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October 28, 2010 7:43:58 AM

mainly a gaming rig for cata when it comes out and games that when i play, i dont need it to be on the max settings. trying to keep it intel based for around 500$

Mobo - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
CPU - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
Graphics - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
Memory - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
or 2gs http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
HD - western digital reliable? http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
Disk Drive - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
PSU - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
Case - not sure if i should get a full tower or mid tower... if its a full tower....
http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
and if i ever win the lottery - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

how is it? havent really been looking at other sites. just looking for the general parts and ill try to find it cheaper if the builds good.

--EDIT--

so this is the amd build i worked on. let me know what you think

AMD - 535$/555$
Mobo/CPU 160$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

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Mobo 60$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

CPU 110$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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Graphics 135$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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Memory 85$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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HD 40$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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Disk Drive 20$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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PSU 55$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...
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Case 40$ - http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

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a b B Homebuilt system
October 28, 2010 11:14:49 AM

Point 1. If you're not in California, try to get some of these from Newegg, as it'll be slightly cheaper. I'm giving you Tiger Direct links 'coz that's what you provided me with.

Point 2. With a $500 budget, I think you can you can at least get a Radeon HD 5770 1GB gfx card for around $120. That'll give you decent fps in almost any game on pretty decent settings.

Save the money on the case. There's no way you'll be needing that expensive a case - no way :ouch: 

Case : Get a much less expensive - but a very good quality case - you'll never need an uber-expensive full tower - $60 Cooler Master HAF 912

RAM : Faster RAM for cheaper - $84 Corsair 4GB DDR3, 1600MHz - forget bout getting 2GB.

PSU : Much better PSU for just a few bucks more - OCZ Fatal1ty 550-Watt PSU

HDD : Western Digitals are pretty reliable, but the Cavier Blues are not as fast as the Cavier Blacks. Samsung Spinpoint F4's will be even faster, though slightly more expensive.

Btw, that Intel Mobo is OK only if you're looking to run a system off the box. If you wanna play 'round with the settings a bit, you might wanna look at a P55 from Asus/Gigabyte/MSI etc. The H55 chipset is primarily for non-gamers looking to use the Integrated graphics of the i3/i5 Clarkdales. And Intel mobos in any case aren't exactly a favorite with the enthusiast community. So don't expect me to recommend that :) 

Option - ASUS P7P55-M Motherboard
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October 29, 2010 7:35:36 AM

AMD build edited into the first post.
a b B Homebuilt system
October 29, 2010 9:58:15 AM

The Phenom II dual core is something I'll avoid. Get a Phenom II quad core 9xx if you wanna spend a bit more, not that you'll be needing it badly for gaming. An Athlon II triple core 450 will be sufficient IMO.

The rest of your parts look good enough to me.

Just one thing though - Anandtech gaming benchmark - AMD Athlon II X4 630 vs Intel Core i3 540
October 29, 2010 11:35:31 AM

Why would you want to avoid phenom II duelcore?
a b B Homebuilt system
October 29, 2010 12:25:43 PM

Over a spread of games current and incoming the X3 would be sweet spot ^^


The Game Rundown: Finding CPU/GPU Bottlenecks, Part 2
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
Quote:
Conclusion: A Trend Toward 3+ Cores

The average optimal number of CPU cores suggested by the test results is 2.75, showing a clear trend towards at least three CPU cores.The question of whether the CPU or GPU is most important is easily answered. If you don't have a multi-core CPU, then upgrade it. If you have a dual-core CPU at around 3 GHz, then invest your money into a graphics card, as most games are GPU-limited. This is not something that will change with new DirectX 11 games.


Once u turn on real world Full HD + AA/AF the bottleneck is pushed back to the GPU always and unless u on a single core or dated X2 like E2xxx or A64 X2 a lot of peeps misunderstand CPU needs for gaming @@

Eg: 1920 X 1200 + AA/AF CPU scaling with GTX 460 And yes for comparison a USD $1000 i7 980X is included ^^




October 29, 2010 2:31:01 PM

So I should buy a x3? Or is the one in the bundle good enough
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a b B Homebuilt system
October 29, 2010 3:16:51 PM

Well I think it's pretty clear from both batuchka's as well as my posts - X3 450 is the way to go for an AMD system. Get a quad if you have to, but stay well away from the hexacores.

BTW, did you even check out my CPU benchmark link? Did you get it? Seeing as you started out with Intel in mind, I would have thought that you'd at least have a few queries after checking it out.
October 30, 2010 4:16:37 PM

So even though the i3 540 is still superior then the AMD X3 450, with my budget i should still get AMD and it would still be fine with my video card?

I kind of understood the info in the link you gave to me but barely.
a b B Homebuilt system
October 30, 2010 9:55:52 PM

The Anandtech GPU bench shows how many frames per second you get in gameplay with the two processors in a variety of different popular games. (Ignore the non-game applications - scroll down to the bottom of the chart to see the benchmarks for various games like Crysis, Far Cry, etc) The Athlon IIX4 630 is faster than the 450 but still lags the i3 in most gaming benchmarks.

The AMD 450 should be fine for you, IMO, but the Core i series is a totally new chip design compared to the decade old AMD architechture and it still is faster despite having 1 less core.

But the 450 will be alright with your card and in the end in comes down to economy. The AMD 450 + mobo will cost 'bout 50-60 less than the Intel Core i3 + mobo. Your call in the end.
October 30, 2010 10:02:04 PM

Right now im leaning towards amd because the mobo has the option to crossfire. You think that would help a lot? I might buy an additional card in the future,
a b B Homebuilt system
October 31, 2010 5:18:53 AM

jongko said:


I kind of understood the info in the link you gave to me but barely.


Just means that when peeps buy say a $180++ GPU it is *precisely* not to game on such settings like 'medium quality' and at 1680 x 1050 no less :lol:  I would study real world game benches to judge if a CPU really is holding back the card like my examples: E2140 and by extension any X2 4000+ Athlon64 most certainly does hold back a GTX 460 Full HD/AA/AF
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