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Budget-Gamer build. Advice?

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October 29, 2010 4:48:38 AM

Firs things first:
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Approximate Purchase Date: ASAP
Budget Range: Under $800
System Usage from Most to Least Important: Gaming
Parts Not Required: Only asking about the guts here, not peripherals
Preferred Website(s) for Parts: newegg
Country of Origin: usa
Parts Preferences: Intel build.
Overclocking: Never
SLI or Crossfire: Never
Monitor Resolution: 1920x1200
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My last three PCs have been laptops due to school work. Trying to build a computer that will allow me to play most new games (New Vegas, Old Republic next year) with med to high settings.

Note, I pick cheaper parts and would be ok with upgrading in 2 - 3 years.

Since I've been out of the game for a bit... I think this will all work together, but not sure. Please advice.

CPU - Intel Core i3-540 Clarkdale 3.06GHz LGA 1156 73W

MOBO - ASUS P7P55D-E LX LGA 1156 Intel P55 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX

RAM - G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800)

VIDEO - EVGA 01G-P3-1450-TR GeForce GTS 450 (Fermi) 1GB 128-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16

HARD DRIVE - Western Digital Caviar Black WD6402AAEX 640GB 7200 RPM SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5

PSU - Antec EarthWatts EA750 750W Continuous Power ATX12V

SATA Cables x3 - OKGEAR 36" SATA 6 Gbps Cable, Straight to Straight W/Metal Latch

I also got some SATA DVD drives, keyboard, case, speakers.

Total so far is just under $800.

Questions

1) Will all this jive?

2) The i3 has video on the CPU, is that like on-board video in the sense that if I just use my mobo and my eVGA video card, it will just be disabled?

3) Will this allow me to run most new games on mid-high settings for a year or so.

4) Does it make sense to make this system, and in 2 - 3 years get another budget card and the highest i7 my mobo will take (maybe with another 4GB ram)? I figure in 2-3 years this could be a $300 upgrade that'll give the PC another 2 - 3 years of life.

5) Went with SATA 6gb HD and mobo. Getting 3gb ones would have saved a whopping like $15... is this fine?

6) The ram is 7 cas 4gb... is this a good choice for this value gaming system or are there better suggestions for price/performance?
Any other suggestions/advice?

7) Is there a cheaper ATI card that will give comparable performance to the Fermi 450?


I do think the system will run things well. Currently I am running a Core 2 Duo T5550 (@ 1.83ghz) with a GeForce 8800m GTS. I don't know much, but I hope my guess is that it'll be a big jump the the i3-540 with a FERMI GTS 450. Thoughts?
October 29, 2010 5:16:01 AM

^ You should consider the AMD CPU if doing a gaming build IMO...
Here is a setup...
X4 955 + ASUS 870A - You get a true Quad...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

NZXT M59 + Corsair 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OCZ 600W + DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Samsung F3 1TB - These are as fast if not better...
$15 off w/ promo code EMCZYNW52, limited offer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card - For that resolution and also going with a single video card, then this -
HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - ~$704 | ~$669 After rebates...
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October 29, 2010 5:26:47 AM

gkay09 said:
^ You should consider the AMD CPU if doing a gaming build IMO...
Here is a setup...
X4 955 + ASUS 870A - You get a true Quad...
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

NZXT M59 + Corsair 4GB DDR3
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

OCZ 600W + DVD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?Ite...

Samsung F3 1TB - These are as fast if not better...
$15 off w/ promo code EMCZYNW52, limited offer
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Video card - For that resolution and also going with a single video card, then this -
HD 6870
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E168...

Total - ~$704 | ~$669 After rebates...


Can I ask, what about the future with your build, gkay?

When I can only run new games on the lowest setting, does your build (today) have lots of room to grow?

