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October 26, 2010 10:41:59 PM

So my rich friend is buying a computer today. He's buying it from digitalstorm and would like some recommendations. Anyone mind linking some GREAT computers for gaming?

Thanks in advance.
October 26, 2010 10:53:55 PM

Digitalstorm is a great place, I bought my pc there, you want customize, they will do it for, everything on my system is customized, I just don't feel like building my own anymore, and they do a great job.

As far as performance goes, more money does not mean more performance, you will have a hard time beating the performance of this pc in games at 1900 x 1200 by spending more money. (this excludes games that need crossfire or sli to get 60 fps at 1900 x 1200):

Use this ticket number on their site:451770

Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Black OPS HailStorm Edition
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 930 2.80GHz (Quad Core)
Motherboard: EVGA X58 SLI 3 Edition (USB 3.0 & SATA 6Gb/s) (Model: 131-GT-E767) BACKORDERED ETA 11/7
System Memory: 6GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified Performance Series (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (80GB Solid State (By: Intel) (Model: X25-M MLC Edition) (Extreme Performance)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX Technology)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: AIR: Stage 1: Noctua NH-U12P SE Dual 120mm Fans High Performance Cooler (i7 Processors Only)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Standard Factory Chassis Fans
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: FREE: Stage 1: Overclock the processor between 3.3GHz to 3.9GHz (Cooling Upgrade Recommended)
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: Memory Fan Kit Only (Does not include memory overclocking service)
Boost OS: - No Thanks, Please do not tweak the services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: - No Thanks
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty

feel free to change the gpu to 6870/5870 if you like, this system is able to grow and be even a bigger monster then it is now, you can add 2 more gpus for tri crossfire/sli, you can add as many hdd and etc down the road.
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October 26, 2010 11:57:35 PM

Specifications:
Chassis Model: Special Deal Hot Seller - Cooler Master Elite 430
Exterior Finish: - Standard Factory Finish
Trim Accents: - Standard Factory Finish
Processor: Intel Core i7 Extreme Edition 980X 3.33GHz (Six-Core) (Extreme Performance)
Motherboard: ASUS Rampage III Extreme (Intel X58 Chipset) (Features USB 3.0 and SATA 6Gb/s)
System Memory: 12GB DDR3 1600MHz Digital Storm Certified (Highly Recommended) (Hand Tested)
Power Supply: 1000W Corsair (Dual/Triple/Quad SLI Compatible)
Expansion Bay: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 1: Operating System: 1x (80GB Solid State (By: Corsair) (Model: Drive Force Series CSSD-F80GBP2-BRKT)
Set 1 Raid Options: - No Thanks
Hard Drive Set 2: Multimedia\Data: 1x (1TB Western Digital Caviar (7200 RPM) (64MB Cache) (Model: Black Edition WD1002FAEX)
Hard Drive Set 3: Backup\Misc.: - No Thanks
Optical Drive 1: DVD-R/RW/CD-R/RW (DVD Writer 24x / CD-Writer 48x)
Optical Drive 2: - No Thanks
Internet Access: High Speed Network Port (Supports High-Speed Cable / DSL / Network Connections)
Video Card: 1x NVIDIA GeForce GTX 480 1.5GB (Includes PhysX) (EVGA SuperClocked+ 015-P3-1485-AR)
Add-on Card: - No Thanks
Sound Card: Integrated Motherboard Audio
Extreme Cooling: H20: Stage 2: Asetek Liquid CPU Cooler (120mm Radiator) (Great Value)
H20 Tube Color:- Not Applicable, I do not have a FrostChill or Sub-Zero LCS Cooling System Selected
Chassis Airflow: Upgrade Chassis With LED Performance Fans (Blue) (Up to 6 Fans)
Internal Lighting: - No Thanks
Enhancements: - No Thanks
Chassis Mods: - No Thanks
Noise Reduction: - No Thanks
Boost Processor: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my processor
Boost Video Card: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my video card(s)
Boost Memory: - No Thanks, Please do not overclock my memory
Boost OS: FREE: Yes, Disable and tweak all of the non-crucial services on the operating system
Windows OS: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium (64-Bit Edition)
Recovery Tools: Windows Recovery Toolkit (Bundled with Windows 7 CD)
Virus Protection: - No Thanks
Office: - No Thanks
Benchmarking: - No Thanks
Install/Test Game: - No Thanks
Display: - No Thanks
Surge Shield: - No Thanks
Speakers: - No Thanks
Keyboard: - No Thanks
Mouse: - No Thanks
External Storage: - No Thanks
Exclusive T-Shirt: FREE: Digital Storm T-Shirt - Black (Xtra Large)
Priority Build: - No Thanks, Ship Within 5-15 Business Days After Order Is Successfully Processed
Warranty: Life-time Expert Customer Care with 3 Year Limited Warranty
October 27, 2010 4:02:52 AM

