Need help on what business class laptop to purchase!!!!!

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On 16 Jan 2005 09:55:14 -0800, "HOFChad" <creese@ProFootballHOF.com>
wrote:

>I'm looking to my a few business laptops for work.


What the heck are "business" versus "home" models anyway?
Business=Black, Home = not?  

My employer is a large business so we standardize on our purchase but
other than that, whatever the user needs, and not everybody needs a
huge screen with tons of accesories. Our sales warriors want something
nimble they can live with on the road, not even our admin staff want a
huge thing, they don't want to lugg 30+ LB to home.

Just go with a vendor you are comfortable with 'cuz u NEED good
after-sales support, it got a warranty u can live with, and got the
specs u want, that's it.

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Fujitsu.



dk


"HOFChad" <creese@ProFootballHOF.com> wrote in message
news:1105898114.709076.216280@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
> I'm looking to my a few business laptops for work. I have about $3,500
> to spend. This will be used as a desktop replacement. It will be
> plugged in the majority of the time, so battery life is not an issue.
> Applications used on these will include Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Office,
> among others. Please help me choose a processor - I'd like to get the
> fastest available.
>
> I've dealt with HP and Dell in the past and have had mixed results with
> HP. But Dell doesn't seem to have a business class model with a 17" -
> only a home model. I own a Vaio at home and like it alot. My company
> feels most comfortable with HP or Dell, but please give me suggestions.
>
> The minimum specs I am thinking about now include:
> * Win XP Pro
> * 1GB Ram
> * 100 GB HD
> * 17" Monitor
> * Media Port
> * CD/DVD RW
> * Port Replicator
> * 3 Yr Full/Accidental Warranty
> Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks everyone!
>

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Business class are laptops built for rugged use. They are usally tested and
overbuilt beyond the norm. IBM is business class, Dell has one business
class laptop, and Panasonic builds "Atomic blast survivable" laptops.

Gateway, Emachines, and HP do not have any. They may list them as business
solutions, but they are typical consumer junk laptops.

Dan

bobb wrote:
> On 16 Jan 2005 09:55:14 -0800, "HOFChad" <creese@ProFootballHOF.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I'm looking to my a few business laptops for work.
>
>
> What the heck are "business" versus "home" models anyway?
> Business=Black, Home = not?  
>
> My employer is a large business so we standardize on our purchase but
> other than that, whatever the user needs, and not everybody needs a
> huge screen with tons of accesories. Our sales warriors want something
> nimble they can live with on the road, not even our admin staff want a
> huge thing, they don't want to lugg 30+ LB to home.
>
> Just go with a vendor you are comfortable with 'cuz u NEED good
> after-sales support, it got a warranty u can live with, and got the
> specs u want, that's it.

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IBM T series with 15" Flexview screen. Best laptop in the world

On 16 Jan 2005 09:55:14 -0800, "HOFChad" <creese@ProFootballHOF.com>
wrote:

>I'm looking to my a few business laptops for work. I have about $3,500
>to spend. This will be used as a desktop replacement. It will be
>plugged in the majority of the time, so battery life is not an issue.
>Applications used on these will include Dreamweaver, Photoshop, Office,
>among others. Please help me choose a processor - I'd like to get the
>fastest available.
>
>I've dealt with HP and Dell in the past and have had mixed results with
>HP. But Dell doesn't seem to have a business class model with a 17" -
>only a home model. I own a Vaio at home and like it alot. My company
>feels most comfortable with HP or Dell, but please give me suggestions.
>
>The minimum specs I am thinking about now include:
>* Win XP Pro
>* 1GB Ram
>* 100 GB HD
>* 17" Monitor
>* Media Port
>* CD/DVD RW
>* Port Replicator
>* 3 Yr Full/Accidental Warranty
>Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!! Thanks everyone!
>

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> Business class are laptops built for rugged use.

Read his post

He searches somehting to stand around on a desk


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And I was replying to Bob, who asked about the difference.

Roland Mösl wrote:
>> Business class are laptops built for rugged use.
>
> Read his post
>
> He searches somehting to stand around on a desk

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Roland Mösl <founder@pege.org> writes:
> > Business class are laptops built for rugged use.
>
> Read his post
>
> He searches somehting to stand around on a desk

I think just using the laptop heavily counts as rugged use. I've
trashed out 3 Thinkpads over the past 10 years or so, just using them
almost completely in one location, but using them all day long, day
after day, as if they were desktop machines.

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Angry American wrote:
> Business class are laptops built for rugged use. They are usally tested and
> overbuilt beyond the norm. IBM is business class, Dell has one business
> class laptop, and Panasonic builds "Atomic blast survivable" laptops.
>
> Gateway, Emachines, and HP do not have any. They may list them as business
> solutions, but they are typical consumer junk laptops.
>
> Dan
>

Look at the warranty too. 3 year warranty on IBM. But since they sold
out to China, who knows what will happen with that.

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On Sun, 16 Jan 2005 14:17:28 -0600, "Angry American"
<angryamerican@n0spamdooleyism.com> wrote:

>Business class are laptops built for rugged use. They are usally tested and
>overbuilt beyond the norm. IBM is business class, Dell has one business
>class laptop, and Panasonic builds "Atomic blast survivable" laptops.
>
>Gateway, Emachines, and HP do not have any. They may list them as business
>solutions, but they are typical consumer junk laptops.


Right. Count me on the sketical camp.

Since the obsolescence half-life of these things are like 3 years, I
don't want it to last that long, specially for business use 'cuz for
every software upgrade, as we know, u gotta buy faster hardware to run
the upgraded new-and-improved (right!) applications.

I can see it now, going into my boss's office and beg him, look I need
an upgrade, this thing can't run the latest software anymore. And of
course all bosses being bean counters and not technologists would
simple say, what it looks perfectly good, hardly any scratch on it!

