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October 26, 2010 4:53:07 AM

Hello all. I've been trolling the forums for a bit as I consider my new system and need some advice in light of the new GPU war. Previously, I was planning this system effectively as the hardware-revolution $1000 build with a few upgrades to facilitate OC on the CPU and possibly GPU(s). For what it's worth, i currently game on a 2yr old mid-range laptop, so anything I buy is going to be a solid step in the right direction :)  My budget is moderately flexible, but I don't want to overspend unnecessarily. I will likely never, for instance, run multiple monitors or run a crazy overclocked liquid cooling system. I really just want a solid system that won't need to be replaced in 2 years. Specifically, my questions are:
1. Which GPU solution would be the best? I'm looking at either a 460, 6850 or 6870 system (470's temp issues have it crossed off my list). Conceptually, I would likely either go single 460/6850 now with a possible future SLI/Crossfire upgrade or a single 6870. My real question is...would a single 460/6850 be fine for me for a looong time? How much would a 6870 upgrade future-proof me and negate the need to SLI/Crossfire in the future?
2. Is anything in this list complete overkill?

Approximate Purchase Date: Soon. Maybe tomorrow, maybe a few weeks. If waiting would have a huge benefit, I'm all ears.

Budget Range: 1000-1100, though I could go to 1200 if there's a huge benefit

System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming. SC2, Civ 5, Diablo 3 when Blizzard finally gets around to it :) 

Parts Not Required: keyboard, mouse, monitor, speakers (need windows 7)

Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg, i suppose

Country of Origin: USA

Parts Preferences: N/A

Overclocking: Yes, but not to any extreme

SLI or Crossfire: most likely...need input

Monitor Resolution: 1920 x 1080

Additional Comments: (e.g.: Need to have a window and lots of bling, I would like a quiet PC)

Essentially, I've pretty much settled on what I believe is a solid i5-760 build. The gpu is my big bogey.

CPU: i5-760 $209
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo: Asus Maximus III $190 (chosen for OC, though maybe it's overkill??)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

DVDR: Lite-on $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung 500gb $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

PSU: Corsair 850 $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ram: G.Skill 2x2 1600 $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Case: CM HAF 912 $60 (seems like too solid of a deal to pass up...I think)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

OS: W7 Home Premium $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total w/o GPU: $853 (all totals shown incl tax and shipping, including newegg package discounts before rebate)

The case, ram, and mobo are chosen to be able to OC, though again, I'll likely not be too aggressive with this. My options for GPU look like:
1. 6850 (I would OC) $1055 total

2. Gigabyte super-OC 460 1gb $1098 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. Gigabyte 6870 $1120 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Finally, I've at least considered going dual-6850s off the bat, but it pushes my total over $1250. I'm assuming this is vastly superior, but if the single 6850 would already be enough, I'd probably hold off. Input here is much appreciated. Knowing myself, there's a reasonable chance that I would forget about ever upgrading, so that's part of my draw to just do both now. I'm especially curious what the weakest link in the chain is for this system. Is 2x6850 overkill given the processor? I've read that the 6870 doesn't have much room to OC, which leads me to question whether a single 6850 might be close to as good.

Thank you in advance to anyone patient and helpful enough to read through this and offer much-needed advice.


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October 26, 2010 5:17:46 AM

^ For that type of gaming, a single powerful card would suffice IMO...
Here is a setup...
i5 760 + HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

P55-USB3 + OS
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Mushkin 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CM HAF 912 + CM Silent PRO 600W
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

HDD - Why not the 1TB, ~$15 more
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
Or here even cheaper...
http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=HD-HD103SJ&tit...

DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU Cooler -
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002G1YPH0/ref=s9_simh...

Total - ~$930
As you still have some room, maybe a SSD would be a good addition
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
With SSD - Total - ~$1055

