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GTX 460 roundup - your pick

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September 7, 2010 1:56:54 PM

I've decided on a GTX 460 for my new build - please leave competing cards out of this thread for another discussion :non: 

Anyway, I'm trying to choose the best option - been reading the roundup toms' did the other day

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/geforce-gtx-460-rou...

I plan on adding another for SLI later, prob in about a year. I DO plan on overclocking this card, though I haven't before and I'm learning.

Currently I'm looking at the MSI 1gb cyclone
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It looks like a good option and I love the Seasonic X750 PSU combo.

Could anyone add any input on this variation of the card and/or others?

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September 7, 2010 3:14:52 PM

I take no pride in bumping, but tryin to make a decision here and I'd really like some input from some people who either own a 460 or are knowledgeable on the different options...
a c 376 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 3:53:36 PM

The Cyclone is one of the best GTX 460s and a good choice. The PSU is a bit pricey imo even with the combo but it is certainly a quality unit. Personally I would probably grab this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and then get the card with the free game(it's a good one);
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
FYI the XFX PSUs are also made by Seasonic. The above is about $50 less after rebates. If you aren't interested in the game you can probably ebay it for an even larger price difference.
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a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 4:00:22 PM

When it comes to NVidia cards the two best out there in my opinion are MSI (my last three cards were MSI - 6800GT, FX5900XT, and FX5200) and XFX. MSI has had incredible reliability but XFX is probably a bit better becasue of the lifetime warranty.
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 5:00:48 PM

muckle said:
I take no pride in bumping

Do it again and I'll close the thread. :non: 
September 7, 2010 5:12:30 PM

jyjjy said:
The Cyclone is one of the best GTX 460s and a good choice. The PSU is a bit pricey imo even with the combo but it is certainly a quality unit. Personally I would probably grab this;
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...
and then get the card with the free game(it's a good one);
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...
FYI the XFX PSUs are also made by Seasonic. The above is about $50 less after rebates. If you aren't interested in the game you can probably ebay it for an even larger price difference.


Excellent suggestion. That PSU is in a case combo I'll get that'll save me money.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

And as long as it suits me for SLI and my needs it's perfect... plus I still get that free game.
a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 6:29:23 PM

My vote is definitely in favor of MSI's Cyclone 1GB GTX 460. It has always reviewed very well, and if I were going to put a GTX 460 in a machine that would be my most likely choice.

I've owned at least 3 MSI nVidia based video cards and never had a lick of trouble with them. The Cyclone 1GB GTX 460 has been stellar in every online review I've seen. Yet to hear anyone gripe about it. :)  They seem to cool very well, which should give you optimal ability to OC.

BTW: EVGA is giving away a free Download of Metro 2033 if you buy a GTX 460 from them. So if you want that game, that might save cash. And the EVGA cards perform and I hear cool fairly well. However, I bought Metro 2033 and played it once through. Graphically it was fantastic. However, I have no desire to play it again. It's very linear game play, with no real plot line choices. And quite frankly, the guns in the game just really made me mad the whole way through. Shooting something with 20-50 rounds before it dies gets old after a while. ;) 
a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 7:44:46 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Do it again and I'll close the thread. :non: 


What your not allowed to bump? He didn't get a single answer to an easy question in about an hour and a half, I can't blame him. Its actually kind of sad that he needed to.

To the OP:

The MSI Hawk is the best, if you can afford it, followed by the Cyclone.
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 7:46:57 PM

AMW1011 said:
What your not allowed to bump? He didn't get a single answer to an easy question in about an hour and a half, I can't blame him. Its actually kind of sad that he needed to.

Try reading the sticky, you know the one titled "Read this first" that no one bothers to read at all.
a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 7:52:53 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Try reading the sticky, you know the one titled "Read this first" that no one bothers to read at all.


Oh I have. However, is a single bump really worth the time? I guess that is my question. I'm not saying a disagree with rules, if that rule wasn't there it would be pretty chaotic. I'm just wondering if there is some flexibility to that rule. To me he had a pretty decent reason to bump.

No bumping and no number calling, I know.

Also MM, do note that I really value your contribution to the forums, you are a great and dedicated mod.
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 7:58:59 PM

AMW1011 said:
Oh I have. However, is a single bump really worth the time? I guess that is my question. I'm not saying a disagree with rules, if that rule wasn't there it would be pretty chaotic. I'm just wondering if there is some flexibility to that rule. To me he had a pretty decent reason to bump.

No bumping and no number calling, I know.

Also MM, do note that I really value your contribution to the forums, you are a great and dedicated mod.

