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January 25, 2011 7:15:23 AM

Hi,

Following are the configuration of My PC.

Lenovo 3000 H-Series Desktop
Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 @ 2 Ghz
4 GB DDR2 RAM (2 GB Each)
320 GB SATA Hard disk drive (180 Each)
1 DVD writer
6 USB drives
Logitech Z2300 2.1 Channel speaker system
APC Back-UPS, 600 Watts / 1000 VA,Input 230V / Output 230V,
PSU Delta Electronics 280W

Future Upgradation :

1. Auzentech Forte 7.1 Sound Card
2. Nvidia GTX 460 1 GB Graphic Card

Taking into consideration the above mentioned future upgradation I have decided to buy a Corsair VX 550W. When I discuss this PSU upgradation with one of My friend he simply gave Me one doubt which I want to clarify before I buy Corsair VX 550W. Following are My doubt of which 1st one was created by MY friend,

1. At present in my PC some Delta Electronic's 280W PSU is configured which is made in china and I never heard this company. Doubt which My friend gave was that If I upgrade it to corsair then it may impact My motherboard i.e. My motherboard should support else it will burn and may die. Requesting you all to give your valuable advise on this before I buy this PSU.

2. If above point 1 is clear and if there is no harm in upgrading then whether it will fit to My CPU or not. MY PSU case is tall and below is the snapshot of it. Please copy-paste the same so that you will get an idea. Hope corsair VX 550W psu will fit in this case easily.

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Lenovo_3000_H200/...

Hope these informations are sufficient enough to answer you all.

Thanks In Advance.

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January 25, 2011 9:27:54 AM

Wait a second...

http://www.techtree.com/India/Revi [...] 621-3.html is essentially the same as your computer? By the looks of it, it has no PCI-E slot, so the GTX460 you're after won't fit in that computer anyway, rendering this upgrade pointless, you will need a new motherboard...

Even if you do get the GTX460, your CPU will severely restrict it's performance.

That sound card also uses a PCI-E slot. I'm afraid you need to build a new computer, mate.
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January 25, 2011 11:44:58 AM

anacandor said:
Wait a second...

http://www.techtree.com/India/Revi [...] 621-3.html is essentially the same as your computer? By the looks of it, it has no PCI-E slot, so the GTX460 you're after won't fit in that computer anyway, rendering this upgrade pointless, you will need a new motherboard...

Even if you do get the GTX460, your CPU will severely restrict it's performance.

That sound card also uses a PCI-E slot. I'm afraid you need to build a new computer, mate.



Hi Anacandor,

thnaks a lot for your kind reply. The features which is given on tht site is of pentium 4 whereas Lenove used the same case for Intel Core 2 Duo as well where I am having PCIE 16X slot where 1GB NVIDIA 9400 GT is already installed but tht card is dying now and I was not aware that this card is not for games like Prince of persia, assiassin's creed etc which I m playing.

Also tried ur link but getting msg as "We're sorry, but the page you requested could not be found." Anyway the screen shot link which I gave is for your information so that u can guide Me on My doubts. So u can take a screen shot tht CPU. Lenovo used the same cpu case for Intel core 2 duo as well. so don't worry abt the PCIE and other slots bcoz all these slots r i.e. PCIE 16X and PCIE 1X slots r their.

Requesting you to advise on My doubts taking into consideration the configuration which I gave and snap shot of CPU case.

Thanks 1ce again.
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January 25, 2011 11:57:39 AM

As long as you do have a PCIE slot then you will be fine with your upgrades. ATX power supplies are universal your motherboard will not know the difference no matter what unit is in there as long as its an ATX unit you will not have a problem.
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January 25, 2011 12:08:28 PM

^ This

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Lenovo_3000_H200/...

It was the same link you posted earlier, surtitanuj, sorry.

A GTX 460 on an E4400 sounds iffy to me, but you'll definately see an improvement from your 9400GT. If you ever upgrade your CPU you should remove the bottleneck and see a nice performance gain. :) 

Good luck with it!



