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October 28, 2010 3:43:42 PM

here are the specs of a computer i planned on building (total price around 700ish)


http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168... nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-_-RSSDailyDeals-_-na-_-na&AID=10521304&PID=3463938&SID=

I'm not good at comparing specs, so my question is would the specs of this computer be better than

Case ( NZXT Gamma Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Noise Reduction ( None )
iBUYPOWER Labs - Internal Expansion ( None )
Processor ( [== Quad Core ==] AMD Phenom™ II X4 965 Black Edition Quad-Core CPU )
Processor Cooling ( Liquid CPU Cooling System [AMD] - [Free Upgrade] Standard 120mm Fan )
Memory ( 4 GB [2 GB X2] DDR3-1333 Memory Module - Corsair or Major Brand ** FREE Upgrade to Corsair XMS3 Dominator ** )
Video Card ( NVIDIA GeForce GTX 460 - 1GB - ASUS DirectCU - Core: 675MHz - Single Card )
Video Card Brand ( Major Brand Powered by ATI or NVIDIA )
Free Stuff ( [Gaming Gear] - ASUS USB Gamepad - Free with Purchase of ASUS Motherboard & AMD CPU )
Motherboard ( ASUS M4A77T/USB3 -- AMD 770 Chipset )
Motherboard USB / SATA Interface ( Motherboard default USB / SATA Interface )
Power Supply ( 800 Watt -- Standard )
Primary Hard Drive ( 500 GB HARD DRIVE -- 16M Cache, 7200 RPM, 3.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( None )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
2nd Optical Drive ( None )
Flash Media Reader/Writer ( None )
Meter Display ( NZXT Sentry 2 Touch Screen Fan Controller & Temperature Display )
Sound Card ( 3D Premium Surround Sound Onboard )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( None- Pre-formatted Hard Drive Only )
Keyboard ( iBUYPOWER USB Keyboard - Black )
Mouse ( iBUYPOWER Internet Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( None )
2nd Monitor ( None )
Speaker System ( iBUYPOWER 2.1 Channel Stereo Super Bass Subwoofer Speaker System )
Power Protection ( None )
Headset ( None )
Video Camera ( None )
Warranty ( Standard Warranty Service - Standard 3-Year Limited Warranty + Lifetime Technical Support )
Rush Service ( Rush Service Fee (not shipping fee) - No Rush Service, Estimate Ship Out in 5~10 Business Days )

total price of the above is $832

which is most bang for my buck?
October 28, 2010 4:08:36 PM

Make your own, don't waste money on prebuilt... you get more experience by making it by yourself as well, more exciting and valuable
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October 28, 2010 5:01:29 PM

Your almost going to spend more on a pre-built 99% of the time. Build your own the way you want it! Remember, If you want something done right, do it yourself!
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October 28, 2010 5:13:51 PM

to reaper and ahumphers:

how do the specs of the links i posted (the 700ish computer) compare to the specs of the $832 computer

if the specs of the 700ish computer are better or atleast near equal, I'll just build it, but if the specs of the $832 computer are much better than I might as well get it pre-built (plus it comes with a 3 year warranty prebuilt.)

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October 28, 2010 5:16:25 PM

also, the $832 comes with speakers/keyboard/mouse

so subtracting that i'd imagine the price would still be around 700ish (mid 700s)

I didn't link speakers/mouse/keyboard for the 700ish computer so with those the prices would be a bit closer.
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October 28, 2010 5:17:14 PM

Build it!
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October 28, 2010 5:21:36 PM

ok cool building it seems the best option, but i need to know "why"....other than the learning experience. will someone let me know if the specs of my proposed build is better or worse than the pre-built specs i posted. or is it equal?
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October 28, 2010 5:47:31 PM

sometimes building your own rig makes you fully aware of your specs which makes it a lot more easier for an upgrade later....
you will have a better notion of what your rig is capable off
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October 28, 2010 5:56:48 PM

to tomate2: ok, I understand all of the (you will learn more by building your own rig) and I'm 80% sure I'll build it, but i just want to know which specs are better or if they are the same lol

please someone let a brotha know haha

in the future i'll be able to tell, but for now, can someone throw me a bone (I've googled individual parts but as a whole i need someone to help me determine which specs are better (or if they are the same essentially)

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October 28, 2010 6:02:29 PM

Your build has slightly faster RAM, but of a lesser brand (A Data). Never heard of that PSU company either, IMO you'd be better off getting maybe a 650W Corsair or Antec PSU than a 700W "unknown". Asrock mobos aren't bad, for the budget.