LOL that build is a mess.

first the case is is a midtower, my case is a full tower with lot of extra features, I mean the hailstorm is the corair 800D, that is a kickass case, you got hot swap bays, you got 140mm fans, good airflow and plenty of room to grow.

he has chosen the 980x which is a six core but in games you are not gonna notice the difference, my build however will endup around 3.8GHz, and because of that it will be much faster then 3.2GHz.

ASUS Rampage III Extreme is ok but I would take the classified over that any day, not that you friend will notice the difference between the assus or the 3x sli I chose, only big overclockers like my self or big benchmarkers will notice a difference. gamers won't, the cost you will notice tho.

12GB of ram for a gamer, what can I say, pure waste, he will most likely never even get to use the whole 6GB of ram let along 12GB, you can go over his house and remove 6GB of that and he would never notice teh difference in performance with games. More then 6GB of ram is for people that want to do heavy duty HD, 3D, editing or virtual servers and etc, for games 6GB is more then enough.

we both have the same psu, only reason I put that in there is so you has room to grow in the future.

If I'm not mistaken the intel ssd I chose should be a better one.

asetek cooler is crap drop it, its performance is not better then Noctua, asetek does not offer the same performance as a real liquid cooled system with proper/quality rad/blocks and pumps and etc.

Upgrade Chassis With LED is a bad idea as the LED fans they use are loud, the extra airflow will not make a noticeable difference in gpu/cpu temps.

in short my system cost much less and will beat or match his pc's performance in games, and mine has more room to grow.

just so you know here is my pc from DS:

its the Digital Storm Terminator (DST):

you can see it here


that is the hailstorm (corsair 800D), of course the led fans are custom and don't come with the case, and those are not the led fans that DS offers either, the case has been modified to fit the 4x sli classified also to fit 4 gpus on the 4 x classified, its being worked on still, we are changing 4 x 295 gtx to 4 x 480 gtx, with ek nicle/acrylic waterblocks, the cpu is a 980x OCed to 4.4GHz.

below is a small list of some of the specs:

October 27, 2010 4:58:48 AM

Alienware and IBuyPower are the 2 I am more familiar with. Alienware is owned by Dell so you know their warranty is good.
You want a 6k to 7k system for max speed?

i7 980x overclocked to 4+ghz
12GB DDR3 1600 ( or higher)
2 x GTX480s or 2 x HD5970s depends on if you want Nvidia or Ati. ( you can go as much as 4 of these cards but just how many monitors at what resolution are you going to be running?)
256GB SSD for your C: drive
at least 1TB for storage
A sound card if you choose.
Network cards are basically a waste of money. The one on the motherboard works fine.
At least a 1000w power supply.
Water cooling. And not a crappy Corsair H50 either you want a full water cooling setup.
Start configuring and see if I left anything out.
October 27, 2010 5:31:14 AM

So I talked to my friend and he specifically wants a comp from Digitalstorm. He doesn't really want to overclock.

Case: He doesn't want a full tower. A mid-tower would be big enough for him. Preferably a smaller mid tower if everything would fit while providing good cable management/airflow.

Processor: i7 XX? If he's willing to spend a grand on it so why shouldn't he choose the most expensive one.

