with $13 for shipping.
try and look for it...
270691091206


the M3N78-VM board with the cpu and 2GB of 800 memory is up to 100.00 you think its worth going after? or wait for bare board
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January 24, 2011 6:43:00 PM

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200567569820

for that VM board up over $100.
I wouldn't go past $120, remember is has 2GB of RAM as well.


if not for the 2gb of memory I would let it go. thanks
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January 24, 2011 6:54:03 PM

Gonna keep hunting good luck with your next build, thanks again
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January 25, 2011 8:03:38 PM

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no problem, good-luck..

I managed to get the M3N78-vw for 29.77 plus shipping and 4gigs of A data 800mhx for 40.00 plus shipping just playing the waiting game now thanks again for your help
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January 25, 2011 9:42:16 PM

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that's a decent board but the harder to find top-notch ones are the AM2+: ASUS M3N78-EM and M3N78-VM boards.
they have the 8300 and 8200 chipset respectively and the board option you found on newegg has the 7-series chipset.
it's older and the board doesn't have the abilities as the 8-series..

After I submitted I realized I made a typo I did get the M3N78-VM and the Abit memory 4 gigs 800mhz for 40.00
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January 26, 2011 1:22:25 AM

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take the money you saved and upgrade the graphics card..
get back on eBay and get a nVidia GTS250, GTX260 (I'm looking at one now) or even a 9800GT for around $75 no more..

I'll just keep plugging away I'm on a budget build got to work with my "accountant" love her to death but on a budget, small steps. thanks for the help
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January 31, 2011 6:51:09 PM

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I know how that goes....
you need a 'sugar momma' on the side....;)

Hows your build coming along? Parts came in today, wondering about drivers for new mobo and cpu will it automatically find them or do I need to download them and install myself. I am not sure what drivers I will need for it?
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January 31, 2011 7:55:30 PM

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you should be good to go, just install and boot to see what happens.
you might have to go into BIOS and make changes..

my board comes in this evening or tomorrow, spent all the money I had ordering parts. got the gfx card coming weeks end,
ended up getting another MSI N250GTS TWIN FROZR shipped for $75..

Sounds good, hope it all gets there timely, thanks again
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January 31, 2011 10:34:14 PM

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so including the motherboard, list out the complete specs of the new build..

I would call it an upgrade mobo Asus MN378-VM, 4gig 800mhz adata ram, Athlon II x2 250 3.0ghz xfx GF 9500gt 512mb ddr3, 250gb sata II 7200rpm hD ,500watt ps,hp dual layer lightscribe combo drive XP pro OS, LG 22 wide monitor
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January 31, 2011 10:37:14 PM

It started out as gateway gt5228
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January 31, 2011 11:38:07 PM

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nice..

AMD Athlon II X3 445 Rana (3.1GHz)
ASUS M3N78-VM AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8200 HDMI mATX
AMD Phenom II X4 955 BE OEM Copper Heatsink/Fan
4GB (2x2GB) Apacer DDR2 800MHz CL5 - AP2048DLUE800
MSI N250GTS TWIN FROZR 1G OC DDR3/HDMI
WD Raptor 160GB Raptor 10K WD1600ADFD SATA Hard Drive
80 GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.10 SATA Hard Drive
LITE ON IHAS122-04 black SATA 22x
3.5 inch USB 2.0 Internal Card Reader
COOLER MASTER Centurion 541 RC-541-SKN1 MicroATX w/ 120mm + 2 x 80mm fans
Thermaltake TR2 W0070RUC 430W ATX12V V2.2
2 (set) - Dell 1703FP monitors
Windows 7 Ult. x64

AMD Phenom II X4 940 Black Edition (3.0GHz/3.4GHz) Deneb
ASUS M3N78-EM AM2+/AM2 NVIDIA GeForce 8300 HDMI mATX
Scythe SCSK-1100 100mm Shuriken Rev. B - AS5 thermal compound
4GB kit (2x2GB) OCZ Gold DDR2 1066MHz memory module 5-6-6@2.10V
MSI N450GTS CYCLONE 1GD5/OC GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5
WD740 VelociRAPTOR 74GB 10K RPM
Seagate Barracuda 7200.12 250GB SATA 3.0Gb/s
SAMSUNG BLU-RAY COMBO 8X BLACK BD ROM/DVD WRITER
SilverStone Sugo SG03 SST-SG03B (black) mesh grill - 2 x 120mm fan + cross-flow fan
OCZ ModXStream Pro 500W ATX12V V2.2
2 (set) - LG E2050T-SN Glossy Black 20in 5ms LED Backlight LCD
Windows 7 Ult. x64

very nice, my next upgrade will be a better cpu and a 64 bit os to be decided at a later date
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January 31, 2011 11:46:04 PM

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upgrade your video card first...

