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Friend wants a new rig, need help with a PSU and overall build

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October 29, 2010 1:14:22 AM

Hey guys, so my friend is gonna be getting a custom build

A lot of the parts we have picked are FINAL and not due to change, but some are

Case - NZXT Lexa S
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Mobo - Gigabyte GA-P55-USB3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CPU - Intel i5-750 Lynnfield @ 2.66 GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

RAM - G.Skill Ripjaws 2 x 2GB DDR3 @ 1333 MHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

GPU - XFX Radeon HD 5770 (Juniper XT)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

HDD - Samsung Spinpoint F3 1TB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

CD Drive - LG GH24NS50 DVD Burner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Ok, so the CASE, HDD, RAM, and CPU are FINAL, we do not want any changes to those

We need a recommendation for a PSU

We would like to be modular and maybe semi-modular

We prefer Corsair, XFX, and Antec in that order

For the CD Drive, you may suggest another CD Drive, we wanna keep this as cheap as possible and we do not need a Blu-Ray or anything, just a standard DVD Burner

The GPU is a 5770 and the cheapest Juniper XT variant from a trusted brand, we MAY step it up if it's not too much more expensive

I'm pretty sure the mobo is real good, if there's a cheaper variant that'll support the video card then sure, we trust Gigabyte so yeah

We will be getting all parts from Newegg, all your help is appreciated greatly guys :) 

You may suggest things even if they're final, we'd still like to learn, but the final things are basically.. FINAL XD

Sorry for saying final so much :p 

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October 29, 2010 2:38:13 AM

I said the CPU is final so we're not going with an AMD mobo or CPU for sure

You're recommending a 750W when Im PREEEEETY sure we can do with a 600-650W

The case is final, we wont really be touching it, and we have cloths :p 
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October 29, 2010 2:50:23 AM

Hello.

Are you looking to Crossfire? If so you should look at a different board, that board only supports x16/x4 Crossfire. This is a bottleneck to a 5770. Heres a little guide on it:
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.hardware-revo...

I agree with Mr Pizza on the Phenom II X4. The i5 750 is quite high end and in gaming you will only see a performance increase over the Phenom running around 2 5870s. If your doing some CPU intensive stuff the i5 may be better and maybe this is why you chose it? Though if your only gaming a 955 will be better or if your an intel fanboy an i3 530.

With the Phenom II you will save some money where you could put into a better graphics card.

Mr Pizzas choice of a 750W is overkill, if your running Crossfire 5770s you will need a max of 600W.

You could look for some combos to save money. Hope that helps.

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Calm down Reaper he was just helping yet your sounding like a 13 year old boy.
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October 29, 2010 3:01:47 AM

Wolygon said:
Hello.

Are you looking to Crossfire? If so you should look at a different board, that board only supports x16/x4 Crossfire. This is a bottleneck to a 5770. Heres a little guide on it:
http://www.google.com.au/url?q=http://www.hardware-revo...

I agree with Mr Pizza on the Phenom II X4. The i5 750 is quite high end and in gaming you will only see a performance increase over the Phenom running around 2 5870s. If your doing some CPU intensive stuff the i5 may be better and maybe this is why you chose it? Though if your only gaming a 955 will be better or if your an intel fanboy an i3 530.

With the Phenom II you will save some money where you could put into a better graphics card.

Mr Pizzas choice of a 750W is overkill, if your running Crossfire 5770s you will need a max of 600W.

You could look for some combos to save money. Hope that helps.

[EDIT]
Calm down Reaper he was just helping yet your sounding like a 13 year old boy.


No we are not looking to crossfire, this is a budget kinda PC but we wanna stay away from AMD

Mind suggesting some semi or fully modular PSUs thatll serve our purposes?

We checked the combos, none that will fit what we want

and why are you insulting me, I said the CPU is final, I'm not saying why did you suggest it or something, I'm calm...
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October 29, 2010 8:50:41 AM

If you want to stay away from AMD (fanboy) then your best bet is an i3 530. This will save you a ton of money yet you will not suffer at all in gaming performance. You didn't tell be if your going to be doing lots CPU intensive stuff like video editing/encoding, 3d rendering, etc. If you are then you might need a bit more grunt (depending how often it is done) and the i5 wouldn't be a waste of money. If your only doing occasional CPU intensive tasks then the i3 would be fine also, it is faster then the i5 as it is basically an i7 chopped in half.

Are you sure you really want to go modular? It will cost you a fair amount and generally you can hide your cables quite well. For a Corsair brand you'll be looking at around $100 as you have to get a PSU that is overkill. Most modular PSUs are in the 500W+ range so budget ones are not really available. Though there is a special on the OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W for $45. This is a nice PSU and got ranked #2 which means:

"*Rank 1 never has more than 5 units in a given power range, and is the best.
*Rank 2 has PSUs that are almost as good as those in rank 1. Maybe they were bumped out of rank one, or maybe they were placed there because of similarities to former rank 1 units.
*Rank 3 has PSUs that are good, passing all tests, but not remarkable, or with minor flaws. "

If you don't want to get it because of its brand then that is very stupid. Your preferences for PSU brands are flawed, Antec is generally better then XFX. Seasonic is up there with Corsair, as seasonic builds many of Corsairs PSUs. Taking brand preference is stupid considering many companies make a few good PSUs but a few badish ones. Heres the PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

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That PSU is "hybrid" modular. I don't know anything about modular so I don't know what that means.
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October 29, 2010 11:17:08 AM

Wolygon said:
If you want to stay away from AMD (fanboy) then your best bet is an i3 530. This will save you a ton of money yet you will not suffer at all in gaming performance. You didn't tell be if your going to be doing lots CPU intensive stuff like video editing/encoding, 3d rendering, etc. If you are then you might need a bit more grunt (depending how often it is done) and the i5 wouldn't be a waste of money. If your only doing occasional CPU intensive tasks then the i3 would be fine also, it is faster then the i5 as it is basically an i7 chopped in half.

