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[Solved] Dell Optiplex GX620 upgrades

Forum CPU & Components : Power Supplies, Cases & Mods [Solved] Dell Optiplex GX620 upgrades

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Hello,
I have a Dell Optiplex GX620 and I want to install a Radeon 4670 1GB graphics card. My concern is this... The 4670 graphics card claims to require a minimum of a 400 watt power supply, with a 550 watt power supply strongly recommended. My Dell Optiplex GX620 has a 305 watt power supply unit. Can and How do i upgrade this PC's power supply unit? Or Can I simply pop in the 4670 graphics card using my existing 305 watt power supply without having problems?

Reply to daveed12vas
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usually the Dell PSUs are underrated.

does the PSU have PCIe power connector?

There is no way to guaranty that it will work but it is definitive worth a try.

Reply to Emerald

The powersurply needs to be replaced. You will need a powersurply that is either a pce-e 2x6pin or 2x8 pin and atleast 500 wats to acturally power up the video card. If you try to use the powersurply that is included in the setup from dell you risk of damageing the hardware and causeing problems in the future.

Reply to ace700

The stock Dell Opti 620 power supply won't have a PCIe power connector. You will need to replace it. Is the Dell 620 in question a tower or a desktop form factor?

Reply to mavroxur

According to Dell's specs the Mini Tower will provide 75 watts to the x16 slot. All other chassis formats provide 25 watts only. If you're really worried try a Radeon 5570 which is essentially a 40nm version of the 4670 with similar performance but less power draw.

Reply to UniqueName
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you can run that card now on your Dell 305-watt power supply, I DO HAVE A HD4670 RUNNING ON A DELL WITH 305-WATT POWER SUPPLY RIGHT NOW.!!!
in that unit I also have an 89-watt processor as well and full unit specs including optical, two HDD's, wireless and tv-tuner card..
you do not need a power supply upgrade.
take the money and use it for another type of upgrade.


Message edited by malmental on 01-20-2011 at 07:30:44 PM
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Reply to malmental

and also to you knuckleheads -
the HD4670 or even the HD5670 doesn't require ANY power plugs adapters, just install card in proper slot and boot unit.

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Reply to malmental

^+1

Most of the lower power cards don't have 6 pin connectors, like my HD5550. Try the card for a while. Make sure you don't have any system crashes, and check the power supply is too hot or not. If you have any sudden crashes or the system is too hot, then change the power supply.

Reply to 1965ohio

^
that will not even happen, if the power supply goes it will go because of TIME and not the HD4670..

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Reply to malmental

Dear Emerald, Ace, Mavroxur, and Unique, Thank you so much for responding. I am a computer novice, so forgive my ignorance. The Dell Optiplex GX620 I own is a mini tower computer style. I have two PCI card slots, one PCI Express X16 card slot, and one PCI Express X1 card slot. I am considering installing a new PSU of 500 watts or greater. The problem is finding a new PSU to fit my tower, with the correct motherboard connectors, and it needs to draw air from the back or underside and blow air out the back of the tower because my mini tower has the PSU located at the top of the case. -All of your compatible PSU ideas would be welcomed-
I guess i could just return the Radeon 4670 1GB card and get another graphics card that meets my current system requirements. I should have perhaps done that from the start. My mistake.
However, I would love it if someone would recommend a replacement PSU with higher wattage that fits my Dell Optiplex GX620. My current PSU measures: L=5.5in. X W=6.0in. X H=4.0in.
Again, thank you for your assistance and advice. Here are some Dell links describing my computer:
http://support.dell.com/support/ed [...] #wp1133451
http://support.dell.com/support/ed [...] #wp1051997

Reply to daveed12vas

DUDE.
DID YOU NOT READ WHAT I SAID.?!
WTF.?!

your psu is AXT standard psu so any aftermarket ATX supply will work.

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Reply to malmental

Dude, we are trying to tell you that the Radeon 4670 is only like 59W. If will work in your system. I don't know where you are reading it needs more power.

Check Anandtech total system power with that card... http://www.anandtech.com/show/2616/9

The recommendations of the card and real power usage are 2 different things.

I really doubt you will have any issues.

Reply to 1965ohio

^+100 malmental :bounce:


Message edited by 1965ohio on 01-20-2011 at 08:00:35 PM
Reply to 1965ohio

If you want to install a HD6870 or GTX470... then hell yeah, you need a new PSU.

Reply to 1965ohio

Dear Malmental and 1965Ohio, WOW! Thank you all so much. That is great news! I was about to order a new PSU or return the 4670 card. If you truly think my Optiplex can handle the card with my existing power supply, then I'm good to go.
But Mr. Malmental, everyone else says i need a new PSU. Are you really running all that hardware off a 305 watt PSU? It sounds too good to be true when everyone else says i NEED the upgrade. But I do believe you, and I'm going ahead and I am going to install the new card into my PCI x16 slot unless I hear otherwise. Thank you all!