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timeOday wrote:
>
> Look at the warranty too. 3 year warranty on IBM. But since they
> sold out to China, who knows what will happen with that.

IBM sold the manufacturing but kept the support for 5 years.

I.e., they sold the cow but kept the milk!

Regards,

James

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> > He searches somehting to stand around on a desk
>
> I think just using the laptop heavily counts as rugged use. I've
> trashed out 3 Thinkpads over the past 10 years or so, just using them
> almost completely in one location, but using them all day long, day
> after day, as if they were desktop machines.

And? I trashed in 10 years heavy use only one notebook and
one harddisk.

The harddisk was completly my foult 1994 puting the notebook
on the bad and leting run a reorg of a database in my very hot
apartment - south side hot summer day.

Notebooks are usualy used 4000 hours a year.

One had to survive 500 hours 100% CPU with raytraceing
in September 1994. 24 hours a day 7 days a week until the
raytraced video was finished.

All done with the cheapest notebooks to buy

Escom Companion,
Escomp Paradigma,
Gericom Modular
Gericom Overdose
Gericom Silver Serapht aka Dell 3500
Acer 800

So when You trashed out 3 thinkpads, I would assume
the quality is below Gericom or Escom


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Roland Mösl wrote:

>> > He searches somehting to stand around on a desk
>>
>> I think just using the laptop heavily counts as rugged use. I've
>> trashed out 3 Thinkpads over the past 10 years or so, just using them
>> almost completely in one location, but using them all day long, day
>> after day, as if they were desktop machines.
>
> And? I trashed in 10 years heavy use only one notebook and
> one harddisk.
>
> The harddisk was completly my foult 1994 puting the notebook
> on the bad and leting run a reorg of a database in my very hot
> apartment - south side hot summer day.
>
> Notebooks are usualy used 4000 hours a year.
>
> One had to survive 500 hours 100% CPU with raytraceing
> in September 1994. 24 hours a day 7 days a week until the
> raytraced video was finished.
>
> All done with the cheapest notebooks to buy
>
> Escom Companion,
> Escomp Paradigma,
> Gericom Modular
> Gericom Overdose
> Gericom Silver Serapht aka Dell 3500
> Acer 800
>
> So when You trashed out 3 thinkpads, I would assume
> the quality is below Gericom or Escom

FWIW, the build quality on my emachines doesn't seem all that bad--it's not
quite as solid as my Thinkpad 770, but little short of military hardware is
as solid as a 770.

--
--John
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(was jclarke at eye bee em dot net)

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> Look at the warranty

....Insurance policy. State Farm sells insurance also.
http://www.statefarm.com

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Maybe not "atomic blast survivable", but definitely the
best built notebooks on the market, plus the only one
that still comes with a 3-year warranty across the
entire product line.

Using a Panasonic is like driving a BMW ;-)



dk


"Angry American" <angryamerican@n0spamdooleyism.com> wrote in message
news:3500faF4h0i92U1@individual.net...
> Business class are laptops built for rugged use. They are usally tested
and
> overbuilt beyond the norm. IBM is business class, Dell has one business
> class laptop, and Panasonic builds "Atomic blast survivable" laptops.
>
> Gateway, Emachines, and HP do not have any. They may list them as business
> solutions, but they are typical consumer junk laptops.
>
> Dan
>
> bobb wrote:
> > On 16 Jan 2005 09:55:14 -0800, "HOFChad" <creese@ProFootballHOF.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> I'm looking to my a few business laptops for work.
> >
> >
> > What the heck are "business" versus "home" models anyway?
> > Business=Black, Home = not?  
> >
> > My employer is a large business so we standardize on our purchase but
> > other than that, whatever the user needs, and not everybody needs a
> > huge screen with tons of accesories. Our sales warriors want something
> > nimble they can live with on the road, not even our admin staff want a
> > huge thing, they don't want to lugg 30+ LB to home.
> >
> > Just go with a vendor you are comfortable with 'cuz u NEED good
> > after-sales support, it got a warranty u can live with, and got the
> > specs u want, that's it.
>
>

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Dan Koren wrote:

>
>
> Maybe not "atomic blast survivable", but definitely the
> best built notebooks on the market, plus the only one
> that still comes with a 3-year warranty across the
> entire product line.
>
> Using a Panasonic is like driving a BMW ;-)

You mean it marks you as a Yuppie with more money than brains?

> dk
>
>
> "Angry American" <angryamerican@n0spamdooleyism.com> wrote in message
> news:3500faF4h0i92U1@individual.net...
>> Business class are laptops built for rugged use. They are usally tested
> and
>> overbuilt beyond the norm. IBM is business class, Dell has one business
>> class laptop, and Panasonic builds "Atomic blast survivable" laptops.
>>
>> Gateway, Emachines, and HP do not have any. They may list them as
>> business solutions, but they are typical consumer junk laptops.
>>
>> Dan
>>
>> bobb wrote:
>> > On 16 Jan 2005 09:55:14 -0800, "HOFChad" <creese@ProFootballHOF.com>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> >> I'm looking to my a few business laptops for work.
>> >
>> >
>> > What the heck are "business" versus "home" models anyway?
>> > Business=Black, Home = not?  
>> >
>> > My employer is a large business so we standardize on our purchase but
>> > other than that, whatever the user needs, and not everybody needs a
>> > huge screen with tons of accesories. Our sales warriors want something
>> > nimble they can live with on the road, not even our admin staff want a
>> > huge thing, they don't want to lugg 30+ LB to home.
>> >
>> > Just go with a vendor you are comfortable with 'cuz u NEED good
>> > after-sales support, it got a warranty u can live with, and got the
>> > specs u want, that's it.
>>
>>

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--John
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