By the time you would need a more powerful graphic card, there will be newer cards, so upgrade to those...
And I would like to say that you can check out even AMD CPUs as they would offer more value for money if going for a gaming setup...
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October 26, 2010 5:44:51 AM

thehundo said:
Hello all. I've been trolling the forums for a bit as I consider my new system and need some advice in light of the new GPU war. Previously, I was planning this system effectively as the hardware-revolution $1000 build with a few upgrades to facilitate OC on the CPU and possibly GPU(s). For what it's worth, i currently game on a 2yr old mid-range laptop, so anything I buy is going to be a solid step in the right direction :)  My budget is moderately flexible, but I don't want to overspend unnecessarily. I will likely never, for instance, run multiple monitors or run a crazy overclocked liquid cooling system. I really just want a solid system that won't need to be replaced in 2 years. Specifically, my questions are:
1. Which GPU solution would be the best? I'm looking at either a 460, 6850 or 6870 system (470's temp issues have it crossed off my list). Conceptually, I would likely either go single 460/6850 now with a possible future SLI/Crossfire upgrade or a single 6870. My real question is...would a single 460/6850 be fine for me for a looong time? How much would a 6870 upgrade future-proof me and negate the need to SLI/Crossfire in the future?
2. Is anything in this list complete overkill?

Essentially, I've pretty much settled on what I believe is a solid i5-760 build. The gpu is my big bogey.

CPU: i5-760 $209
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get the 750, 15 bucks cheaper than 760 and you can OC it, 760 isnt worth it

Mobo: Asus Maximus III $190 (chosen for OC, though maybe it's overkill??)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

As gkay said, go with GA-P55-USB3, Gigabyte is a great brand for Mobos

DVDR: Lite-on $20
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD: Samsung 500gb $55
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Get the 1 TB, youll be doing yourself a favor...

PSU: Corsair 850 $130
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I think you'd be fine with 750W

Ram: G.Skill 2x2 1600 $95
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Might wanna consider the same thing but at 1333 MHz, you can always OC it to 1600, and its cheaper, natively supported by the mobo as well

Case: CM HAF 912 $60 (seems like too solid of a deal to pass up...I think)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Check out NZXT Lexa S, same price, GREAT case

OS: W7 Home Premium $100
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total w/o GPU: $853 (all totals shown incl tax and shipping, including newegg package discounts before rebate)

The case, ram, and mobo are chosen to be able to OC, though again, I'll likely not be too aggressive with this. My options for GPU look like:
1. 6850 (I would OC) $1055 total

2. Gigabyte super-OC 460 1gb $1098 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

3. Gigabyte 6870 $1120 total
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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October 26, 2010 5:45:49 AM

Even if you don't go for AMD the build above by gkay09 is perfect ^^ A single HD 6870 will suffice for sure.
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October 26, 2010 7:12:42 AM

Wow, super helpful in only a few hours :)  Thank you for the quick responses. In the back of my mind, I thought this was heading towards a 2x 5850 build, so you've steered me in a far more budget-conscious direction, which my wallet thanks you for. Having already wrestled with the i5 vs 955 debate, I'm pretty sure that I'm sticking with Intel (budget isn't a massive concern here...more like just not overspending for no reason), but thank you for the suggestion.

Anywho, it sounds like going with a 6870 (and dropping crossfire and the necessary psu headroom) is the fan favorite, which seems sensible to me. Any dissension? Moreover, any reason to reconsider the 470 in lieu of the 6870? I'll probably mildly overclock anything i get (note: i know SQUAT about this outside of what I've read here in a few days, so this assumes I can figure out HOW to overclock easily hehe).

Thanks again.
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October 26, 2010 8:31:14 AM

^ HD 6870 and GTX 470 have similar performance(some games play better on 6870, some on GTX 470) but overall the 6870 is a better card when taking into performance/ power into account also the temps...

But you could go 2x HD 6850s if you want to,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

But I doubt Blizzard games would need that much graphic prowess though, also Crossfire support seems to be of least concern there,...
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October 26, 2010 11:19:32 AM

thehundo said:
Wow, super helpful in only a few hours :)  Thank you for the quick responses. In the back of my mind, I thought this was heading towards a 2x 5850 build, so you've steered me in a far more budget-conscious direction, which my wallet thanks you for. Having already wrestled with the i5 vs 955 debate, I'm pretty sure that I'm sticking with Intel (budget isn't a massive concern here...more like just not overspending for no reason), but thank you for the suggestion.

Anywho, it sounds like going with a 6870 (and dropping crossfire and the necessary psu headroom) is the fan favorite, which seems sensible to me. Any dissension? Moreover, any reason to reconsider the 470 in lieu of the 6870? I'll probably mildly overclock anything i get (note: i know SQUAT about this outside of what I've read here in a few days, so this assumes I can figure out HOW to overclock easily hehe).

Thanks again.


So getting the 750 I take it?
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November 2, 2010 5:20:49 PM

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