Reply to daveed12vas

have you seen my signature...
I am a runaway DELL BORG.! I worked there for almost 8 years bro...
I think that I would know.

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Reply to malmental

I will have to agree with malmental on this. The only reason to get a new PSU is if it dies for some reason. The video card top limit is only about 59 watts. Even if your CPU is 95W, the board and drives are only looking to add another 35 watts to it. So say 60+100+40... that's like 200. And this is all over estimates. Also, most Dell power supplies list the continuous, not the max. They usually are underrated.


Message edited by 1965ohio on 01-20-2011 at 08:15:37 PM
Reply to 1965ohio

Sorry Mr. Malmental and Mr. Ohio, I am not exactly computer savvy and I am humble before you. You two have given me awesome assistance and saved me about $100.00
Great advice, thanks again. I will install the new graphics card and get back to you guys.

Reply to daveed12vas

I'll be waiting for the good results..
enjoy your upgrade..

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Reply to malmental

I'll be back after I install this baby. I opened the box, this card is SWEET! It's a Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 PCIE 2.0 1GB card. It's all sparkly and pretty. But first I have to go outside and shovel away the foot of snow. I will hopefully return with my success story or my system meltdown story. Or perhaps something more sinister will have occurred; maybe Richard Branson and Richard Dolan will fly over my house in their black triangle and HAARP ray my butt, leaving me with no memory of anything except for the Antmen...

Reply to daveed12vas

It'll work. Don't worry. And even if your PSU was seriously stressed, the worst that will happen in a dead PSU, everything else will be fine. The only indication of a stressed CPU is if your computer bluescreens randomly or put your hand around the PSU and see if it has hot air coming off. Under load it will be a little warm anyways. You won't fry your motherboard or cause a portable nuclear core meltdown. Worst case is that you need a new PSU. So you are right back where you started when you started this thread. LOL! :D

Reply to 1965ohio

SNOW, I remember that stuff.... LOL
I'm in South Florida now, born in OH and raised in upper NY..

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Reply to malmental

Well, I'm back and I successfully installed the new graphics card. One thing I need help with though...all of my desktop program icons are huge and web page screen fonts are huge. I can't see all my programs in my Start Button or see whats all on a web page. Can someone help me shrink to fit my fonts and stuff, please.

Reply to daveed12vas

restart the computer, windows needs to reboot after it is installed to finish installing the drivers.
after reboot they should be back to normal and if not then just go to display settings..
what OS are you running, I presumed windows 7..?

 

if it comes down to it go to the manufacturer web-site and download the latest drivers for your OS..


Message edited by malmental on 01-20-2011 at 11:39:00 PM
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Reply to malmental

Oh, okay. A quick restart set everything straight. Thank you all for your help throughout this graphics card installation. I couldn't have done it without all of your guidance. Thanks again. Now, what can I do with this GPU...find an online shooter game and go nuts or what?
PS If you guys at Toms wish to call this thread resolved you may. I am one satisfied newborn PC-gearhead. Thanks for everybody's help. Now, as they say in my country: It's Miller Time.

Reply to daveed12vas

Up to you to clicked solved. Just watch your PC and make sure it doesn't bluescreen or run hotter than usual. If its cool and stable, no need to a new PSU! :D

Better click on malmental's post... click solved. LOL :sol:


Message edited by 1965ohio on 01-20-2011 at 11:59:13 PM
Reply to 1965ohio

depending on what the rest of the specs are you can do some damage gaming...
I do not know the exacts of the HD4670 limits but it performs just slight of my 9800GT so I imagine it can do decent on medium settings..

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Reply to malmental

thanx for the shot out OH..

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Reply to malmental

Someone might have to walk me through any end-thread procedures here, I'm new to this stuff. But if I need to fill out a survey that indicates your massive helpfulness I will.
I will be checking my unit often for extra heat, I have experienced no blue screen activity. And you saved me the costs of a new power supply unit too. This Dell Optiplex GX620 has been good to me, and this Sapphire Radeon HD 4670 1GB GPU was as easy as "plug and play" to install. I am a happy camper.


Message edited by daveed12vas on 01-21-2011 at 12:30:09 AM
Reply to daveed12vas

Look at the answer you liked the most, and you should see a button that says choose best answer. I'd say give this one to malmental all the way! :sol:


Message edited by 1965ohio on 01-21-2011 at 12:31:23 AM
Reply to 1965ohio

enjoy it my Dell brethren......:D

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Reply to malmental

Why just yesterday my PC had to pause while the Black-Ops game web page transferred information and loaded data to stream its content...with this new Radeon 4760 GPU the web page just instantly loads and runs its course. I am very pleased so far. As I assume this new boost in speed is accountable to the card itself. Is this the case?