With my build, the CPU could go to at least (assuming no new 1156s come out) to a i7-875K Lynnfield 2.93GHz LGA 1156 Unlocked which is a wicked fast processor. When that CPU drops to $110 (used or new) adding another 4GB Ram and another a $150 GPU in the future... I think the system will be kicking again. That's kind of why I went a little more on PSU and MOBO.. you think this is a silly plan?
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October 29, 2010 5:40:03 AM

^ You get the AMD's 6-Core CPUs which can be used with this board, which is also pretty fast...
And I dint get this part
"When I can only run new games on the lowest setting, does your build (today) have lots of room to grow? "
With the above build I have linked, you can play most of the current games at max settings and am sure in the future with just a GPU upgrade, it would be even better...You should know that the games still are mostly GPU dependent than CPU dependent, which will be the case for some more years...
I think you should take a look at these articles...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/upgrade-processor-q...
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October 29, 2010 5:44:19 AM

gkay09 said:
^ You get the AMD's 6-Core CPUs which can be used with this board, which is also pretty fast...
And I dint get this part
"When I can only run new games on the lowest setting, does your build (today) have lots of room to grow? "
With the above build I have linked, you can play most of the current games at max settings and am sure in the future with just a GPU upgrade, it would be even better...You should know that the games still are mostly GPU dependent than CPU dependent, which will be the case for some more years...
I think you should take a look at these articles...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/game-performance-bo...
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/upgrade-processor-q...


Thanks gkay. I'll look those over.

It's been a long time since I built an AMD system, which was my first one ever... a K6 back in like 97-98.

The price reductions for greater performance is definitely intriguing and I will have to research more now. Thanks!

Anyone else can feel free to chime in, I will be ordering before the weekend ends.
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October 29, 2010 9:25:13 PM
October 29, 2010 10:38:25 PM

About to pull the trigger, $747 w/ shipping.

Anyone care to give it a once over for compatability's sake????

Thanks!
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October 30, 2010 1:54:38 AM
October 31, 2010 12:18:25 AM

To be honest, gkay's first suggested build is much better. The only change I'd make to those suggestions is that you get a 700-850W PSU to handle CPU and GPU upgrades and OCing.

Edit: Google the longevity of AMD platforms as opposed to that of Intel platforms. I assure you that everything you find will indicate that AMD platforms last much longer and allow for more upgrades.
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October 31, 2010 12:38:52 AM

blackjellognomes said:
To be honest, gkay's first suggested build is much better. The only change I'd make to those suggestions is that you get a 700-850W PSU to handle CPU and GPU upgrades and OCing.

Edit: Google the longevity of AMD platforms as opposed to that of Intel platforms. I assure you that everything you find will indicate that AMD platforms last much longer and allow for more upgrades.



No doubt that his is better. But the second one I put together is much less money (windows, mouse, other things included). Like I said, I'd be going from a 8800m GTS and a T5550 @ 1.83 to that system. My current system plays everything on LOW right now and I'm just looking for a true budget gaming system.

I just want to know if it all is compatible.

Thanks!
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October 31, 2010 12:57:15 AM

Anyone?

About to hit order...
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October 31, 2010 1:46:43 AM

Oh, sorry for not noticing. In that case, my only suggestion is that you consider the Samsung F3 1TB. The WD does use SATA 3, but the drive can't even saturate SATA 2 transfer speeds. The F3 is a few bucks less (if you take into account the promo code for each), and, obviously, quite a bit larger.
But yes, everything is compatible.
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October 31, 2010 2:10:27 PM

blackjellognomes said:
Oh, sorry for not noticing. In that case, my only suggestion is that you consider the Samsung F3 1TB. The WD does use SATA 3, but the drive can't even saturate SATA 2 transfer speeds. The F3 is a few bucks less (if you take into account the promo code for each), and, obviously, quite a bit larger.
But yes, everything is compatible.


Cool, thansk man.

Everyone on the board seems to be raving about the Samsung F3, so I'll follow the advice.

I appreciate the help.
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