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January 25, 2011 12:09:34 PM

saaiello said:
As long as you do have a PCIE slot then you will be fine with your upgrades. ATX power supplies are universal your motherboard will not know the difference no matter what unit is in there as long as its an ATX unit you will not have a problem.



Hi SAAIELLO,

thnx a lot for your valuable advise :bounce:  . Does tht mean tht I can upgrade it to Corsair VX 550W and I hope it will not affect the motherboard as this dirty and crab thought given by my frnd. Also hope this will not create any problem while fitting it into My CPU. One last advise required is whether corsair VX 550W is sufficient enough for My future upgradation i.e. Nvidia 1GB 460 and auzentech forte 7.1 or I can go for other brand of psu

thnx
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January 25, 2011 12:13:44 PM

anacandor said:
^ This

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Lenovo_3000_H200/...

It was the same link you posted earlier, surtitanuj, sorry.

A GTX 460 on an E4400 sounds iffy to me, but you'll definately see an improvement from your 9400GT. If you ever upgrade your CPU you should remove the bottleneck and see a nice performance gain. :) 

Good luck with it!



Hey anacandor

thnx 1ce again. Does tht Mean I can upgrade My PSU and it will fit to My CPU case and will not create any problem for My motherboard. Also is their any problem if I install Nvidia 1 GB GTX 460 if yes, then can u suggest Me any other graphic card.

thnx
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January 25, 2011 12:14:00 PM

The VX 550 will be more the enough. And don't listen to people that talk out there (_|_) your motherboard will not know the difference like I said before now go forth and upgrade. :) 
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January 26, 2011 6:02:09 AM

You should check out a radeon 5770 It is going for $100 with rebates on newegg. Your not going to get that much more performance from the 460 due to your cpu restraints.
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January 29, 2011 1:43:19 PM

residentdean said:
You should check out a radeon 5770 It is going for $100 with rebates on newegg. Your not going to get that much more performance from the 460 due to your cpu restraints.



Hi residentdean,

Thnx 4 ur kind reply. Does tht mean 460 will create problem in future bcoz earlier I had bad experience with Nvidai 1 GB 9400 which later on I came 2 knw tht it's dumbo card and started giving problem.

Earlier I had in mind HD5770 but then I thought of increasing the budget and decided to go again for Nvidia 1GB 460. I m not biased and any company's graphic card will do for Me. For Me graphic card should last longer, durable and shold b true value for money. I play games like all series of prince of persia, assasin's creed, dragon age origin, Tortuga the two treasurer etc.

Plz guid Me on this bcoz for both company I hv selected MSI HAWK 1 GB Radeon 5770 Or Nvidia 1GB 460 taking into consideration My maximum budget of Nvidia 1GB 460. Also don't go on features given in tht link. That link was given for CPU Case only which Lenovo used for core 2 duo as well. So while reply take into consideration the configuration which I gave.

Thanks.
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January 30, 2011 7:16:26 AM

Either will be fine and work. Simply put though, you pay more for the GTX460, you get more performance. You pay a bit less for the 5770, you get a bit less performance.
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a b ) Power supply
January 30, 2011 8:20:25 PM

There is nothing wrong with a Delta OEM PSU. They are about the finest suppliers of PSUs to companies like Lenovo and Dell.
Antec uses Delta-built PSUs as well as some other companies. Like most PSUs in a pre-built computer, yours can't handle any extra load. So replace it soon.
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January 31, 2011 8:23:26 AM

That's why I said it would need to be replaced. Just because it's decent quality (for an OEM machine) doesn't mean it can power a gaming video card.

The OP was saying he had never heard of the company, so I was setting him straight. Seasonic, Delta, Channel Well Tech (CWT), these are the big quality PSU makers that supply resellers like Corsair, Antec, Silverstone, etc.
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February 2, 2011 3:29:45 PM

Hey guys,

thnx a lot 4 ur precious feedback. I m updaing My PSU's to Corsair VX 550W hope tht is sufficient enough to power Nvidia 460 1GB and auzentech forte 7.1 low profile sound card.
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a b ) Power supply
February 2, 2011 6:53:55 PM

That will be fine. It's an old design and not as good as newer PSUs, but it's a decent unit.
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February 3, 2011 7:05:39 AM

Proximon said:
That will be fine. It's an old design and not as good as newer PSUs, but it's a decent unit.