Message edited by daveed12vas on 01-21-2011 at 12:53:53 AM
Reply to daveed12vas

yes, the card helps...

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Reply to malmental

Well, thanks again Malmental, So tell me this...will this new graphics card help me stream live television news broadcasts and such or is the GPU more just a gaming graphics accelerator? I use my Dell PC to stream local news in the mornings with coffee before work and some times the data transfer and page load-up is slow or simply stops; will this GPU help in that area too? If not, what recommendations do you have to remedy this? -I already use the 4GB maximum of RAM memory-


Message edited by daveed12vas on 01-21-2011 at 01:57:36 AM
Reply to daveed12vas

it will be beneficial for all the above.
how is your RAM configured, 4GB(2x2GB) in dual channel mode I hope..

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Reply to malmental

My PC's motherboard has four ram memory slots which hold four 1GB memory sticks, so I have 4GB ram memory total. Which I'm told is all this Dell Optiplex GX620 can run. -according to the Dell manual and Crucial.com- I bought the RAM memory in kits. -two 2x1GB kits-
Tell me something about these TV tuner cards, what the heck are they? They sound cool as...they sound cool. What are they? Why do I want one? Which one do I want for my PC?

Reply to daveed12vas

well since it's working (is it in dual channel mode) I guess it's cool.
better RAM configuration is 4GB(2x2GB) DDR2 800MHz CL5 in the correct slots for dual channel.
so if running DDR2 667MHz I would eventually upgrade when $ is right.
the difference from 667 to 800 to me was a noticeable difference.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6815276002

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Reply to malmental

Oh, okay. I understand. I wish I knew that before I bought four 1 GB sticks. I'll look into two 2GB sticks and run them in the proper dual channels on my motherboard as soon as possible. Excellent tip Malmental, I had no clue.

I have an old big screen tv. I want to use my tv as my computer monitor. Is this possible with my old tv? Its a GE VideoPlus GemStar. The tv has one yellow video input, two sets of red and white audio-in & audio-out inputs, one S-video port. and one coaxial cable port.
With this criteria, can you aid me in finding the correct wires and adapters necessary to connect my Dell PC to my regular TV? Thanks.

Reply to daveed12vas

it's possible.
I'll look it up in the morning, it's 10PM EST - US and I have to run....
reply back so this will show in my notification area.

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Reply to malmental

Dear Mr. Malmental, I started a new thread.

The thread is titled: How to use my TV as my computer monitor.

I hope you can assist me with this new project with easy wiring or simple modifications. Thank you for all of your help.

Reply to daveed12vas

you could try a DVI to HDMI adapter

Reply to Emerald

malmental wrote :

see you there..


Hi Mr malmental/dell borg! My mother also has a Dell optiplex 620 but its the USFF. She had the stock 1GB DDR2 which was 2 512GB sticks. Her USFF only has two slots on the motherboard. So I replaced the two 512's with two 2GB sticks. After booting up the memory was recognized fine and seemed to work well(incredibly fast). After being on the internet for a while the computer turns to the infamous blue screen. It says, a problem has caused windows to close! Not sure if this is caused by the new ram or not? I put the old sticks back in and no problems at all but retrying the 2GB sticks I get the same results. Could the Voltage be off a bit or some other bios settings need change. Please help!

Reply to Garretdixon

Garretdixon wrote :

Hi Mr malmental/dell borg! My mother also has a Dell optiplex 620 but its the USFF. She had the stock 1GB DDR2 which was 2 512GB sticks. Her USFF only has two slots on the motherboard. So I replaced the two 512's with two 2GB sticks. After booting up the memory was recognized fine and seemed to work well(incredibly fast). After being on the internet for a while the computer turns to the infamous blue screen. It says, a problem has caused windows to close! Not sure if this is caused by the new ram or not? I put the old sticks back in and no problems at all but retrying the 2GB sticks I get the same results. Could the Voltage be off a bit or some other bios settings need change. Please help!


what are the exact specs of the RAM in question.?

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Reply to malmental

I got the ram on new egg, and I got the specs from crucial.
GeIL 2GB 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 667 (PC2 5300) Desktop Memory Model GX22GB5300LX

Reply to Garretdixon

The CL is 5 and the timing 5-5-5-15, 1.8 V

Reply to Garretdixon

http://i1130.photobucket.com/albums/m529/malmental/GX620USFF-PD34-MAR-R-box.jpg

this is the model your talking about.?

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Reply to malmental

Yes, thats the one.
The stock Ram was PC2-4200, 533hz 1.8V with 5-4-4-12 timing and the bus clock speed is 266.67.
The new Ram is PC2-5300, 667hz 1.8V with 5-5-5-15 timing and not sure about the bus speed.

Reply to Garretdixon

OK, I understand.
this thread is going to close, you should open your own or send me a private message...
I help you out.

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