RAM: 6GB or 12GB doesn't make a huge difference to him. Again, he doesn't want to OC.

GPU: He actually doesn't mind getting 1 card now (and upgrading to two in a year or so).

SSD: Says 80gbs would be good for him.

HD: 1tb is good

Sound card: No
Network card: stock mobo

PSU: Any good one will do.

Water cooling: No idea which one to get.

Digitalstorm offers some free overclocking for CPU/GPU/Ram/OS but he says he would only do it if he could confirm it would be safe and the PC would still run for quite some time without any problems.


I'm getting really annoyed with this and would rather not do this for him but he insists on me finding out what more skilled people think.

If you could just mess around on Digitalstorm and copy the link that'd be great.

Thanks and sorry for all this crap :/ 
October 27, 2010 6:19:29 AM

the pc is not going to be quiet, all pcs are loud first and foremost due to the gpu's fan, when you gpu goes under heavy load, its fan kicks in and its loud.

OC is very safe with a 3.8GHz oc his cpu should last minimum of 9 years but probably more.

if he want to upgrade then he want a full tower so the cards are not sandwiched together creating even a hotter environment, but if he wants a mid tower so be it, but bigger specially like the haf will mean more room = better temps/airflow in the case.

as far as 12GB of ram goes it has nothing to do with oc, it has to do with the fact that he is basically throwing money in the trash and he will see no gain from it, he is better off going with 6GB at least it will put less pressure on the mem controller.

if he is not ocing then why is he getting a cpu cooler for? its not needed, but if he does want to take my advise and oc then tell him to go with air, he does not need LC, and to get a proper LC system we have to customize the rad, blocks, fans, and etc and that will cost him an arm and a leg, the Noctua D14 and 12 are great air coolers for the cpu, and will give good temps for a mild OC like 3.7GHz. Again noise is not an issue here since 90% of the noise will come from the gpu's fan when under load.

just look back at my build, tell me to replace the 950 with the 980x, and the gpu with whatever he wants but if he is gaming at around 1900 x 1200 res, then he wants to stick with a 480/5870/6870, choose one of those for now.

FYI Alienware and IBuyPower are crap, I have not seen a cheap builder like Ibuypower before and tho the warranty of dell is good, I have some dells, alienware builds are crap, for same price or less you can get better performance/pc from Digital Storm.

if you are looking for a highend pc, get over to DS and customize yourself a good system for a good price. The parts that DS offers, is not even an option in AW or IBP.

Don't apologize for nothing, we love questions and that is why we are here, so ask as many questions as you have, before hand is the time to ask all the questions, after the sale its too late.
October 27, 2010 6:56:00 AM

Thanks :) 

So the new Digital Storm code is 451879.

If you could just look over it and tell me what you think that'd be great. Should he upgrade the cooling? He ended up choosing for digital storm to OC his stuff for free haha.

Anyways, let me know thanks!

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October 27, 2010 7:22:51 AM
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OK that ticket is onthe right track but still needs changes.

the classified does not offer sata 3.0 and usb 3.0 the ftw edition is a better pic if he wants to go that route.

change ram back to digital storm ram, nothing to really gain from corair models they have, for his use again he won't notice the difference, this pc is so powerful that it makes up for certain things, for example ram latency will not mean much to games when you got a quad core and a 480 gtx, you will be around 50 to 60 fps which means that your game is smooth, so just a tab bit more smooth is not gonna be noticeable, now if he was a power user, then that would be a different story.

Don't OC the gpu, it will run hotter which then means that its loud fan will be running almost all the time, and the fps gain is probably not even noticed yet again, unless he is playing metro dx11 or crysis.

don't tweak the OS, again no need and it will make no difference to apps and games, but if there is a service he needs and its been disabled, he could have hell of a time identifying and locating and starting all the services that he needs.