Hi Proximon,

If it is old design and not as good as newer PSUs then I don't mind buying some other PSU which is good, durable and better then this.

Requesting you to advise if any other PSU which will satisfy My further upgradation of graphic card and sound card

Thnx.
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February 3, 2011 5:43:53 PM

That would depend on what you have available in India. I have a few sites listed, if you know any better retail sites over there please let me know:

Seasonic S12II 620W
http://techshop.in/store/seasonic-620w-s12ii620-bronze-...

Here is the 520W model from Seasonic at a better price:
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=12650

This is a partly modular PSU from Antec, TP-550
http://www.shopmania.in/shopping~online-computer-cases~...

This Corsair 650HX is probably the best choice of all I could see, but the price is higher by a bit:
http://www.shopmania.in/shopping~online-computer-cases~...
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February 6, 2011 1:52:34 PM

Proximon said:
That would depend on what you have available in India. I have a few sites listed, if you know any better retail sites over there please let me know:

Seasonic S12II 620W
http://techshop.in/store/seasonic-620w-s12ii620-bronze-...

Here is the 520W model from Seasonic at a better price:
http://www.lynx-india.com/index.php?productID=12650

This is a partly modular PSU from Antec, TP-550
http://www.shopmania.in/shopping~online-computer-cases~...

This Corsair 650HX is probably the best choice of all I could see, but the price is higher by a bit:
http://www.shopmania.in/shopping~online-computer-cases~...



Hi 1ce again Proximon,

Thanks a lot for giving these nice options, I wud b buying Corsair HX 650W though it is little bit costly but still it is worth investing bcoz I m not going to upgrade it again and again. In Mumbai, India it is available for INR 7,500 equivalent to USD 167.

As you required at present I m having two sites which r specifically located in Mumbai, India

http://www.primeabgb.com

http://www.theitwares.com

But,

1 last doubt from My end, whether Corsair HX 650W will fit to My Lenovo case bcoz at present I m having PSU of Delta Electronics 280W and it's Model number is DPS-280FB A. I tried goole search to find out it's length, width and height but not able to get tht.

So request for your kind advise 1ce again on this.

Thanks A Ton In Advance. :bounce: 
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a b ) Power supply
February 6, 2011 8:18:06 PM

A bit out of time on right now but I'll have a look later. I can usually find some pictures of the inside that help me figure it out.
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February 7, 2011 6:08:32 AM

Proximon said:
A bit out of time on right now but I'll have a look later. I can usually find some pictures of the inside that help me figure it out.



Hope this will help you,

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Lenovo_3000_H200/...

http://www.techtree.com/India/Reviews/Lenovo_3000_H200/...

Note : Please don't go on the features which is mentioned on this site where they mentioned that any upgradation is not possible.
They used same CPU case for Intel Core 2 Duo as well and you can take into consideration the feature which I gave.

Thnx.
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a b ) Power supply
February 7, 2011 9:52:53 PM

That's a standard ATX PSU mount and the case depth will allow any standard length PSU. The only problem you would have is with very long PSUs, that are usually 1000W or more.
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February 8, 2011 5:46:57 AM

Proximon said:
That's a standard ATX PSU mount and the case depth will allow any standard length PSU. The only problem you would have is with very long PSUs, that are usually 1000W or more.



Hi Proximon,

Thank you so much for your kind and expert advise :D  actually I was little bit tensed :sweat:  whether corsair HX 650W will fit to it or not and if not, then it will spoil all My future upgradation.

:bounce:  Thanks 1ce again. :bounce:  and now I will buy corsair HX 650W. This is why I like Tomshardware and it's My favourite.
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February 20, 2011 8:49:14 AM

Best answer selected by surtitanuj.
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