Gaming Computer: Parts and compatibility advice, Questions

alpha fox

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Hey everyone. I'm building a gaming computer as well as one that will run some rendering/photoshop, etc. I just wanted to get some advice on the parts I currently am thinking about. Basically, am I spending money on parts that I just don't need, or if I need a better component than I have in place currently. So without further ado, My Build:

Case: Cooler Master Haf-932 Black

CPU: i7 950

Cooler: Corsair H70 (I don't know how much cooling I need, but this just seems to be the best option without having to go for a giant fan+ radiator, which I think look ugly)

Motherboard: Asus P6X58-E (I went for this after "downgrading" from the premium, but I am wondering between this and the sabertooth as to what features I am really loosing)

Memory: Corsair XMS 3 6gb triple channel DDR3 16000 (Any better recommendations?)

Video Card: Sapphire 6870 (Only reference cards available at the moment, should I wait for non-reference?)

Power Supply: Corsair HX 750 Watt (Is this enough power for future crossfired 6870s as well as cold cathodes if i add them?)

Hard Drive: Western Digital 7200 RPM 1TB 64MB Cache

Optical Drive: Asus Black 24x DVD/CD

Wireless Card: Intel Ultimate N 633ANHMW Mini PCI Express Ultimate N 633ANHMW Wireless Adapter (Do I have enough room to crossfire and install this wireless card? Is there a better/different wireless card you would suggest?)

This build clocks in at about $1350, just under my $1500 budget.

Build Goals:

1. a gaming computer that will run just about anything currently and in the near future (Starcraft 2, Diablo 3, Star Wars: The Old Republic)

2. Do a mild overclock, I've never overclocked anything before and I'd like to push this system as far as I can without endangering any of the components

3. A somewhat future proof system for the next 4 years or so. I plan to add another 6870 in crossfire eventually, but any other suggestions to help the system last for a while?

Thanks in advance.
 
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@alphafox for your questions,
1. I dont think you will be able to add a PCI card if going Crossfire...And it would be the same for the P6X58D-E as the graphic cards would block the 2nd PCI as well...
So going for a USB Wireless would be a good option...
As for the sound card, you can get a PCIe x1 sound card, as that slot will not be blocked when Crossfiring...
- The P6X58D-E has better overclocking potential than the Sabertooth, but it wont be advantageous if you wont overclock very high say 4GHz+ as even the Sabertooth can overclock upto that levels...
- But with the Sabertooth, you get better warranty, eSATA

2. For a mechanical drive - HDD, SATA 6 wont offer any advantage over SATA 3 as it doesnt take advantage of the extra...
Mobo - The Sabertooth actually offers eSATA, which the -E doesnt and 5 Years warranty...
IMO the Sabertooth would be a better option...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.523542

PSU - It would easily suffice, check out the XFX 750W- It offer similar performance and features and costs less...

RAM -
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145250
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820145286

HDD - The Samsung F3s offer similar performance if not better for less...

CPU Cooler - IMO H70 is not required...
These offer as good performance for overclocks upto 3.8GHz
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142

As for questions -
1. A mild overclock wont affect the life of the components if there is adequate cooling

2. A SSD would improve the performance of the PC considerably(In terms of responsiveness)
 

alpha fox

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Thanks for the advice, I have a few questions though.

1. Will the sabertooth be able to support 6870s in crossfire and a wireless PCI? In addition could I eventually add a sound card as well? Also in more layman's terms what exactly do i lose by changing from the P6X58D-e to the Sabertooth?

2. For the HDD I went with the one that was sata 6 compatible, does that matter or not. Also If I go for a small ssd what is the best way to use them?
 

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I am interest also about the difference between P6X58D-e and Sabertooth besides the small price difference. Anyone have some good info why some think the P6X58D-e is better while others like Sabertooth more?


 
@alphafox for your questions,
1. I dont think you will be able to add a PCI card if going Crossfire...And it would be the same for the P6X58D-E as the graphic cards would block the 2nd PCI as well...
So going for a USB Wireless would be a good option...
As for the sound card, you can get a PCIe x1 sound card, as that slot will not be blocked when Crossfiring...
- The P6X58D-E has better overclocking potential than the Sabertooth, but it wont be advantageous if you wont overclock very high say 4GHz+ as even the Sabertooth can overclock upto that levels...
- But with the Sabertooth, you get better warranty, eSATA

2. For a mechanical drive - HDD, SATA 6 wont offer any advantage over SATA 3 as it doesnt take advantage of the extra bandwidth the SATA 6 has to offer...
But with SSDs such as a Crucial drives, SATA 6 would be of good advantage as they utilize the extra bandwidth...

The SSDs reduce the app load times and boot times considerably...But in games, they would reduce the level load times thats all and wont have any effect on in-game performance...

CPU Cooler - If you are aiming for speeds upto 4GHz, then the coolers that I had linked above would be good enough...
Scythe Mugen Rev.B
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185142
CM Hyper 212+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103065

If you want a liquid cooler similar to the H70, then
The H50 would be better
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835181010
Or this -
http://www.frozencpu.com/products/10669/ex-wat-154/CoolIT_Systems_ECO_Advanced_Liquid_Cooler_ECO-R_Sockets_LGA_775_1156_1366_AM2_AM3.html?id=nysm7Ydu&mv_pc=2279&gclid=CK379fOvgaUCFZtp4wodYzRLOw

And if you want even better cooling performance from the above coolers, add 1 more fan in Push-pull config...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185006
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835185065
 
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