I would take the money that I saved from the changes I mentioned and get a longer warranty, I went with 5 year so I got nothing to worry about, by then it will be time for a new pc anyways.

so if he makes the changes I recommended to that ticket, he will have gotten max performance for every penny he is spending, and performance he will notice, and that pc will be upgradable to as his need for cpu and gpu power grows he can upgrade both, his cpu can be upgraded to the current 6 core cpu, in couple of years it should be pretty cheap and a nice upgrade, and he can upgrade and/or sli/crossfire for more gpu power, and all he would need to do those upgrades are just the parts he is upgrading, cpu or the gpu, thats it, everyhing else is there in the system to support it, enough power (check), enough pci lanes (check), enough space (check), good airflow (check), lol.

never told me what the resolution of his monitor is.
October 27, 2010 7:33:37 AM

1280x1024 is his resolution. He just asked why he should buy a new monitor lol.

Also, for the cooling there are two Noctua coolers. Should he get Stage 1 or Stage2?
October 27, 2010 7:42:24 AM

First off, IMHO build it yourself unless it is a laptop....
Second off, sorry for epicly long post, sue me if it is to long....

I personally don't have much experience with Digital, but I do have experience with Alienware, Ibuypower, and Cyberpowerpc(my work makes me buy the work computers, and won't let me build them).... anyway alienware, overpriced....


DO NOT GET LIQUID COOLING IF YOU DO NOT HAVE EXPERIENCE it is a huge mistake if you aren't familiar with it, at least do a lot of research, one mistake and your computer is toast.....

Now I remember why we never bought from them, their site, IMHO is the worst compared to other companies.


Plus shouldn't your friend come and start a thread himself? it is always annoying to go through a person (No offense dude, it just is slower, and something might be lost)....

here is my "dream build" (hey I'm modest!) (please note that I made the configuration 6 months ago so it is a tiny bit outa date)


CPU : http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 999.99

Mobo: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~339.99

RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 249.99

GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~649.99 X2 so, 1299.98 (***Note*** if you WANT to go 3d, I'd get GTX 480's at LEAST two http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 519.99 X2, so 1039.98)

SSD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~259.99

HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 69.99

Case: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 219.99

PSU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~319.99

CPU cooler(**note** I stink at telling good coolers, so someone fill this spot in... I chose one I've heard is good.) http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 109.99

Blue ray: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~109.99

DVD/CD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... ~ 39.99


Ok now I will explain everything. Mobo is a nice one by Gigabyte, they have solid mobos, and good everything, basically. Ram I am a little choosy, all I have bought is for customers, and a-data (was on sale)... so I can't speak for G.skill other then I've heard good things about 'em... eventually you will need to buy another set. Normally I'd say Nvidia if I had to design this on a real budget, you didn't mention one so I went wild.... lol =p. HD 5970's are like "dual" core GPUs, ok? so you have "four" with this =o. The SSD I googled the mentioned one from the other forumer. The HDD is sata-3 and 600 gigs, not the biggest, but it is 64 MB cache too. The case, I have no clue, I've heard about this case, and had nice reviews... expensive though.... you can get better for cheaper, I am certain, I use a Coolermaster Elite 310, it'd be fine for you if you want... I can get the link. The blu-ray I just chose the best lookin' one, same with the CD/DVD.... sorry, I am "specialised" into certain areas... =/....


The total price is *drum roll* 4239.87. =o!!!!!! I went a little overboard, but it was fun(isn't that what it is all about??)... you can certainly get this down to at least 2500$ if you sacrifice a little.


OMG, he should totally get a new monitor IMHO, if he has the dough, go Nvidia 3d vision!!! here is a great(IMHO) 3d ready monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
October 27, 2010 7:48:22 AM

Correct 5970 is like dual gpu and that is exactly why you don't want it or need a it, a 5970 is in internal sli, which means that you are going to have to deal with sli driver problems and glitches with games, second quad scaling is not great, and it gets beat by tri scaling, in short tri crossfire 5870 beats crossfire 2 x 5970 (2 x 2 so actually quad crossfire).

rule number 1 to gpu is always stay with a single card if possible, if the power of one gpu is not enough then go with dual gpu.