Ah yes thanks for the reminder
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February 3, 2011 4:26:30 PM

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update.?

haven't touched it yet wifes got a bunch of stuff going with pc waiting for a lull before the games begin, gonna pick up a newer dvd burner today to go with the hp i just installed, gonna get rid of ribbon connector and have all sata. also gonna start graphic card hunt any suggestions on the affordable cards?
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February 3, 2011 5:01:29 PM

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depends on your actual budget and since it seems that you do not mind eBay then possibilities look good...

my budget varies, when I find a good deal it always better with my "accountant" overall if its reasonable price I can you usually make it happen as she uses the pc a good amount ,to put a price, about 100.00 or less would be awesome.
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February 14, 2011 10:31:27 PM

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I thought you might like it....!
no problem.

Hows it going, going to attempt mobo swap any advice, any drivers you think I may need board came with nothing? thanks
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February 14, 2011 10:40:16 PM

Windows will load most of the main drivers you need to get going. Go to the motherboards website and download any of the drivers they have for the chipset, sound and whatever other options the board might have. If you are using Windows 7 mostly everything should work right away, but I would still update the drivers anyway.
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February 14, 2011 10:50:17 PM

saaiello said:
Windows will load most of the main drivers you need to get going. Go to the motherboards website and download any of the drivers they have for the chipset, sound and whatever other options the board might have. If you are using Windows 7 mostly everything should work right away, but I would still update the drivers anyway.

Thank you appreciate the advice.
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February 14, 2011 11:05:08 PM

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^+1
agreed to that..

Good to here from you downloading as I type, thanks
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February 15, 2011 1:11:24 AM

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going well I see...

install was a bust, mobo wont fit case different layout gateway said it is a micro atx asus said mobo micro atx but will not fit, also need p.supply with more sata power connections for dvd drives and hd, emachine tower could work, back to the drawing board..
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February 15, 2011 10:32:06 AM

I had an old Gateway case that I had to drill new holes and move all the motherboard stands to fit a new board into the tray it was a real pain in the ass. I also had to take a saw to the back of the case to fit the back-plate on it was seriously the worst but it can be done if you have a drill and a recip saw. As for the power supply you can get adapters for that if you need the extra cables.
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February 15, 2011 10:33:40 AM

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WHAT..!?
that sux bro...
with everyone saying how the mATX case will fit, different lay-out, I thought only Dell did that.?
I can see the the SATA issue, but not the fitting into case.

Its funny the new Dells are standard ATX now I belive at least the Studio 540 is I know because my parent have one.
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February 15, 2011 3:33:56 PM

I get the feeling it will fit, and with no offense to the OP its an issue he isn't familiar with.
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February 15, 2011 6:10:57 PM

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WHAT..!?
that sux bro...
with everyone saying how the mATX case will fit, different lay-out, I thought only Dell did that.?
I can see the the SATA issue, but not the fitting into case.

the pci slots are not oriented right ,ports dont line up with i/o shield I read on the tower or board somewhere it had btx on it seams to be a mirror image.
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February 15, 2011 11:40:09 PM

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you must have gotten a strange model unit....
oh well.
time for a kick ass mATX case, I have plenty of ideas for you..

got a extra case fullsize atx board fits has 2 cooling fans plus cpu fan gotta configure my card reader hope it will fit somehow fiddlin and diddlin as I type
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February 16, 2011 1:24:37 AM

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good-luck..

thanks gonna need it, ideas wont hurt, delaying the game to ponder ideas tired of screwing around with stuff ,just want it to work.
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February 16, 2011 9:58:53 PM

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let me know if I can help..

Thanks I will do that
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