Are you sure you really want to go modular? It will cost you a fair amount and generally you can hide your cables quite well. For a Corsair brand you'll be looking at around $100 as you have to get a PSU that is overkill. Most modular PSUs are in the 500W+ range so budget ones are not really available. Though there is a special on the OCZ ModXStream Pro OCZ500MXSP 500W for $45. This is a nice PSU and got ranked #2 which means:

"*Rank 1 never has more than 5 units in a given power range, and is the best.
*Rank 2 has PSUs that are almost as good as those in rank 1. Maybe they were bumped out of rank one, or maybe they were placed there because of similarities to former rank 1 units.
*Rank 3 has PSUs that are good, passing all tests, but not remarkable, or with minor flaws. "

If you don't want to get it because of its brand then that is very stupid. Your preferences for PSU brands are flawed, Antec is generally better then XFX. Seasonic is up there with Corsair, as seasonic builds many of Corsairs PSUs. Taking brand preference is stupid considering many companies make a few good PSUs but a few badish ones. Heres the PSU:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

[EDIT]
That PSU is "hybrid" modular. I don't know anything about modular so I don't know what that means.


Hybrid meaning semi-modular, and I dont need further help from you, you're obviously more interested in calling people names rather than just helping out.
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October 29, 2010 11:42:12 AM

Best answer selected by Reaper2794.
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October 29, 2010 2:45:32 PM

You are ignorant and ungrateful.

Firstly Pizza suggested a very valid point that an AMD build would be more suited for your application. But instead of acknowledging this you with your intel fanboyisim shot back with:
"I said the CPU is final so we're not going with an AMD mobo or CPU for sure"
Not putting any reasons forward for your unjustified decision.

Many people like to have alot of PSU room so they can upgrade completely and keep their case, HDD and PSU. Because of this they recommend large PSUs which have a lot of moving room. Is this completely unreasonable? Of course not, yet you criticized Pizza heavily for this decision.
"You're recommending a 750W when Im PREEEEETY sure we can do with a 600-650W "
Also the quality 750W XFX PSU he chose cost only $110 + $6, compared to a Corsair HX520 for $90 + $10. This PSU was probably the best deal you could get sticking to your limited array of PSU brands. Would I go for 230W more for only $10? You bet I would.

"and why are you insulting me, I said the CPU is final, I'm not saying why did you suggest it or something, I'm calm... "
Do you know what your supposed to do when you come here? Let us leverage and convince you into getting the best value and optimized system available for your needs. But nope you seem to think its "cool" to be rock solid in your intel fanboyness and then sook when people suggest more appropriate CPUs which would give you a better system.

Now getting on to my well thought out and researched post that I did for you. I found you the best possible PSU available which suited you needs. Yet apparently all I did was "you're obviously more interested in calling people names". Lets see where I did this?

"If you want to stay away from AMD (fanboy) then your best bet is an i3 530."
Here I may have called you an intel fanboy but did I leave it at that and say that you must go AMD? No I did not, I talked about how the i3 would be best suited to your needs if so and so. Was I unreasonable with my presentation of the i3 as an option?

"If you don't want to get it because of its brand then that is very stupid."
This may have been somewhat harsh yet I never said you were stupid, instead I said that people who condemn a product because of its brand are stupid. If you are one of these people then you certainly are, would you prefer a crappy Antec Basiq over a nice OCZ?

"Your preferences for PSU brands are flawed, Antec is generally better then XFX. Seasonic is up there with Corsair, as seasonic builds many of Corsairs PSUs."
Here I showed some information about why picking only 3 PSU brands in not intelligent. Backing it up with logical knowledge. Why isn't Seasonic part of your PSU brands considering it is the Corsair PSUs which you seem to love?

"Taking brand preference is stupid considering many companies make a few good PSUs but a few badish ones."
Once again this was rather harsh though I did not say you were stupid and instead was just trying to discourage you from your serial fanboyisim. Even your lovely Antec makes badish PSUs so what gives?

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No one likes someone with such a foul, immature temper. I suggest you clean it up or start lurking a bit more. Atleast I've learned not to try to help an arrogant person like you. Goodbye.


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October 30, 2010 12:11:37 AM

Dude Reaper, face it you are being a huge Intel fanboy and you really should be praising Wolygon, he makes very good points. An AMD Phenom II x4 955 would be the best bet for this system. An i5 760 is a little bit overkill for this build and i really wouldn't go with an i3 because they are dual cores.

What do you have against AMD? They are a very solid company with very good Micro Processors, state your reasons a-rite?

Stop being disrespectful man.. we are helping you and this is what we get in return? Ugh..

Why would you pick a brand over performance? That is crazy.
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