Also like to correct one more point, you said "one mistake and your computer is toast....."

that is not correct, if the liquid spills in the pc, nothing happens, this is not regular water, this distilled water, it non conductive, which means unlike water it will not short stuff out, also the liquid cooling DS builds is professional and their warranty covers the pc both with oc and LC, so if the liquid spilled and did get into your cpu socket (that would not be good) you are still under warranty and covered, but again, they LC system is air tight and won't spill short of one stabbing it with something.
October 27, 2010 7:51:03 AM

So about his resolution lol. Should he get a new monitor? He wants to know what the difference would be between his old monitor and a nice new one?

Also the cooler question I asked 2 posts ago :) 
October 27, 2010 7:51:39 AM

you mean Crossfire, not SLI....

Go read a couple more reviews, from toms.....
October 27, 2010 7:53:50 AM

And Atotalnoob, thanks for the post. My friend will not use anything other than Digital storm haha. He won't even consider buying the parts and building/having it built for him.
October 27, 2010 7:57:59 AM

lilbizlaykray said:
So about his resolution lol. Should he get a new monitor? He wants to know what the difference would be between his old monitor and a nice new one?

Also the cooler question I asked 2 posts ago :) 



I said in my huge post, "he should totally get a new monitor IMHO, if he has the dough, go Nvidia 3d vision!!! here is a great(IMHO) 3d ready monitor
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Prod [...] 6824009222 "

As far as the cooling goes DO NOT GET LIQUID IF YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO WORK WITH IT. go the highest on air you can =D you can't get tooooo cold (well yes you CAN, but it is like 0 Kelvin (negative a few hundred Celcius...)... goin' no were with air on that, also get case fans, I am regretting not buying more fans on my build (actually my computer is hitting ridiculous temps, and I ordered 2 fans)
October 27, 2010 7:58:23 AM

lilbizlaykray said:
And Atotalnoob, thanks for the post. My friend will not use anything other than Digital storm haha. He won't even consider buying the parts and building/having it built for him.

It's a shame, building is so much fun =/

Edit: it is my pleasure.....
October 27, 2010 7:59:07 AM

Nice looking monitor!
October 27, 2010 8:01:26 AM

I dont' need to read reviews I happen to know what I'm talking about plus there are plenty more reputable websites to look at, tom's is not the end all of all benchmarks, sites like anadtech, guru3d, techpowerup and etc are all great sites to look at.


but go ahead and feel free, show us a benchmark from toms showing 2 x 5970 scaling beating tri crossfire scaling.

THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LIQUID COOLING. IF YOU SPILL IT NOTHING HAPPENS.

@lilbizlaykray, if he has a 20 to 24" then he is good, but if he wants a good panel then a good 24" ips panel will run him around $300 I think, dell had a good one and so did HP.

October 27, 2010 8:03:24 AM

Tom Kamkari said:
Correct 5970 is like dual gpu and that is exactly why you don't want it or need a it, a 5970 is in internal sli, which means that you are going to have to deal with sli driver problems and glitches with games, second quad scaling is not great, and it gets beat by tri scaling, in short tri crossfire 5870 beats crossfire 2 x 5970 (2 x 2 so actually quad crossfire).

rule number 1 to gpu is always stay with a single card if possible, if the power of one gpu is not enough then go with dual gpu.


Not really, scaling is pretty good with two GPU setups nowadays.



Also like to correct one more point, you said "one mistake and your computer is toast....."

that is not correct, if the liquid spills in the pc, nothing happens, this is not regular water, this distilled water, it non conductive, which means unlike water it will not short stuff out, also the liquid cooling DS builds is professional and their warranty covers the pc both with oc and LC, so if the liquid spilled and did get into your cpu socket (that would not be good) you are still under warranty and covered, but again, they LC system is air tight and won't spill short of one stabbing it with something. said:

Also like to correct one more point, you said "one mistake and your computer is toast....."

that is not correct, if the liquid spills in the pc, nothing happens, this is not regular water, this distilled water, it non conductive, which means unlike water it will not short stuff out, also the liquid cooling DS builds is professional and their warranty covers the pc both with oc and LC, so if the liquid spilled and did get into your cpu socket (that would not be good) you are still under warranty and covered, but again, they LC system is air tight and won't spill short of one stabbing it with something.


