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Help me Pick a Graphics Card! 6850 vs 6870???

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October 25, 2010 8:26:11 PM

Approximate Purchase Date: This week (however I will wait if recommended to wait for 6900 series)


Budget Range: 175-275$ (+/- a few dollars)


System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming, Movies, Entertainment purposes


Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg.ca or ncix.com or tigerdirect.ca


Country of Origin: Canada


Parts Preferences: Any suggestions for Brand or brands to avoid? (like should i stay away from certain brands?)


SLI or Crossfire: Yes (eventually)


Monitor Resolution: 1680x1050 but would like to be able to upgrade t 1920x1080 one day

So which GPU should i get the 6850 or 6870? I obviously want the best performance to price ratio... I play SC2/CSS i will be playing some newer games eventually like CODMF2, Black Ops etc. I dont need MAX settings but I would like the card to last and not be obsolete to fast...

I do not need MAX settings but i do like highish settings

So should i get a 6850 or 6870? Or should i wait for the 6900 series and see how they affect prices? Also what brands should i get?

btw i live near a ncix.com store so i prefer ncix
October 25, 2010 8:40:02 PM

Hi Jasonp, Firstly, You didn't give your full system specs, neither did you mention the games you wanna play.

IMO, if you're looking at SCII, WOW etc. there's no real need to drop the $60 more (especially at 1680 X 1080). Your PSU permitting, you can get a second 6850 once you do decide to go for a full HD display.

However if Xfire is not your thing or your PSU wont comply, might as well drop the extra moolah for the 6870 especially if you're looking at Crysis, Metro etc.

Disclosure: I must admit I've not even seen a 6xxx series card with my own two eyes as yet. So my suggestions are purely based on reviews from tech sites on the net :pt1cable: 
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October 26, 2010 1:19:40 AM

ohh sorry thought i posted them

AMD PHenom II X4 965 BE (currently stock clock but will be Ocing)
Asus m4a89gtd 890GX
Hyper 212+
XFX Black Edition 850w PSU
Haf 922 case w/ additional 200mm side intake
2x2gb Patriot Sector 5 1600mhz RAM

games are like SC2/WoW/Call of Duty (black ops) might try Crysis if its any good!!!!!

Crossfire i dont mind crossfiring just dont wanna do it out of the gate!

and yah i know at 1680x1050 a 6850 is more then enough but what if i upgrade to a full HD monitor? i like to keep my options open
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October 26, 2010 6:00:39 AM

Your specs are pretty high end (with good quality components to boot). A 6850 might just look a tad out of place in a highish end gaming system like this one. So if you're planning on a 1080p display anyways, the least this system demands is a 6870 or a GTX 460.

A word of caution though - If you want to play Crysis, you're prolly better off with NVidia, 'coz traditionally, Crysis has performed abysmally with ATI GPUs - AnandTech Benchmark Results - Crysis: Warhead Frames per Second
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October 26, 2010 11:29:22 AM

Or if you wanna make a smart choice, dont waste your time on Crysis and get a Radeon card :) 
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October 26, 2010 2:39:01 PM

so 6870 then? not 6850? what brands

i notice Power Colour a lot cheaper are they crap?
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October 26, 2010 3:24:20 PM

ive personally had awesome buys HIS cards ive had a 4770, 5850, 5870 they all performed great and work great even now
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October 26, 2010 9:18:53 PM

PowerColor, Palit, Zotac, HIS, are all plenty good but Sapphire, EVGA, XFX, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, stand out. I personally prefer Sapphire for ATI (now AMD) and EVGA for NVidia. More expensive than the rest, but prolly worth the extra 10-20 bucks.

But the problem in asking for brand recommendations on forums is that every manufacturer have people on their own payrolls on these forums who wax eloquent 'bout the virtues of their respective employers (not to mention the fanboys). It's prolly better to do a bit of research yourself without falling for such marketing strategies.
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October 26, 2010 9:44:26 PM

calguyhunk said:
PowerColor, Palit, Zotac, HIS, are all plenty good but Sapphire, EVGA, XFX, Asus, Gigabyte, MSI, stand out. I personally prefer Sapphire for ATI (now AMD) and EVGA for NVidia. More expensive than the rest, but prolly worth the extra 10-20 bucks.

But the problem in asking for brand recommendations on forums is that every manufacturer have people on their own payrolls on these forums who wax eloquent 'bout the virtues of their respective employers (not to mention the fanboys). It's prolly better to do a bit of research yourself without falling for such marketing strategies.



very true do your own research and see what card and manufacturer impresses you the most and go with that one
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October 27, 2010 7:38:45 PM

well TBH
i know XFX and Asus are solid companies as is MSI and Gigabite.....its the other brands that im a bit more worried about such as PowerColor and HIS and the smaller companies

neways vote 6870 or 6850! buying friday
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October 27, 2010 8:52:22 PM

:ange:  :ange:  :ange:  ....... ok, 6870 it is :D  :D  :D  :bounce: 
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October 27, 2010 8:54:35 PM

haha im kinda leaning that way myself i got 2 days to decide!
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October 27, 2010 11:09:08 PM

use ncix or newegg.ca and suggest a card THANKS!
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October 28, 2010 2:27:12 AM

one last bump before bed
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October 28, 2010 4:17:21 AM

6850 xfire if you plan on doing it and your psu can support it if not then 6870. cf6850 benchmarks show it blisteringly fast
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October 28, 2010 5:07:37 AM

With your budget I don't see why you shouldn't get a 6870, but at your current resolution, you don't really need anything higher than a 5770.

So get the 6870 and upgrade your monitor next. Or a 6850 and get the monitor sooner with the $60 you save, and later another 6850 for CF.

Buy from ncix if you're from canada. Save money in shipping. I hear you have insane shipping costs ordering from newegg or tigerdirect.
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October 28, 2010 12:34:16 PM

see im still undecided between 6850 and others say 6870

lots been saying 6850 is better cuz u can OC it to basically 6870 speeds (and then its only missing some shaders) the XFX 6850 is actually not a reference card so it has better cooling and its performance rocks
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October 28, 2010 3:05:11 PM

any last minute suggestions?
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October 28, 2010 4:54:48 PM

gonna be playing Black Ops or the new Medal of Honor (cant decide which)

if that helps you suggest a card!
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October 28, 2010 7:26:21 PM

Sure you can OC the 6850 to (stock) 6870 speeds, but did you also forget you can also OC the 6870?

If you have the money, get the better card and a new monitor.
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October 28, 2010 7:30:58 PM

6870 doesnt OC well at all did u read the reviews?

6870 OCs to about 950MHZ max and u can get a 6850 to just below that if not even that much
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October 28, 2010 8:21:32 PM

Then there you go, you have your answer. Now get a better monitor already!
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October 29, 2010 1:29:15 PM

gonna grab a xfx 6850 from ncix for 199.99 on promo!
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October 29, 2010 2:08:24 PM

The 6850 seems plenty good from the benchmarks but for just 40 bucks extra, the 6870 seems the better option.

Also, the similarly priced GTX 460 1GB comes out ahead in 'most all games.
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November 8, 2010 11:49:19 AM

Best answer selected by jasonp12.
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November 10, 2010 6:00:20 PM

So which did you go with? Got it yet?
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November 10, 2010 6:20:53 PM

enforcer84 said:
So which did you go with? Got it yet?


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jasonp12 said:
gonna grab a xfx 6850 from ncix for 199.99 on promo!

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