Thank you, your support is appreciated. However the bumping of threads does sometimes get out of hand and at some point needs to be stopped and as that sticky has been up for over six months I feel that it's time to start enforcing the "no bumping" rule otherwise there would no point in having such a rule, and what makes one thread more important than any of the others?
September 7, 2010 8:02:11 PM

I have researched and researched the GTX460 manufacturers, review after review, thread after thread. I came to the conclusion today that the MSI Cyclone is indeed, the best bang for your buck. All the reviews I have read greatly promoted the card and its price, and it is the easiest, safest, and most reliable card to over-clock. It also has extremely low temperatures under load, with the OC. It may suck more power than the AMD 5000's, but the GTX460's temps are much lower. Just check out any review of the card, all say the same thing. I bought mine today off of Newegg with the free game and rebate! Yes, the Hawk did just come out, but it will only OC better, and that's all it offers. I have read numerous reviews that the new "Cyclone cooler" is actually better than the Twin frozr II in some aspects. Get the Cyclone!
a b U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 8:05:29 PM

Mousemonkey said:
Thank you, your support is appreciated. However the bumping of threads does sometimes get out of hand and at some point needs to be stopped and as that sticky has been up for over six months I feel that it's time to start enforcing the "no bumping" rule otherwise there would no point in having such a rule, and what makes one thread more important than any of the others?


That is a good point. The OP to this thread had good reason to bump I think, especially since the answer was pretty simple (Its not a "MY PC won't boot, why?" thread). However, I see your point that he can't be allowed to do it, even if its understandable, because then others will abuse it. Even a limited bump rule wouldn't work. The warning you gave, while sounding a little heavy handed to him I'm sure, is as lenient as you can possibly be. Its kind of sad that it has to be that way.
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 8:11:06 PM

Rules are rules and sometimes they have to be enforced, I could get completely draconian and close any and every thread that gets bumped until people get the point that bumping threads is a no no but hopefully it won't come to that, only time will tell I suppose.
a c 611 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 8:34:50 PM

In terms of which GTX460 to pick, it seems that most reviews favor the card that has the highest factory overclock. A lot of people seem to like the MSI Cyclone, but it's performance usually falls in the middle of the pack... that's because it only has a moderate factory overclock. If you were to overclock the card to the other cards' specs, I expect the performance would likely be similar.

Similarly, the heat and noise results from the Tom's article may be misleading. The MSI Cyclone wins that part of the review, but again, it has the lowest factory clock speeds, and therefore should run cooler and quieter, but at a lower performance point. Again, if you were to overclock the MSI Cyclone up to 800 mhz to match the Palit Sonic Platinum, the noise and heat would likely be similar (maybe even higher). An additional issue is that the MSI Cyclone vents heat inside your case, which may raise overall case temperatures, while the Palit, and others, exhaust their heat outside the case.

Based on just the Tom's article, I woul go for the Palit Sonic Platinum, which is almost as quiet as the MSI Cyclone, but has greater performance, and as the article shows a greater price/performance ratio.

For your reference, here are some other articles:

http://www.guru3d.com/article/geforce-gtx-460-review/1
http://www.guru3d.com/article/msi-geforce-gtx-460-cyclo...
September 7, 2010 9:20:08 PM

I purchased 2 EVGA GTX 460s 1 Gig OC'ed from newegg to sli. One of the reasons for the EVGA card was the out of the Box exhaust. It seemed more inportrant to me that the hot air get out of my case than the small jump in performance I would see with the Palitt or the Cyclone. So far mine has been great, Idles at about 25C and loaded about 59C. I do have a HAF 932 case with a refridgerated unit ducted into the front 230mm fan though. My setup is in my Garage uninsulated....so if it is 100 outside it is 100 in the garage. The computer does fine out here....just needs dusting once a week, lol
September 7, 2010 10:32:31 PM

AMW1011 said:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Dear god that is a great combo. You should definitely get that. A beginning overclocker likely won't see a huge benefit from the HAWK, and that is a great PSU for a great deal.


I was looking at this one at first, and yeah it's a great deal... then again I found this one...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

It's an XFX 750watt - very highly reviewed (manufactured by seasonic, right?)

got a 9.7 on jonnyguru http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&fil...

and I like the case. Cheap combo after discount and rebates...

In my overall build I'll come out a little cheaper, and with that case which is nicer than what I had picked, and as a little perk I can pair the Cyclone with the free game.
a c 153 U Graphics card
September 7, 2010 11:09:21 PM

muckle said:
I was looking at this one at first, and yeah it's a great deal... then again I found this one...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

It's an XFX 750watt - very highly reviewed (manufactured by seasonic, right?)

got a 9.7 on jonnyguru http://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&fil...

and I like the case. Cheap combo after discount and rebates...

In my overall build I'll come out a little cheaper, and with that case which is nicer than what I had picked, and as a little perk I can pair the Cyclone with the free game.


Jesus those are both great combos, great case, great PSUs, great GPU. Its a tough decision, see if you can't get any other combos with the GPU besides that PSU one.

By the way, the HAWK, the Cyclone, and the DirectCU are the best 460s, I wouldn't get any others.