Yes they DO make them airtight, but mistakes happen, and who WANTS to deal with warrenty, besides, you need to clean your computer a MINIMUM of once a year (mine is once every six months), and it is a hassle on the liquid cooling.
Dude, go spill the water in your computer
October 27, 2010 8:05:44 AM

With all due respect you obviously have no experience with Liquid cooling, there is not one person that understands and has liquid cooling that will agree with your comment.

and just so you know its not regulare water in there.

and I said quad crossfire scaling is not as good as tri crossfire.
October 27, 2010 8:08:01 AM

I happen to know what I'm talking about plus there are plenty more reputable websites to look at, tom's is not the end all of all benchmarks, sites like anadtech, guru3d, techpowerup and etc are all great sites to look at. said:
I happen to know what I'm talking about plus there are plenty more reputable websites to look at, tom's is not the end all of all benchmarks, sites like anadtech, guru3d, techpowerup and etc are all great sites to look at.

Yes so? they all have about the same results.....




THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LIQUID COOLING. IF YOU SPILL IT NOTHING HAPPENS.
said:


THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH LIQUID COOLING. IF YOU SPILL IT NOTHING HAPPENS.


wanna take the risk? setup a camera and film yourself spilling the water on your computer, and then I'll believe you. as Benjamin franklin once said "an ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure"
I'm not saying there is anything wrong with it, I said it isn't for people who don't have experience with it.
October 27, 2010 8:10:50 AM

LOL no they don't have the same results since they test at different res, and different aa and af.

there is no risk WITH LC for the last time ITS NOT REGULAR WATER, ITS NON CONDUCTIVE
October 27, 2010 8:11:49 AM

Tom Kamkari said:
With all due respect you obviously have no experience with Liquid cooling, there is not one person that understands and has liquid cooling that will agree with your comment.
Yes I do, I build LC systems all the time, it is sorta a pastime....

and just so you know its not regulare water in there. said:

and just so you know its not regulare water in there.
duh, how stupid do you think I am?

and I said quad crossfire scaling is not as good as tri crossfire. said:
and I said quad crossfire scaling is not as good as tri crossfire.

Yes, but this is DUAL GRAPHICS CARDS, not quad??? quad = four, two 5970s = 2 gpus, that happen to have several cores in it....


Anyway, I am signing off for the day, I am going to go to work, and rebuild my companies server, and a few of the higher level accounting computers that HAVE LC just to let you know
October 27, 2010 8:12:09 AM

Best answer selected by lilbizlaykray.
October 27, 2010 8:14:45 AM

Tom Kamkari said:
LOL no they don't have the same results since they test at different res, and different aa and af.

Right, um you do know they test the same few res? you can guess the general area of the FPS, if you know enough
there is no risk WITH LC for the last time [b said:
ITS NOT REGULAR WATER, ITS NON CONDUCTIVE]there is no risk WITH LC for the last time ITS NOT REGULAR WATER, ITS NON CONDUCTIVE
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I said so, and you admitted that it had risk.
October 27, 2010 8:15:20 AM

Tom, thank you so much. My friend is really happy (and I am too even though the PC isn't for me!). But yeah he already purchased it and what do you know, his little brother just called me saying he wants to buy the same one lol.

Thanks again dude, really helped us out.

October 27, 2010 8:16:03 AM

Good luck lilbizlaykray it was my pleasure.

@atotalnoob, 2 x 5970 = 4 gpus in internal quad fire. each 5970 is already in internal crossfire, how do you think those 2 gpus in there are working together?

for the love of god man.

If you have build LC systems like me for years, then you have spilled the liquid once or twice and would have known there is nothing wrong and the risk is so tiny its non existent, you have a better chance of screwing your ram then you messing up your pc with LC.
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