The prebuilt has a slightly better GPU (1gb vs your 768mb version). Slightly better CPU as well (955 vs 965, but not a big deal there).

Overall I'd go with build your own, but you should maybe try finding a few different options. Maybe you can get some better parts buy buying the Newegg combos.
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October 28, 2010 6:03:32 PM

They're giving you the same parts, but the HDD is half the size, and they're adding liquid cooling for no fkin reason.

Make your own, and switch that power supply to an XFX, Corsair or Antec. Also, get the Samsung Spinpoint F3 1 TB, NOT the WD Caviar

Make a new thread in the new build section and post the NAMES as WELL as the URLs please
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October 28, 2010 6:06:26 PM

not much between the two tbh, your rams lesser quality, as are both power supplies, get a good psu in the build, but your motherboards slightly better choice than theirs, I add my weight to the build it yourself argument though.
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October 28, 2010 6:28:49 PM

Thats $741 total!!
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October 28, 2010 7:02:13 PM

YES!!! I LOVE YOU GUYS (and or gals)

I wish i could give multiple best answers, but I'll use the suggestions here to start a new thread (right after my test in my class)

also, i'll need to remind myself to get a sata cable for the bare hard disk drive ahumphers suggested.

also would this cable be right for the bare drive?

COOLMAX 6" Cable Model SATA POWER ADAPTER - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

I just wanted to know before i created a new thread.

Edit: just compared reaper's and ahumpher's suggestions for hard drives and they both appear to be the exact same. (with exception of name)

anyone of higher quality? (or does it not matter?)
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October 28, 2010 7:26:30 PM

This topic has been moved from the section CPU & Components to section Systems by Mousemonkey
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October 28, 2010 11:14:19 PM

to ito infernox cool...and since this thread is now in the systems section i guess I don't need to make another thread.

sata cables (for the bare drive)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Western Digital Caviar Blue WD10EALS 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

SAPPHIRE 100315L Radeon HD 6850 1GB 256-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.1 x16:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/searchtools/ite...

ASRock 870 EXTREME3 AM3 AMD 870 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...



AMD Phenom II X4 955 Black Edition Deneb 3.2GHz 4 x 512KB L2 Cache 6MB L3 Cache:

http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/ite...

sony Black 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 12X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 12X DVD-RAM 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 32X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM 2MB Cache SATA 24X DVD Writer LightScribe Support:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Rosewill CRUISER Black Gaming ATX Mid Tower Computer Case with Side Panel Window:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mushkin Enhanced Silverline 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAIDMAX HYBRID 2 RX-730SS 730W ATX12V V2.2/ EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready Modular Modular LED Power Supply

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

IDE to Sata adapter (so i can still get my old files off of my old computer) (as long as the old and new both have win xp)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

my final question:

how do these posted specs (i'm not worried about the speakers/keyboard/mouse now) compare to the one i posted in my first message (the pre-built) computer

the price is lower for the (links i posted) I just want to make sure at last lol.

Thank you all for your help
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October 29, 2010 8:47:21 PM

Custom = Save money and do it your self and learn and have fun.
Pre-build = Pay for overpriced parts and have them do it and have chances of knowing they didn't do it right.
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October 29, 2010 9:00:11 PM

both builds are pretty similar. only very minor differences.
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October 29, 2010 11:42:59 PM

cool, so i'll go with the cheaper option..thanks everyone for the help.
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October 29, 2010 11:43:41 PM

Best answer selected by jomyron.
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November 11, 2010 5:59:07 AM

delete this particular message please since i don't have the option to
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