I'd probably go with the XFX PSU and Antec case just so you can SLI in the future.
September 7, 2010 11:43:36 PM

I hope someone could review 460 based on SLI from several different vendor. I will buy 2 460 soon to build up another PC. I have read lots of customer review and found out the none reference cooling may give you trouble on second card since the fan will blow hot air to second card. I may stick with eVGA card which may get little bit noise than other none reference card but it wont have problem on cooling with sli. otherwise customer cooling solution for sli could fix it.
September 8, 2010 2:48:00 AM

My first choice would be the following option from MSI :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... 204.99 after rebate

I know you are looking to run SLI with gtx 460s but you could look at this card, buy one now and then purchase another one for SLI once the price drops:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

It is an overclocked GTX 470 but it keeps very low temps under full load. It would cost 319.00 after the rebate and only runs on average 5-8 fps lower than a regular GTX 480.
September 8, 2010 4:27:14 AM

Mousemonkey said:
Thank you, your support is appreciated. However the bumping of threads does sometimes get out of hand and at some point needs to be stopped and as that sticky has been up for over six months I feel that it's time to start enforcing the "no bumping" rule otherwise there would no point in having such a rule, and what makes one thread more important than any of the others?


Well said.

As a former moderator, I'd just like to say that you've done a good job.
September 8, 2010 4:36:00 AM

I know you are not interested in competing cards, but again, another option is this Galaxy 470 After rebate it's in high end 460 price range. It idles around 40 degrees in my case, haven't stress tested it, but it did get to 78 in Crysis/Ultra high/noAA@1600x900. I also drilled for a fan installed on the bottom of my case to pull air in and blow directly into the gfx fan
a c 271 U Graphics card
September 8, 2010 2:36:07 PM

w0lfattack said:
Well said.

As a former moderator, I'd just like to say that you've done a good job.

Thank you.
September 8, 2010 2:45:25 PM

Lotta controversy about the bump in here... Ok I see both sides. Bumping is annoying.

But I think this thread is a legitimate discussion about a popular piece of hardware so I was annoyed it wasn't catching on. Maybe everyone was out to lunch or something. I guess I could have waited longer... but it doesn't take long for a dormant post to trickle down the list... I could have devised a more subtle way of keeping it alive. If not I would have just started a new thread but I figured that was just as bad.

September 8, 2010 5:19:21 PM

Well i purchased the asus 768 top edition and it runs better than the msi i think thats what i used to have i rmad it back for the asus for 2 reasons 1. the heat is inside your case not good imo and 2. the asus has voltage tweak and actual heatsinks that are worthy and every review has put it above the others heres a link of proof of the overclock also lol edit #2 lmfao
http://www.techpowerup.com/gpuz/8byf2/
September 8, 2010 5:26:20 PM

you can also bump the memory uo to 1840 but that doesnt do much
September 8, 2010 9:43:42 PM

no one mentioned gigabyte. i just got my gigabyte gtx 460 in the mail. hoping i didn't make the wrong choiiice?!?
a c 153 U Graphics card
September 8, 2010 10:07:41 PM

dandydaniel said:
no one mentioned gigabyte. i just got my gigabyte gtx 460 in the mail. hoping i didn't make the wrong choiiice?!?


Its in the top 5, it just doesn't hold its own against the MSIs and the ASUS (and even Palit), in my opinion.
a b U Graphics card
September 8, 2010 10:20:04 PM

dandydaniel said:
no one mentioned gigabyte. i just got my gigabyte gtx 460 in the mail. hoping i didn't make the wrong choiiice?!?


Nothing wrong with Gigabyte. :)  I use one of their motherboards, and they make fantastic mobos. :) 
September 29, 2010 7:29:52 AM

dandydaniel said:
no one mentioned gigabyte. i just got my gigabyte gtx 460 in the mail. hoping i didn't make the wrong choiiice?!?

mine also gigabyte...last time also gigabyte 8600GT...no problem at all.....and if u want to SLi (refer to Kit Guru website) it...it can be one of the coolest duo
a b U Graphics card
September 29, 2010 4:06:28 PM

dur_trix said:
before you get a GTX 460 read this please

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/nvidia-geforce-gtx-...


Just so you know dur_trix, we have previously proven that your comments about the GTX 460 are misinformed and your research is incomplete. The article you referenced is for the GTX 465 which is not the same as the GTX 460. The GTX 460 uses a different chip then the GTX 465 and the GTX 460 performs much better then the GTX 465. Please reference articles that relate to the discussion. Also, fan boyism is not helpful when trying to decide what card to use. ATI and NVidia are doing a decent job at the moment competing head to head at all levels. Please stop suggesting that people not buy the GTX 460 until you actually read the articles you are referencing.
a c 611 U Graphics card
September 30, 2010 12:04:03 AM

Good job. With that great cooler, I would say that card may be the best price/performance option out of the entire GTX460, 465, 470, 480 line.
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